What about the British bid!? So much misinformation out there. Personally don't think it will happen before the start of the season.
Transfer window shuts in a few weeks, any new owner will want to time to invest, otherwise you would wait until nearer January to complete so you don't waste money covering running costs on an inherited squad
Who would a sponsor have access to at the club? CEO? There isn't one. CFO? There isn't one. RD? Unlikely. Muir? Think not. An ex-director who has been stirring on his own agenda? Surely not.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
From X "Apparently the Aussie takeover is off. They just don't have the money. Arabs now trying to buy us. Will it never end. "
X being the son of a well known ex board member...
"Ex board member" getting his info from whom? Current non-exec director? Far too much here chimes with dicky's drip fed drivel He really doesn't want CAFC to have a clean break from the (his) past, does he? Those skeletons must really be rattling
So we are back to thinking the Aussies don't have the funds? Is this based on any actual knowledge or just more supposition? There were strong rumours that the delay is now due to something historical pre-Duchatelet. This thing keeps going round in circles. I guess this time next week we might have another update given the supposed deadline of mid-July.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
Basic income He himself was a ship in Sint-Truiden and a senator for seven years. Did politics become a disappointment? "No, I'm trying to see the positive of the experience. You learn a lot, you can talk about a lot. That wealth is more important than all other forms of wealth. " Is frustration a better word? According to Duchâtelet, the tax shift comes directly from the Vivant program. Just like the tax on financial transactions. "Only the basic income is still missing. Many people are now in Silicon Valley. Richard Branson is ahead, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. But politics does not dare. " The explanation is long. He starts with the migration problem . 'The difference with fifty years ago is that migrants then found work there and thus contributed to social security. Today, 45 percent of the people are employed directly or indirectly by the government. Their taxes are therefore resources of the government itself, which contribute nothing. There are no more jobs for migrants who can bear taxes and so they have no added value economically. That sounds harsh, but in the current world of thinking of politicians and economists it is no different. Because there are no more jobs for those people, we will have to close the boundaries. ' That's how we get to the basic income, his hobbyhorse. 'If there is not enough work, you have to make sure that there is still an income. Politicians no longer have to say jobs, jobs, jobs. They have to say: income, income, income. If you continue to build social security, as the N-VA wants, people will no longer be able to shop, to football or to a restaurant. So the economy collapses. ' Use the success of the Red Devils to find Belgium again. 'With 200 euros per month up to 17 years, 550 euros for people between 18 and 25, 750 euros to 65 and 1.300 per month afterwards, you get there. That basic income is part of the current wage or the current benefit. It is therefore not on top of the current wage, as some suggest it. Social security is a house that has existed for seventy years, but is not isolated and has no double glazing yet. At most, a rear kitchen was added. You should completely break it down and build a new house: based on the basic income. ' Conservative But then there is 'the system'. "As a politician, you must have enough votes. You do not get that when you say things that upset people. (laughing) I always did that. And you certainly can not tell anything innovative, because people are essentially conservative . Take the basic income. You can not politically sell it, because it would make people independent of political service and that is the nightmare for politicians. People themselves would only realize how good it is when it is there. That is the paradox. ' 'If you do not innovate in business, you will die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. That frustrated sometimes, yes. An example: normally all those young people who are in Werchter today, should now be in Brustem near Sint-Truiden. That agreement was round, Herman Schueremans wanted that too, but the then sp.a mayor (Ludwig Vandenhove, ed.) Stopped it because he was afraid that I would be the winner there. That was fired purely for political reasons. ' If you do not innovate in business, you will die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. 'The socialists have their pawns everywhere , also at De Lijn and at Roads and Traffic. So yes, it is true that the sossen work against a lot. But the N-VA is unfortunately not the solution. Because then you will sit with obsolete combat aircraft, without social security and with a split country. What is silly. The opportunity that the success of the Red Devils offers should now be used to re-invent Belgium. Make English the official language and let everyone else speak their own language. ' Ideas are enough, but politics is a thing of the past. The question is: would a successful entrepreneur not be able to put all those ideas and energy - and perhaps his money - into an NGO? 'Most people with a large capacity that I know also have a big social side. I support a few people who are struggling . But too many people think that a rich tide can replace social security and have time to deepen their problems. That is not true. There are three projects that I fully help. One: Wikipedia. Because free dissemination of knowledge in the world is extremely important. Two: Transparency International, an organization that fights corruption. And three: BIEN, stands for Basic Income European Network. ' My added value is that I understand fairly well how the global economy works. Not many people have that. "We were home with five children," he says. "My father was a gendarmerie officer and my parents thought it was important for us to get that. My brother Alain, who died six months ago, became a gendarmerie colonel. A sister taught all her life, a brother went into private and another became a soldier. In particular, my parents felt important in the sense of responsibility. I also try to give my six children that. ' Who is 71 might think of retirement. He does not do that. 'Stopping is not as easy as an entrepreneur. My added value is that I understand fairly well how the global economy works. Not many people have that, and you can not just pass it on. ' Who 71 is, can also look back. Far even. Were his achievements and his activities, until today, at Melexis, X-FAB and in the hospitality industry around Stayen, a childhood dream? "Not at all," he says. "I wanted to play and have comrades. My only ambition was to be happy. And that is still the case. ' The coffee has become cold. Rik Van Puymbroeck ,
Comments
X being the son of a well known ex board member...
Transfer window shuts in a few weeks, any new owner will want to time to invest, otherwise you would wait until nearer January to complete so you don't waste money covering running costs on an inherited squad
After all this time.
It is all fake news.
What is the bloody hold up?
https://www.tijd.be/dossier/ontbijt/roland-duchatelet-mijn-enige-ambitie-is-gelukkig-zijn/10029285.html
We need your translation skills
Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club.
Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds.
Over to you Roland.
Far too much here chimes with dicky's drip fed drivel
He really doesn't want CAFC to have a clean break from the
(his) past, does he? Those skeletons must really be rattling
Every seller wants top dollar and every buyer wants a bargain.
Or it could be, Roland might be a tad preoccupied concentrating on his country’s excellent national team.
Or it's the director's loans?
Or it that the Aussies don't have the funds?
Which one @Davidsmith ?
No doubt that 2 of the 3 can merge into one explanation though.
Duchâtelet: 'Use success Red Devils to find Belgium again'
07 July 2018 01:05
© Debby Termonia
Calculated during the football World Cup, he builds his football empire. Because he would rather invest in social problems. Breakfast with De Tijd.
"What is a man? Yet even an evolved animal. So people make mistakes. I, like everyone else. That is why you have to shield yourself emotionally when people write or say something to hurt you. How? I wonder what their problem is. "
Breakfast with De Tijd
Sint-Truiden, 8 o'clock, in Grand Café Stayen.
With Roland Duchâtelet we talk about football, Limburg, Rock Werchter and Wikipedia.
The question was how Roland Duchâtelet (71), a successful businessman, deals with reactions to the man. For example from the supporters of football club Charlton Athletic who came to Sint-Truiden to establish a political party. They already had a name: ROT, Roland Out Today. "I have never been awake."
The past tense is appropriate, even if we are having breakfast at 8 o'clock in the morning at the Grand Café under the STVV stadium. Last week, the newspaper said Duchâtelet would sell Charlton Athletic. The deal is not round yet, but with a pistolet with egg and a slice of pineapple he says: 'Football does not suit me well. It is a separate world that is not mine. "
Football does not suit me well. It is a separate world that is not mine.
That sounds strange for someone who has been in it for more than twenty years, as a sponsor and later owner of STVV, then of Standar d, Charlton, Carl Zeiss Jena from Germany and the Spanish Alcorcón. "Today you see that there are more networks of clubs such as Manchester City, Watford and Red Bull. That is more in line with the internationalization of business. But when I did, I was crazy. Perhaps I did not make the sentence clear enough, that is possible. '
The coffee did not get a chance to get cold, so early in the conversation this already seems like the confession of a mistake. 'Gosh, I have often been mistaken in my life . That's how it goes. I started TV Local a long time ago. That was too early and I did it in the wrong market. Years later, YouTube came with the same concept. But on time. And in a much larger market. This country and our language area were too small for something that was so innovative. '
To cradle Melexis
A dribble, a piercing pass, an assist: once Duchâtelet himself played at White Star Woluwe, the flute acceleration was left in the body and head of the man who thirty years ago - together with Françoise Chombard and Rudi Dewinter - stood at the cradle of Melexis and later became politically active in Vivant and Open VLD.
He needs little to make trips. From football to economy to politics. "The Flemish government still does not realize that. It still requires companies to prepare documents in Dutch . We have a company that is quoted on the stock exchange in Paris, nobody speaks Dutch to the big shareholders, but everything has to be prepared in Dutch. That is just absurd. "
We have a company that is quoted on the stock exchange in Paris, nobody speaks Dutch to the big shareholders, but everything has to be prepared in Dutch. That is just absurd.
That indicates little vision, he thinks. Examples fly out. 'Flanders has existed for almost fifty years, but taxes are still being collected that cost more than they generate. They then created a level of government, without abolishing the provinces. Every citizen with common sense must therefore vote for the N-VA at the next provincial elections. Because she is the only party that wants to abolish the provinces. '
Except in Limburg, everyone seems to want to keep the province there. 'But Limburg is a catastrophe, ' says the man who lives half-time in Antwerp and half-time in Limburg. 'This complex (Stayen, the football stadium, with hotel and conference room, ed.) Must compete with hotels sponsored by the province of Limburg: Alden Biesen, Maasmechelen Village, C-Mine, you name it. Once I asked the governor why he was so compete with the entrepreneurs. 'Because there are not enough in Limburg like you', his answer was. Well. "
But he wants to leave those provinces. 'Of course I will vote for the provincial elections N-VA. Today you have to vote tactically. Naturally I naturally vote Open VLD. Then you would be crazy to vote for the N-VA, because then you choose the F-35 fighter planes, which would be the biggest stupidity: spend so much money on something that is totally outdated. That is the same as buying a video recorder now. Engineers who are now developing a new fighter plane would never put a human in there. I do not understand that someone who is as intelligent as Bart De Wever does not understand. "
(continued...
Basic income
He himself was a ship in Sint-Truiden and a senator for seven years. Did politics become a disappointment? "No, I'm trying to see the positive of the experience. You learn a lot, you can talk about a lot. That wealth is more important than all other forms of wealth. "
Is frustration a better word? According to Duchâtelet, the tax shift comes directly from the Vivant program. Just like the tax on financial transactions. "Only the basic income is still missing. Many people are now in Silicon Valley. Richard Branson is ahead, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. But politics does not dare. "
The explanation is long. He starts with the migration problem . 'The difference with fifty years ago is that migrants then found work there and thus contributed to social security. Today, 45 percent of the people are employed directly or indirectly by the government. Their taxes are therefore resources of the government itself, which contribute nothing. There are no more jobs for migrants who can bear taxes and so they have no added value economically. That sounds harsh, but in the current world of thinking of politicians and economists it is no different. Because there are no more jobs for those people, we will have to close the boundaries. '
That's how we get to the basic income, his hobbyhorse. 'If there is not enough work, you have to make sure that there is still an income. Politicians no longer have to say jobs, jobs, jobs. They have to say: income, income, income. If you continue to build social security, as the N-VA wants, people will no longer be able to shop, to football or to a restaurant. So the economy collapses. '
Use the success of the Red Devils to find Belgium again.
'With 200 euros per month up to 17 years, 550 euros for people between 18 and 25, 750 euros to 65 and 1.300 per month afterwards, you get there. That basic income is part of the current wage or the current benefit. It is therefore not on top of the current wage, as some suggest it. Social security is a house that has existed for seventy years, but is not isolated and has no double glazing yet. At most, a rear kitchen was added. You should completely break it down and build a new house: based on the basic income. '
Conservative
But then there is 'the system'. "As a politician, you must have enough votes. You do not get that when you say things that upset people. (laughing) I always did that. And you certainly can not tell anything innovative, because people are essentially conservative . Take the basic income. You can not politically sell it, because it would make people independent of political service and that is the nightmare for politicians. People themselves would only realize how good it is when it is there. That is the paradox. '
'If you do not innovate in business, you will die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. That frustrated sometimes, yes. An example: normally all those young people who are in Werchter today, should now be in Brustem near Sint-Truiden. That agreement was round, Herman Schueremans wanted that too, but the then sp.a mayor (Ludwig Vandenhove, ed.) Stopped it because he was afraid that I would be the winner there. That was fired purely for political reasons. '
If you do not innovate in business, you will die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive.
'The socialists have their pawns everywhere , also at De Lijn and at Roads and Traffic. So yes, it is true that the sossen work against a lot. But the N-VA is unfortunately not the solution. Because then you will sit with obsolete combat aircraft, without social security and with a split country. What is silly. The opportunity that the success of the Red Devils offers should now be used to re-invent Belgium. Make English the official language and let everyone else speak their own language. '
Ideas are enough, but politics is a thing of the past. The question is: would a successful entrepreneur not be able to put all those ideas and energy - and perhaps his money - into an NGO?
'Most people with a large capacity that I know also have a big social side. I support a few people who are struggling . But too many people think that a rich tide can replace social security and have time to deepen their problems. That is not true. There are three projects that I fully help. One: Wikipedia. Because free dissemination of knowledge in the world is extremely important. Two: Transparency International, an organization that fights corruption. And three: BIEN, stands for Basic Income European Network. '
My added value is that I understand fairly well how the global economy works. Not many people have that.
"We were home with five children," he says. "My father was a gendarmerie officer and my parents thought it was important for us to get that. My brother Alain, who died six months ago, became a gendarmerie colonel. A sister taught all her life, a brother went into private and another became a soldier. In particular, my parents felt important in the sense of responsibility. I also try to give my six children that. '
Who is 71 might think of retirement. He does not do that. 'Stopping is not as easy as an entrepreneur. My added value is that I understand fairly well how the global economy works. Not many people have that, and you can not just pass it on. '
Who 71 is, can also look back. Far even. Were his achievements and his activities, until today, at Melexis, X-FAB and in the hospitality industry around Stayen, a childhood dream? "Not at all," he says. "I wanted to play and have comrades. My only ambition was to be happy. And that is still the case. '
The coffee has become cold.
Rik Van Puymbroeck ,