imagine you bought tickets to the game, turn up and get told that they decided an hour before kick off that the match would be played behind closed doors. I'd be pretty annoyed.
imagine you bought tickets to the game, turn up and get told that they decided an hour before kick off that the match would be played behind closed doors. I'd be pretty annoyed.
As it was played in a 4,000 seater stadium in Austria, i cant imagine there will be many that upset by it.
Edit: Looking at reports i dont even think it was advertised as being on sale. FIFA might not even register it as a full international.
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
This is the kind of attitude that dooms England at major tournaments. England expects. Expects what? And why? We've seen time and again that hard working, compact teams can frustrate the more fancied sides. And we have seen England fall victim to it in just about every tournament in recent memory. It's all well and good playing the Brazils and Hollands of the world in friendlies, but that's not who England struggle against. They struggle against Slovakia and Russia and Slovenia, teams that are tough to break down, exactly like Tunisia.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
Yep, discounting the fact that it's England in tournament football, this tournament has stung a few of the top teams already... Wouldn't be surprised if England are the latest team to huff and puff and struggle to break their opponent down.
With 25 minutes to go, Neymar was struggling and should’ve came off bringing on Douglas Costa and Firmino, keeping on Jesus. I thought he took far too long on the ball and was not fit enough tonight. But I assume the pressure for their golden boy to play was too great, so had to play him the full 90.
Agree, thought he looked largely poor and off the pace. I suspect that going to PSG, and the way he is treated there, hasn't really helped him. And as you say I think there's a big question about whether or not he's fit. Switzerland did well, a lot of little niggling fouls against him, they passed him to different players, but something didn't seem right with Neymar, be it fitness or that he now just expects to turn up and be brilliant.
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
This is the kind of attitude that dooms England at major tournaments. England expects. Expects what? And why? We've seen time and again that hard working, compact teams can frustrate the more fancied sides. And we have seen England fall victim to it in just about every tournament in recent memory. It's all well and good playing the Brazils and Hollands of the world in friendlies, but that's not who England struggle against. They struggle against Slovakia and Russia and Slovenia, teams that are tough to break down, exactly like Tunisia.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
I understand where you are coming from but as a fan of any team, including club side I might add, you have to show some ambition and have the attitude that you can beat anyone - I also don't think it's an attitude exclusive to England, Argie fans will think they should be beating Iceland by 3 or 4, Germans will have expected to beat Mexico and Brazil fans will have expected 4 or 5 against Switzerland. I'll be happy to take a 1-0 win but just think if we won this game 3 or 4 nil it will send a huge message to the other teams in the tournament, as it stands of the favourites so far France are the ONLY team to even get a win. Wouldn't it be nice if we were comfortably through after 2 games and can rest a player or two for the third whilst the other teams are stressing and scraping through by the skin of their teeth - just for a change!
First time Neymar has played a full game since 17th February, so he's bound to be a bit rusty. Although he did score 2 great goals in their friendlies last week.
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
This is the kind of attitude that dooms England at major tournaments. England expects. Expects what? And why? We've seen time and again that hard working, compact teams can frustrate the more fancied sides. And we have seen England fall victim to it in just about every tournament in recent memory. It's all well and good playing the Brazils and Hollands of the world in friendlies, but that's not who England struggle against. They struggle against Slovakia and Russia and Slovenia, teams that are tough to break down, exactly like Tunisia.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
I understand where you are coming from but as a fan of any team, including club side I might add, you have to show some ambition and have the attitude that you can beat anyone - I also don't think it's an attitude exclusive to England, Argie fans will think they should be beating Iceland by 3 or 4, Germans will have expected to beat Mexico and Brazil fans will have expected 4 or 5 against Switzerland. I'll be happy to take a 1-0 win but just think if we won this game 3 or 4 nil it will send a huge message to the other teams in the tournament, as it stands of the favourites so far France are the ONLY team to even get a win. Wouldn't it be nice if we were comfortably through after 2 games and can rest a player or two for the third whilst the other teams are stressing and scraping through by the skin of their teeth - just for a change!
I get that, and I think there's a really big difference between hope and expectation when it comes to England. And what you're talking about is hope, which I totally get, but I don't think that's what was being talked about previously.
Also, there is a big difference between England and Germany, (the World Cup holders), Argentina, (World Cup runners and up x2 Copa America runners up), and Brazil, (Brazil) in that they are better teams with significantly better players. And perhaps most importantly, they have all performed at major tournaments in recent years. Yes the 7-1 loss to Germany was humiliating, but it was in the semi-final. England have only once been to a semi-final when not on home soil.
the number of teams that always start slow in tournament football and have started slow this year is always incredible.
opening games are notoriously cagey and cautious. In an ideal world you want to face a team that no matter how resilient they are, you'll still beat them (panama is perhaps an example)
Coming up against a team that are no pushovers and will be hard to break down in Tunisia, I feel if it was the 2nd or 3rd group game I'd be confident in a 2 or 3 nil win. But the opening game, I'll take a 1-0 or 2-1 no problem.
The one real bright spot of the US coverage (which has largely been awful) is having Guus Hiddink in the studio. He speaks very intelligently about football, and also, he's managed bloody everybody, so it's a lovely little trip around the world with him.
The one real bright spot of the US coverage (which has largely been awful) is having Guus Hiddink in the studio. He speaks very intelligently about football, and also, he's managed bloody everybody, so it's a lovely little trip around the world with him.
He has getting close to managing more teams and national teams than Steve Claridge played for(and thats saying something
if we cant beat tunisia then may aswell give up now, im expecting a big win tonight and to comfotably beat panama i would even consider resting some players against belgium as hopefully the belgians dont fuck us over for once and win both there games then we will both be qualified going into the last game.
This is the kind of attitude that dooms England at major tournaments. England expects. Expects what? And why? We've seen time and again that hard working, compact teams can frustrate the more fancied sides. And we have seen England fall victim to it in just about every tournament in recent memory. It's all well and good playing the Brazils and Hollands of the world in friendlies, but that's not who England struggle against. They struggle against Slovakia and Russia and Slovenia, teams that are tough to break down, exactly like Tunisia.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
thanks for telling me how i should support my nation but trust me dooming England is the last thing i want to do i've watched them live 27 times, nothing wrong with positivity and tbh i dont fancy tunisia and i fully expect us to win 3/4-1.
im entitled to an opinion and this comment is akin to some muppet on here 2016 euros asking fans attending " dont spoil it for us watching at home ".
were expected to achieve nothing so have nothing to lose in my opinion.
1/4 finals and go home and that is progress i think and its achievable.
tunisia got to the wc topping a group of libya, dr congo and guinea and drew 2 of those matches, so fair play for getting there but do think we are better and should win.
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
freindlies dont mean a lot though imo, a win is a win we should be beating them.
The one real bright spot of the US coverage (which has largely been awful) is having Guus Hiddink in the studio. He speaks very intelligently about football, and also, he's managed bloody everybody, so it's a lovely little trip around the world with him.
He has getting close to managing more teams and national teams than Steve Claridge played for(and thats saying something
Just checked Hiddink has had 15 spells as manager(some he obviously managed more than once, thats why I have said spells) Claridge has had 30 as a player
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
freindlies dont mean a lot though imo, a win is a win we should be beating them.
You might have a point but they cannot be completely discounted either. Besides, that's what people told me when I said I didn't fancy the Germans after Austria and Saudi Arabia.
I think there is definately stuff you can learn about a team from a friendly, but the friendly a week before the world cup starts? No way - players trying to avoid injury, managers will be trying different line ups and formations. Plus no friendly will ever equal the adrenaline and pressure involved in a world cup game.
Think you're massively underestimating Tunisia. Yes we should win but 3 or 4-1 is unlikely in any World Cup match, let alone England against a team that Spain took 84 minutes to break down the other week.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.
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Edit: Looking at reports i dont even think it was advertised as being on sale. FIFA might not even register it as a full international.
England look a decent side with a good young manager who are the third youngest at the tournament. But how many times have we seen England teams turn up and forget how to control a ball at a major tournament? You would think after Iceland, and just as much after some of the performances in the group at the Euros, this "we'll steamroll all the small teams" would stop.
Also, there is a big difference between England and Germany, (the World Cup holders), Argentina, (World Cup runners and up x2 Copa America runners up), and Brazil, (Brazil) in that they are better teams with significantly better players. And perhaps most importantly, they have all performed at major tournaments in recent years. Yes the 7-1 loss to Germany was humiliating, but it was in the semi-final. England have only once been to a semi-final when not on home soil.
opening games are notoriously cagey and cautious. In an ideal world you want to face a team that no matter how resilient they are, you'll still beat them (panama is perhaps an example)
Coming up against a team that are no pushovers and will be hard to break down in Tunisia, I feel if it was the 2nd or 3rd group game I'd be confident in a 2 or 3 nil win. But the opening game, I'll take a 1-0 or 2-1 no problem.
im entitled to an opinion and this comment is akin to some muppet on here 2016 euros asking fans attending " dont spoil it for us watching at home ".
were expected to achieve nothing so have nothing to lose in my opinion.
1/4 finals and go home and that is progress i think and its achievable.
tunisia got to the wc topping a group of libya, dr congo and guinea and drew 2 of those matches, so fair play for getting there but do think we are better and should win.
I just hope people don't start turning on the team after 45 minutes and it's still 0-0.