The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Inside the American Embassy on Channel 4aliwibble said:@ThreadKiller where's that from?
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Thanks. Will add to my list of stuff to watch once the World Cup's over.1
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So that's 2% less than fell for the lies two years ago then. Things are going in the right direction.Southbank said:From Guardian today
'Half of voters believe there will be a “Brexit dividend” that could contribute at least something towards an NHS funding boost, the poll suggests.'
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It would be interesting to know where they think the additional civil servants employed solely on Brexit related work are going to be funded from.Southbank said:From Guardian today
'Half of voters believe there will be a “Brexit dividend” that could contribute at least something towards an NHS funding boost, the poll suggests.'
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Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.3 -
No nerd for me to give them a lift to the airport then... See money saved already.Chizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.1 -
Give who a lift to the airport? All the British workers who've lost their jobs to be replaced by Dutch workers in Amsterdam. Or maybe all the public sector workers who's jobs will be cut as business rates and income tax revenues decline due to jobs being relocated out of the country.Chippycafc said:
No nerd for me to give them a lift to the airport then... See money saved already.Chizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
You make it sound you were planning to personally deport every Jonny Foreigner from your post-brexit, pure-bred British (note: there's no such thing, we're a nation of mongrels, defined by wave after wave of immigration) utopia.1 -
No, just nerdsrandy andy said:
Give who a lift to the airport? All the British workers who've lost their jobs to be replaced by Dutch workers in Amsterdam. Or maybe all the public sector workers who's jobs will be cut as business rates and income tax revenues decline due to jobs being relocated out of the country.Chippycafc said:
No nerd for me to give them a lift to the airport then... See money saved already.Chizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
You make it sound you were planning to personally deport every Jonny Foreigner from your post-brexit, pure-bred British (note: there's no such thing, we're a nation of mongrels, defined by wave after wave of immigration) utopia.6 -
Anybody who wants to leave. Do you think spending 14 billion pounds of private finance from investors on a runway when there is nobody on a plane going in and out in your real world would be done..randy andy said:
Give who a lift to the airport? All the British workers who've lost their jobs to be replaced by Dutch workers in Amsterdam. Or maybe all the public sector workers who's jobs will be cut as business rates and income tax revenues decline due to jobs being relocated out of the country.Chippycafc said:
No nerd for me to give them a lift to the airport then... See money saved already.Chizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
You make it sound you were planning to personally deport every Jonny Foreigner from your post-brexit, pure-bred British (note: there's no such thing, we're a nation of mongrels, defined by wave after wave of immigration) utopia.0 -
That's not nice calling foreigners nerds.DaveMehmet said:
No, just nerdsrandy andy said:
Give who a lift to the airport? All the British workers who've lost their jobs to be replaced by Dutch workers in Amsterdam. Or maybe all the public sector workers who's jobs will be cut as business rates and income tax revenues decline due to jobs being relocated out of the country.Chippycafc said:
No nerd for me to give them a lift to the airport then... See money saved already.Chizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
You make it sound you were planning to personally deport every Jonny Foreigner from your post-brexit, pure-bred British (note: there's no such thing, we're a nation of mongrels, defined by wave after wave of immigration) utopia.0 - Sponsored links:
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http://www.cityam.com/288201/spanish-operating-giant-vows-move-its-international-holdingChizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
Apologies for my laziness...but assume your referring to this article.....where it states no job losses...hmmmm...as usual some of your friends are a bit quick to dive in also...0 -
Utilising a sad tactic used by others. Where does Chizz say there would be job losses?Chippycafc said:
http://www.cityam.com/288201/spanish-operating-giant-vows-move-its-international-holdingChizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
Apologies for my laziness...but assume your referring to this article.....where it states no job losses...hmmmm...as usual some of your friends are a bit quick to dive in also...0 -
Randy did, which I assume is what was meant by 'your friends are quick to dive in'Algarveaddick said:
Utilising a sad tactic used by others. Where does Chizz say there would be job losses?Chippycafc said:
http://www.cityam.com/288201/spanish-operating-giant-vows-move-its-international-holdingChizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
Apologies for my laziness...but assume your referring to this article.....where it states no job losses...hmmmm...as usual some of your friends are a bit quick to dive in also...
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Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
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Holy SeeCordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
Mauritania
Monaco
Montenegro
Palau
Timor-Leste
Sao Tome and Principe
Serbia
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Western Sahara
We'll kick some arse in that company!!
Still, don't forget blue passports.7 -
Serbia and Montenegro are not WTO members, the link I posted explains it pretty well.bobmunro said:
Holy SeeCordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
Mauritania
Monaco
Montenegro
Palau
Timor-Leste
Sao Tome and Principe
Serbia
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Western Sahara
We'll kick some arse in that company!!
Still, don't forget blue passports.1 -
No one is saying we will trade solely under WTO rules though, are they?Cordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
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I haven't suggested there will be job losses in the UK. Although I don't know how moving an overseas HQ from the UK to another country would avoid UK-based job losses.
The company's statement (kindly linked to above) includes "there is no impact on employment, and our operations in the UK will remain unchanged." I take that to mean that the net effect on the company is that there will be no more and no fewer people employed after the business moves to Amsterdam. I do not take this to mean that there will be as many jobs in the UK as there are before the move.
(Example: company employing 100 people in Maidstone and moves to Toulouse, sacks 90 UK staff, moves ten and hires 90 French replacements. That company would be able to say "there is no impact on employment").
That's one aspect of the move. There are two others. One is the tax revenue the UK Treasury will no longer be able to claim from a UK-based, international company. They run projects at a lot of airports, not just Heathrow, but airports from Aberdeen to Southampton, and Doha to Denver. A solid, well-run British company, which will soon be a solid, well-run Dutch company, thanks to Brexit.
And the other aspect is the crushing blow to Brexiteers - or at least those who can take their head out of the sand and fingers out of their ears. Brexit has caused this successful company to exit the UK. Even if this doesn't cause UK job losses (notwithstanding the above) it will probably costing revenue to the Treasury and certainly causing embarrassment and regret to anyone who thinks Britain should be a great, international business hub.
It's not the biggest bit of news and it's not the biggest company that will leave the UK because of Brexit. But every time we look at Heathrow Airport - one of the busiest international airports in the world - with a bit of pride, that pride will be tarnished when we remember the company that owned it didn't have faith in the UK's ability to continue as a great place to be located.8 -
Yes - mine crossed with your post and using the same website I didn't read all the way down.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Serbia and Montenegro are not WTO members, the link I posted explains it pretty well.bobmunro said:
Holy SeeCordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
Mauritania
Monaco
Montenegro
Palau
Timor-Leste
Sao Tome and Principe
Serbia
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Western Sahara
We'll kick some arse in that company!!
Still, don't forget blue passports.0 - Sponsored links:
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Eventually, no of course not. But if we leave without a trade deal with the EU that also includes the EU trade deals with other non-EU countries, then from day one until we can negotiate independent trade deals there would be little alternative - or am I missing something?Stu_of_Kunming said:
No one is saying we will trade solely under WTO rules though, are they?Cordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
Any trade deals we do independently will take time, and in some cases considerable time.3 -
Apparently no-one was saying we would be leaving the Single Market. At least that's what some Brexiteers were saying.Stu_of_Kunming said:
No one is saying we will trade solely under WTO rules though, are they?Cordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
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F*** me so we will be like Mauritania, who according to that link are the only country on WTO rules (although even they aren't quite).Stu_of_Kunming said:
The article highliights this claim as well -
Recently, the pro-brexit group Leave.EU shared an image sharing a claim made by Richard Tice. “WTO rules are what most great countries trade under. If it’s good enough for Australia, America and Canada, it’s good enough for the UK”
Can anybody clever/young post the actual image ( @Stu_of_Kunming ).0 -
Well it is what will happen if we leave without a deal and some are suggesting that it is good enough.Stu_of_Kunming said:
No one is saying we will trade solely under WTO rules though, are they?Cordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
*See my request to post the Richard Tice image from the link you provided.0 -
Cordoban Addick said:
F*** me so we will be like Mauritania, who according to that link are the only country on WTO rules (although even they aren't quite).Stu_of_Kunming said:
The article highliights this claim as well -
Recently, the pro-brexit group Leave.EU shared an image sharing a claim made by Richard Tice. “WTO rules are what most great countries trade under. If it’s good enough for Australia, America and Canada, it’s good enough for the UK”
Can anybody clever/young post the actual image ( @Stu_of_Kunming ).1 -
Ta @Red_in_SE8 .Red_in_SE8 said:
I was trying to post the image direct but only seem to be able to accidentally do that!
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Then be bright enough to quote Randy...Stu_of_Kunming said:
Randy did, which I assume is what was meant by 'your friends are quick to dive in'Algarveaddick said:
Utilising a sad tactic used by others. Where does Chizz say there would be job losses?Chippycafc said:
http://www.cityam.com/288201/spanish-operating-giant-vows-move-its-international-holdingChizz said:Heathrow airport has just had the go-ahead for a massive expansion, centred round the building of a third runway. The Government - despite some of its senior members' vehement objections, apparently - has called for, and secured, Parliamentary approval for this significant piece of infrastructure funding. Because, of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be a thrusting, outward-looking trading nation once again. A £16bn shot in the arm for anyone worried that Brexit Britain is going to fall short of its proponents' expectations.
The day after the vote, Heathrow's biggest shareholder, a Spanish company, announced that it will be joining the Brexodus and moving its non-Spanish operations from the UK to Amsterdam next year.
Apologies for my laziness...but assume your referring to this article.....where it states no job losses...hmmmm...as usual some of your friends are a bit quick to dive in also...0 -
not from my shitty not so smart phone.Cordoban Addick said:
Well it is what will happen if we leave without a deal and some are suggesting that it is good enough.Stu_of_Kunming said:
No one is saying we will trade solely under WTO rules though, are they?Cordoban Addick said:Just a thought but if we leave on WTO rules is there any other country that also trades solely on WTO?
*See my request to post the Richard Tice image from the link you provided.1 -
I live a 10 minute drive from Heathrow and am out of work. Given that queues at passport control are already up to two hours, where are the job ads for employing extra post-Brexit. They need to be trained. And customs officers. Ditto at Gatwick, Stanstead, Dover, Ashford, Harwich, Fishguard etc. How long will it take to build lorry parks on the M2?3
