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  • Lets clear this up Higgins never actually cheated.

    He was caught in a sting operation that was totally fixed.

    He was forced into a room in kiev with people he fault were like the Mafia and he said he would do or say anything to get out the room.


    He was cleared off all match fixing charges when the full video was seen not just the little edited bit the news of the world showed(the full unedited video was shown at tribunal but has never been released)


    His 6 month ban was for not reporting it to the snooker authorities.


    Hence why Stephen Lee who was actually fixing frames got a 12 year ban

    I dont buy it Paulie, this is obviously his get out but we will never factually know whether this is correct. Higgins got caught before he had the chance thats why they couldn't get anything to stick like Stephen Lee, thats the difference between the two.

    I used to be a Higgins fan, not so much anymore. I personally think he is as guilty as Stephen Lee , its just not proven. His version makes it seem like he was pressured, but its still not a fact.
  • Lets clear this up Higgins never actually cheated.

    He was caught in a sting operation that was totally fixed.

    He was forced into a room in kiev with people he fault were like the Mafia and he said he would do or say anything to get out the room.


    He was cleared off all match fixing charges when the full video was seen not just the little edited bit the news of the world showed(the full unedited video was shown at tribunal but has never been released)


    His 6 month ban was for not reporting it to the snooker authorities.


    Hence why Stephen Lee who was actually fixing frames got a 12 year ban

    I dont buy it Paulie, this is obviously his get out but we will never factually know whether this is correct. Higgins got caught before he had the chance thats why they couldn't get anything to stick like Stephen Lee, thats the difference between the two.

    I used to be a Higgins fan, not so much anymore. I personally think he is as guilty as Stephen Lee , its just not proven. His version makes it seem like he was pressured, but its still not a fact.
    Its not his version tho
    Read this
    http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/09/21/revealed-why-john-higgins-was-cleared-of-match-fixing-because-the-evidence-including-a-statement-from-mazher-mahmood-told-the-full-story-210901/


    The clearly state upon seeing the full unedited version its clear that higgins was just trying to get out if the room.

    We will probably never see the full version but the independent QC has seen it
  • Lets clear this up Higgins never actually cheated.

    He was caught in a sting operation that was totally fixed.

    He was forced into a room in kiev with people he fault were like the Mafia and he said he would do or say anything to get out the room.


    He was cleared off all match fixing charges when the full video was seen not just the little edited bit the news of the world showed(the full unedited video was shown at tribunal but has never been released)


    His 6 month ban was for not reporting it to the snooker authorities.


    Hence why Stephen Lee who was actually fixing frames got a 12 year ban

    I dont buy it Paulie, this is obviously his get out but we will never factually know whether this is correct. Higgins got caught before he had the chance thats why they couldn't get anything to stick like Stephen Lee, thats the difference between the two.

    I used to be a Higgins fan, not so much anymore. I personally think he is as guilty as Stephen Lee , its just not proven. His version makes it seem like he was pressured, but its still not a fact.
    Its not his version tho
    Read this
    http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/09/21/revealed-why-john-higgins-was-cleared-of-match-fixing-because-the-evidence-including-a-statement-from-mazher-mahmood-told-the-full-story-210901/


    The clearly state upon seeing the full unedited version its clear that higgins was just trying to get out if the room.

    We will probably never see the full version but the independent QC has seen it
    Thanks paul, i haven't read this before but i still dont think its conclusive either way. I remember at the time seeing bits of the video and didn't get the feeling he was under pressure or being threatened, i might google it later and see if i can watch back again. Again not saying he is guilty just the difference between him and Stephenleegate, also not sure i believe it still even with the QC investigating it.

    There is alot of corruption legally not just in sport, i have personal experience of it ( a relation ) so you cant always take things face value even if the person investigating it has no doubts.
  • Just watched the Higgins video again as it's been a while. He looks and sounds about as relaxed as you could possibly be in a meeting and doesn't appear desperate to leave.
    Was hoping for a Judd Trump victory last night but looks as though Higgins will win the tournament now, unfortunately.

  • edited May 2018
    Talal said:

    Just watched the Higgins video again as it's been a while. He looks and sounds about as relaxed as you could possibly be in a meeting and doesn't appear desperate to leave.
    Was hoping for a Judd Trump victory last night but looks as though Higgins will win the tournament now, unfortunately.

    Have you read the article.

    Video was edited by News of The World.

    The unedited version was seen by the QC and has never been released to the public, it was after seeing the unedited version that he was found not guilty of match fixing.

    IMO there is obviously something on the unedited version that News of The Workd didnt want to public to see, something that clears higgins that would have ruined there story.

    Unfortunatly now we know the video was edited watching that version proves nothing
  • Yes I've read it and I'm still not convinced. Not quite sure why the original "unedited" video was never made available to the public if it apparently proves his innocence.
  • Exactly Talal.

    if it vindicated him, why wouldn't they have got a legal judgement to make it available ?

    as far as I am concerned, he was openly discussing fixing matches, whilst smiling and laughing and no sign of duress at all.
  • Why oh why did Wilson not play the pot on the brown, thereby handing Higgins the opportunity to snooker? Put him in control of the current safety exchange now.
  • World Championship
    Semi final
    1st session
    Mid session interval

    John Higgins 3-1 Kyren Wilson
  • The reason Higgins isn't hailed as a genius is because most of his wins have been psychological triumphs in close games. His actual snooker doesn't have Ronnie's technical brilliance but he's a miserable grinding bastard who will psych you out. I hate him but he is a clutch player
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  • World Championship
    Semi final
    First session score

    John Higgins 5-3 Kyren Wilson
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    1st session
    Mid session Interval

    Barry Hawkins 3-1 Mark Williams
  • edited May 2018
    Paulie cant do update... sorry cant use template as on phone in pub playing pool

    The Welshman trails TheHawk147 5-3, set to resume at 2.30pm tomorrow
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    2nd session
    Mid session Interval

    John Higgins 7-5 Kyren Wilson
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    2nd session
    Mid session Interval

    John Higgins 7-5 Kyren Wilson

    Glad your back, sorry the update was very brief. I was out and using my phone which is temperamental (due upgrade, barely works lol)
  • Lets clear this up Higgins never actually cheated.

    He was caught in a sting operation that was totally fixed.

    He was forced into a room in kiev with people he fault were like the Mafia and he said he would do or say anything to get out the room.


    He was cleared off all match fixing charges when the full video was seen not just the little edited bit the news of the world showed(the full unedited video was shown at tribunal but has never been released)


    His 6 month ban was for not reporting it to the snooker authorities.


    Hence why Stephen Lee who was actually fixing frames got a 12 year ban

    I dont buy it Paulie, this is obviously his get out but we will never factually know whether this is correct. Higgins got caught before he had the chance thats why they couldn't get anything to stick like Stephen Lee, thats the difference between the two.

    I used to be a Higgins fan, not so much anymore. I personally think he is as guilty as Stephen Lee , its just not proven. His version makes it seem like he was pressured, but its still not a fact.
    I used to like Stephen Lee. That was before the match-fixing of course. Reading your post I wondered what he's doing nowadays and then I found this on Wiki. Quite pathetic...

    Criminal activities
    On 9 June 2014 Lee pleaded guilty to fraud at Swindon Magistrates' Court and fined £110. Lee had sold his personal snooker cue to a Facebook fan for £1,600 but when he failed to deliver the cue the fan reported the matter to the police. Lee was also ordered to repay the £1,600 cost of the cue.

    On 12 April 2018 Lee was arrested in Hong Kong following an immigration raid at a billiards hall. Lee was charged with teaching snooker without a work permit and appeared in court on April 14 where he pleaded not guilty to breaching the conditions of his tourist visa. Lee was forced to surrender his passport and has been bailed until June. If Lee is found guilty he is likely to receive a three month prison sentence.
    Wow thats awful, also didn't mind him previous. How the mighty have fallen...
  • World Championship
    Semi final
    2nd session score

    John Higgins 9-7 Kyren Wilson
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    2nd session
    Mid session Interval

    John Higgins 7-5 Kyren Wilson

    Glad your back, sorry the update was very brief. I was out and using my phone which is temperamental (due upgrade, barely works lol)
    Thats ok
    Thanks for taking over in my absence
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    2nd session
    Mid session Interval

    Barry Hawkins 6-6 Mark Williams
  • World Championship
    Semi final
    2nd session score

    Barry Hawkins 9-7 Mark Williams
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  • So halfway through the semi finals and both matches are 9-7 both been brilliant matches so far and still so hard to call a winner
  • edited May 2018
    Well what a start for Wilson.

    They always say the 3rd session is the most important in these 4 session matches.

    Kyren comes out and gets a 124
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    3rd session
    Mid session Interval

    John Higgins 11-9 Kyren Wilson
  • World Championship
    Semi final
    3rd session score

    John Higgins 13-11 Kyren Wilson
  • Two good matches, both could still go either way.
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    3rd session
    Mid session Interval

    Barry Hawkins 10-10 Mark Williams
  • World Championship
    Semi final
    3rd session score

    Barry Hawkins 13-11 Mark Williams
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    Final
    Mid session Interval

    John Higgins 15-13 Kyren Wilson

    Higgins won the first session 5-3 since then every mini session has been 2-2
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    Final session

    John Higgins 17-13 Kyren Wilson
  • World Championship
    Semi Final
    Final session
    Mid session Interval

    Barry Hawkins 14-14 Mark Williams
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