It will send a great message if we win comfortably because Tunisia are a decent side. I'd say on a par with a team like Switzerland. If we win 1-0 in a scrappy affair that will be great too. Panama will be much easier - so a win tonight and we are likely to be through much easier than is normally the case!
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
This is the kind of attitude that dooms England at major tournaments. England expects. Expects what? And why? We've seen time and again that hard working, compact teams can frustrate the more fancied sides. And we have seen England fall victim to it in just about every tournament in recent memory. It's all well and good playing the Brazils and Hollands of the world in friendlies, but that's not who England struggle against. They struggle against Slovakia and Russia and Slovenia, teams that are tough to break down, exactly like Tunisia.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
thanks for telling me how i should support my nation but trust me dooming England is the last thing i want to do i've watched them live 27 times, nothing wrong with positivity and tbh i dont fancy tunisia and i fully expect us to win 3/4-1.
im entitled to an opinion and this comment is akin to some muppet on here 2016 euros asking fans attending " dont spoil it for us watching at home ".
were expected to achieve nothing so have nothing to lose in my opinion.
1/4 finals and go home and that is progress i think and its achievable.
tunisia got to the wc topping a group of libya, dr congo and guinea and drew 2 of those matches, so fair play for getting there but do think we are better and should win.
At no point did I say you couldn't have an opinion.
I just think the idea of expecting England to turn up and beat smaller countries just because they're smaller countries is not really based on recent tournament performances. I don't see anything in the last 25 years that indicates England should be anything other than a knockout stages team at a major tournament. I'd even go one further and say when was the last time England had a good attacking performance at a tournament? It then becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy that when people put high expectations on England and then get mad when they don't meet them. I don't know if you fall in to that category, it just seems to be a common trope.
I think your second post shows more subtlety and I agree, quarter-finals would be good, a good step forward for a young team.
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
Look who you're talking to.
if you have a comment to make about me just say it instead of commenting on a post, i dont think ive ever been abusive to you despite you calling me a fucking idiot at one point.
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the usual culprits liked it, just gets on my nerves if you have something to say don't make digs have the minerals to say it, its pathetic.
Reports in Croatia claim AC Milan striker Nikola Kalinic has been kicked out of the squad in disgrace. It is suggested he refused to come on as a substitute in his team's first match of the tournament against Nigeria, blaming a back injury.
Sweden are so woeful in front goal. Both teams lack quality. Worst game I've watched so far.
Nah Nigeria v Croatia has that honour
Terrible game, least there is attacking intent in this one, that one felt as though it was at walking pace
I only saw the first 15-20 minutes of that game, but thought it looked alright.
In terms of quality I'd say Morocco vs. Iran was probably the worst, though this game will give them a run for their money I suspect. I didn't watch Serbia-Costa Rica, so can't comment on that.
It should really be stressed Sweden are not a good footballing team. They're a good defensive side. They're physical, but they're pretty awful going forward. And Korea seem to be caught in between generations. I think this might actually be the most difficult game for Sweden in a certain way because they will feel they need to go and win it, to keep the ball and attack. That does not suit them. Coming up against Mexico and Germany they'll be able to sit deep and defend with their backs against the wall as they did against Italy, something they're much more comfortable with. I actually think they could knick a result against one of those, possibly Mexico.
All-in-all, at the risk of jinxing it, am I the only one who thinks this has been a World Cup of pretty good quality thus far? The Russia game wasn't amazing but there were some moments of real quality. Peru-Denmark also not of the highest quality but it had an openness and a mental-ness to it that I really appreciated. And I think the rest pretty much speak for themselves.
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
Look who you're talking to.
if you have a comment to make about me just say it instead of commenting on a post, i dont think ive ever been abusive to you despite you calling me a fucking idiot at one point.
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the usual culprits liked it, just gets on my nerves if you have something to say don't make digs have the minerals to say it, its pathetic.
You appear to be a very angry person towards many things, calm yourself down.
A MAN has announced he will be leaving the office at lunchtime to watch the game, even though it begins at 7pm.
Tom Logan informed his boss that he will be going home at 12.30pm ‘for the match’, which she accepted until realising it would not begin for a further six hours.
Line manager Helen Archer said: “He does this every four years and I was like ‘whatever’ until I realised that this time it’s practically in Europe and on at a perfectly normal time.
“You don’t get to bugger off early just because it’s England. That’s not a thing. And he only lives five minutes away. He’s always home in time for Pointless.”
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Logan said: “I’ve only come in at all as a favour. Legally you don’t have to when there’s an England game.
“Nobody’s going to object if I have a beer at my desk, are they? It’s almost half-eleven after all.”
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
Look who you're talking to.
if you have a comment to make about me just say it instead of commenting on a post, i dont think ive ever been abusive to you despite you calling me a fucking idiot at one point.
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the usual culprits liked it, just gets on my nerves if you have something to say don't make digs have the minerals to say it, its pathetic.
You appear to be a very angry person towards many things, calm yourself down.
For thinking that England will win 3/4-1 isn’t angry and I haven’t sworn at anyone.
Think some are being a bit harsh on the ref, it was a slight touch from the Swedish player and took it the way the Korean player would have had he touched it. VAR is definitely winning me over.
Says a lot about how poor their strikers are when the CB takes it.
Remember seeing Sweden doing well in the Euro U21s a few years ago; Marcus Berg was lethal in the competition and was backed up by Toivenen with both players coming out of that Tournament with good chances of progressing.
Sadly for whatever reasons (an issue for many players) they've not progressed as much as they should have
Says a lot about how poor their strikers are when the CB takes it.
Remember seeing Sweden doing well in the Euro U21s a few years ago; Marcus Berg was lethal in the competition and was backed up by Toivenen with both players coming out of that Tournament with good chances of progressing.
Sadly for whatever reasons (an issue for many players) they've not progressed as much as they should have
Yeah same with John Guidetti who was the great young hope of Swedish football for a while. He was at Manchester City as a youngster and was highly rated until he got a weird illness that kept him out for a couple years. I remember him having a good tournament in those Euro U21s, but he's not really kicked on for Celta Vigo or Sweden.
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I just think the idea of expecting England to turn up and beat smaller countries just because they're smaller countries is not really based on recent tournament performances. I don't see anything in the last 25 years that indicates England should be anything other than a knockout stages team at a major tournament. I'd even go one further and say when was the last time England had a good attacking performance at a tournament? It then becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy that when people put high expectations on England and then get mad when they don't meet them. I don't know if you fall in to that category, it just seems to be a common trope.
I think your second post shows more subtlety and I agree, quarter-finals would be good, a good step forward for a young team.
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the usual culprits liked it, just gets on my nerves if you have something to say don't make digs have the minerals to say it, its pathetic.
Reports in Croatia claim AC Milan striker Nikola Kalinic has been kicked out of the squad in disgrace. It is suggested he refused to come on as a substitute in his team's first match of the tournament against Nigeria, blaming a back injury.
Definitely no penalty its always going to be impossible for there to be zero contact on a player once the ball has been won
Terrible game, least there is attacking intent in this one, that one felt as though it was at walking pace
Toivonen is absolute shite. 0 goals for Sunderland then 7 goals in 2 seasons in the French league.
How can you be the starting striker for a country in a world cup with 7 goals in 3 seasons?!
And yes i fully expect he'll score in the second half now!
In terms of quality I'd say Morocco vs. Iran was probably the worst, though this game will give them a run for their money I suspect. I didn't watch Serbia-Costa Rica, so can't comment on that.
It should really be stressed Sweden are not a good footballing team. They're a good defensive side. They're physical, but they're pretty awful going forward. And Korea seem to be caught in between generations. I think this might actually be the most difficult game for Sweden in a certain way because they will feel they need to go and win it, to keep the ball and attack. That does not suit them. Coming up against Mexico and Germany they'll be able to sit deep and defend with their backs against the wall as they did against Italy, something they're much more comfortable with. I actually think they could knick a result against one of those, possibly Mexico.
All-in-all, at the risk of jinxing it, am I the only one who thinks this has been a World Cup of pretty good quality thus far? The Russia game wasn't amazing but there were some moments of real quality. Peru-Denmark also not of the highest quality but it had an openness and a mental-ness to it that I really appreciated. And I think the rest pretty much speak for themselves.
Tom Logan informed his boss that he will be going home at 12.30pm ‘for the match’, which she accepted until realising it would not begin for a further six hours.
Line manager Helen Archer said: “He does this every four years and I was like ‘whatever’ until I realised that this time it’s practically in Europe and on at a perfectly normal time.
“You don’t get to bugger off early just because it’s England. That’s not a thing. And he only lives five minutes away. He’s always home in time for Pointless.”
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Logan said: “I’ve only come in at all as a favour. Legally you don’t have to when there’s an England game.
“Nobody’s going to object if I have a beer at my desk, are they? It’s almost half-eleven after all.”
He added: “I don’t even like football.”
Blatant penalty
You dont need VAR to know its a pen
Saw that rising higher than Bailey's penalty before it was taken
It would have been awkward if the referee after reviewing the TV footage HADN'T given it, as South Korea were on a good attack when play was stopped.
Sadly for whatever reasons (an issue for many players) they've not progressed as much as they should have