The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Hacking Wikipedia?
It's not big and it's not clever.
Why do people do it?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44668572
Gove rips up Teresa May's preferred customs union option.
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What if morons realised that when the UK was in the EU the UK governed itself?
What if morons realised that the UK democratically participated in democratic decisions made by the EU as a whole?
What if morons realised that the UK in leaving the EU, re-establishes permanent rule by the established ruling class and select media, something that being in the EU gave people hope they could escape from?
What if morons accept they won, and it is their responsibility now to manage the situation, like solving the Irish Border problem, without looking for anybody to blame but themselves?
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I'll just add fundamentally historically inaccurate to go with @cabbles' deluded ramblings.smudge7946 said:
Why does it?cabbles said:
The EU aren’t about to declare war on us. Everything about this post screams deluded ramblings imosmudge7946 said:What if............?
What if in 1939 a referendum were held as to whether we should surrender to Nazi Germany rather than fight to liberate Europe ?
What if a British PM had said that in the Reich we would be 4300 shillings better off per head ?
What if the PM had said that in exchange for surrendering the right to govern ourselves we could work anywhere in the Reich, perhaps making Panzers for deployment in the Eastern Front ? Or building the gas chambers and Camps for the Jews ?
What if the PM had said that we could travel anywhere within the Reich - No passports, cheap holidays in occupied sunny south of France and Fascist Italy, rather than Blackpool or Bournemouth ?
What if the PM had told us that Adolf Hitler would provide us with a nice cheap German car - the people's car - rather than having a British marque ? That instead of pie and mash for dinner we could have more exotic foreign food and all it would cost was our freedom ?
What if he said that hundreds of years of self-government was worth trading in for the chance to abolish exchange rates and borders within the Reich, and that we could eventually all trade using the Reichsmark instead of the pound ?
What if the PM said we would all be worse off for a generation if we did not join the Reich, as rationing would be introduced and last until 1954, and that we would have to borrow money under the Marshall Plan, a loan that would not be paid off until 2006 ?
What would the people have said ? The generation of the early 20th century ? How would they have reacted ?
This is why we voted for Brexit. Because No single generation has the right to give away the independence that their Great Grandfathers and Grandfathers and in some cases Fathers Son's Brothers, Sisters Cousins, Uncles and Aunties fought and died for.....
Because this is about more than economics ....!
3 replies and not one argument against it. Just one mild obsenity.
You do realise that, in 1939, Britain and her Empire were not seeking to liberate Europe (Poland, yes, and maybe Czechoslovakia), France was not occupied, and the UK was busy making eyes at Mussolini (in the hopes that fascist Italy would join the war on their side, only to be disappointed) - both 1940, oh, and there wasn't an Eastern front until 1941...
Because, in making these (and the Marshall Plan, and knowledge of death camps for Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, "deviants", political enemies and the disabled) key elements of a decision offered by the PM in 1939, you're not demonstrating a keen awareness of history. Of course you may just be a Neville Chamberlain super-fan, convinced that he was the genuine far sighted war leader that Britain should have had in its hour of need, cruelly traduced by that nasty Winston Churchill.3 -
Good to see you didn't waste your time at Diplomacy School.seth plum said:What if morons realised that when the UK was in the EU the UK governed itself?
What if morons realised that the UK democratically participated in democratic decisions made by the EU as a whole?
What if morons realised that the UK in leaving the EU, re-establishes permanent rule by the established ruling class and select media, something that being in the EU gave people hope they could escape from?
What if morons accept they won, and it is their responsibility now to manage the situation, like solving the Irish Border problem, without looking for anybody to blame but themselves?2 -
It was known as the 'Brick Through the Window Academy'.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Good to see you didn't waste your time at Diplomacy School.seth plum said:What if morons realised that when the UK was in the EU the UK governed itself?
What if morons realised that the UK democratically participated in democratic decisions made by the EU as a whole?
What if morons realised that the UK in leaving the EU, re-establishes permanent rule by the established ruling class and select media, something that being in the EU gave people hope they could escape from?
What if morons accept they won, and it is their responsibility now to manage the situation, like solving the Irish Border problem, without looking for anybody to blame but themselves?0 -
Send them a letter asking for your money back.seth plum said:
It was known as the 'Brick Through the Window Academy'.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Good to see you didn't waste your time at Diplomacy School.seth plum said:What if morons realised that when the UK was in the EU the UK governed itself?
What if morons realised that the UK democratically participated in democratic decisions made by the EU as a whole?
What if morons realised that the UK in leaving the EU, re-establishes permanent rule by the established ruling class and select media, something that being in the EU gave people hope they could escape from?
What if morons accept they won, and it is their responsibility now to manage the situation, like solving the Irish Border problem, without looking for anybody to blame but themselves?
Clearly the technique isn't working.1 -
Clearly it is.1
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What? In your second lesson they said 'Call anyone you disagree with a moron.seth plum said:Clearly it is.
We at Diplomacy School find its a great way to find common ground, help forge futures, change things for the better''?
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It doesn’t make any sense. You might not think it by suggesting a hypothetical what if scenario, but to me it reads like leaving the EU is similar to not surrendering to the Nazis. That in itself is ludicrous and to me deludedsmudge7946 said:
Why does it?cabbles said:
The EU aren’t about to declare war on us. Everything about this post screams deluded ramblings imosmudge7946 said:What if............?
What if in 1939 a referendum were held as to whether we should surrender to Nazi Germany rather than fight to liberate Europe ?
What if a British PM had said that in the Reich we would be 4300 shillings better off per head ?
What if the PM had said that in exchange for surrendering the right to govern ourselves we could work anywhere in the Reich, perhaps making Panzers for deployment in the Eastern Front ? Or building the gas chambers and Camps for the Jews ?
What if the PM had said that we could travel anywhere within the Reich - No passports, cheap holidays in occupied sunny south of France and Fascist Italy, rather than Blackpool or Bournemouth ?
What if the PM had told us that Adolf Hitler would provide us with a nice cheap German car - the people's car - rather than having a British marque ? That instead of pie and mash for dinner we could have more exotic foreign food and all it would cost was our freedom ?
What if he said that hundreds of years of self-government was worth trading in for the chance to abolish exchange rates and borders within the Reich, and that we could eventually all trade using the Reichsmark instead of the pound ?
What if the PM said we would all be worse off for a generation if we did not join the Reich, as rationing would be introduced and last until 1954, and that we would have to borrow money under the Marshall Plan, a loan that would not be paid off until 2006 ?
What would the people have said ? The generation of the early 20th century ? How would they have reacted ?
This is why we voted for Brexit. Because No single generation has the right to give away the independence that their Great Grandfathers and Grandfathers and in some cases Fathers Son's Brothers, Sisters Cousins, Uncles and Aunties fought and died for.....
Because this is about more than economics ....!
3 replies and not one argument against it. Just one mild obsenity.
The EU has many faults, but to draw comparisons with Nazi Germany, even though you don’t think you have, is mental0 - Sponsored links:
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Dear lord.
That ghastly Brewer lady tried to stir up trouble/humour.
Some witty responses though.
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Call those who don't bother to avail themselves of the facts, or take responsibility for their actions morons. Those I disagree with I disagree with.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
What? In your second lesson they said 'Call anyone you disagree with a moron.seth plum said:Clearly it is.
We at Diplomacy School find its a great way to find common ground, help forge futures, change things for the better''?
OK
My Diplomacy Academy was very strong on the making distinctions unit, though admittedly I only passed that one with a low 'C'.2 -
This stuff about common ground, forging things for the future, changing 'things' for the better.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
What? In your second lesson they said 'Call anyone you disagree with a moron.seth plum said:Clearly it is.
We at Diplomacy School find its a great way to find common ground, help forge futures, change things for the better''?
OK
You go first.1 -
Why?seth plum said:
This stuff about common ground, forging things for the future, changing 'things' for the better.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
What? In your second lesson they said 'Call anyone you disagree with a moron.seth plum said:Clearly it is.
We at Diplomacy School find its a great way to find common ground, help forge futures, change things for the better''?
OK
You go first.
I voted remain and don't think calling people morons achieves anything or helps in any way.
You do.
So in my world, engaging you in any conversation on this is doomed from the start.1 -
That's enough bollox for me.
I shall revisit thread in September1 -
Doubt May and her incompetent cronies will be anywhere nearer a coherent Brexit strategy.blackpool72 said:That's enough bollox for me.
I shall revisit thread in September2 -
That's better.NornIrishAddick said:
I'll just add fundamentally historically inaccurate to go with @cabbles' deluded ramblings.smudge7946 said:
Why does it?cabbles said:
The EU aren’t about to declare war on us. Everything about this post screams deluded ramblings imosmudge7946 said:What if............?
What if in 1939 a referendum were held as to whether we should surrender to Nazi Germany rather than fight to liberate Europe ?
What if a British PM had said that in the Reich we would be 4300 shillings better off per head ?
What if the PM had said that in exchange for surrendering the right to govern ourselves we could work anywhere in the Reich, perhaps making Panzers for deployment in the Eastern Front ? Or building the gas chambers and Camps for the Jews ?
What if the PM had said that we could travel anywhere within the Reich - No passports, cheap holidays in occupied sunny south of France and Fascist Italy, rather than Blackpool or Bournemouth ?
What if the PM had told us that Adolf Hitler would provide us with a nice cheap German car - the people's car - rather than having a British marque ? That instead of pie and mash for dinner we could have more exotic foreign food and all it would cost was our freedom ?
What if he said that hundreds of years of self-government was worth trading in for the chance to abolish exchange rates and borders within the Reich, and that we could eventually all trade using the Reichsmark instead of the pound ?
What if the PM said we would all be worse off for a generation if we did not join the Reich, as rationing would be introduced and last until 1954, and that we would have to borrow money under the Marshall Plan, a loan that would not be paid off until 2006 ?
What would the people have said ? The generation of the early 20th century ? How would they have reacted ?
This is why we voted for Brexit. Because No single generation has the right to give away the independence that their Great Grandfathers and Grandfathers and in some cases Fathers Son's Brothers, Sisters Cousins, Uncles and Aunties fought and died for.....
Because this is about more than economics ....!
3 replies and not one argument against it. Just one mild obsenity.
You do realise that, in 1939, Britain and her Empire were not seeking to liberate Europe (Poland, yes, and maybe Czechoslovakia), France was not occupied, and the UK was busy making eyes at Mussolini (in the hopes that fascist Italy would join the war on their side, only to be disappointed) - both 1940, oh, and there wasn't an Eastern front until 1941...
Because, in making these (and the Marshall Plan, and knowledge of death camps for Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, "deviants", political enemies and the disabled) key elements of a decision offered by the PM in 1939, you're not demonstrating a keen awareness of history. Of course you may just be a Neville Chamberlain super-fan, convinced that he was the genuine far sighted war leader that Britain should have had in its hour of need, cruelly traduced by that nasty Winston Churchill.
Although this dues devalue the sacrificed made by our previous generation
You have shown that it is possible to argue without being rude. Thank you.
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You May well be correct.harveys_gardener said:
Doubt May and her incompetent cronies will be anywhere nearer a coherent Brexit strategy.blackpool72 said:That's enough bollox for me.
I shall revisit thread in September
May and her remaining mate's have absolutely no idea.0 -
Fine. I don't think equating the EU to the Third Reich achieves anything or helps in any way.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Why?seth plum said:
This stuff about common ground, forging things for the future, changing 'things' for the better.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
What? In your second lesson they said 'Call anyone you disagree with a moron.seth plum said:Clearly it is.
We at Diplomacy School find its a great way to find common ground, help forge futures, change things for the better''?
OK
You go first.
I voted remain and don't think calling people morons achieves anything or helps in any way.
You do.
So in my world, engaging you in any conversation on this is doomed from the start.
Your response to that kind of thing is your response. Mine is mine.
I won't lecture you about it.
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See you in September0
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blackpool72 said:
That's enough bollox for me.
I shall revisit thread in September
That was quickblackpool72 said:
You May well be correct.harveys_gardener said:
Doubt May and her incompetent cronies will be anywhere nearer a coherent Brexit strategy.blackpool72 said:That's enough bollox for me.
I shall revisit thread in September
May and her remaining mate's have absolutely no idea.
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Bloody EU. What have they ever done for us?
https://bbc.co.uk/news/business-44659499
Have mentioned this piece of law before as it's a perfect example of UK consumers benefiting from EU agreed laws that we wouldn't be able to achieve domestically. This sort of thing is really what the EU is all about. Others will see it as unnecessary "red tape" and a burden on business of course...1 -
This would be one of the two options that the government has been wasting our time on that the EU has already said is very unlikely to fly of course. Tbf I expect Barnier et al will also end up tearing it to pieces too.McBobbin said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44668572
Gove rips up Teresa May's preferred customs union option.
The thunderbird-faced, two Bob fanny1 -
It appears John Bolton has been meeting with Moggy's misfits this week without May's knowledge or anyone from the government or civil service present. Trump rumoured to be doing the same when we have the pleasure of his company next week.
But it's the Remainers who are undermining May and our negotiations of course...0 -
It’s really quite shocking.Bournemouth Addick said:It appears John Bolton has been meeting with Moggy's misfits this week without May's knowledge or anyone from the government or civil service present. Trump rumoured to be doing the same when we have the pleasure of his company next week.
But it's the Remainers who are undermining May and our negotiations of course...
May is too weak to be able to do anything.
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Do you think he was the only English football fan hoping that we lost to Belgium and secured a better knock out draw?Southbank said:1 -
So what?Southbank said:2 -
Pretty pathetic.Southbank said:
Any comment on the European Research* Group meeting with a representative of the USA behind Mays back? I wonder what he's promised them for pushing for the hardest of Brexits?
*not sure how much reearching they ever do either.2
