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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    He's a goalscorer. Already scored 5 in the Bundesliga, playing in a new country, in a new team, probably no speaking the language etc.

    Still only 20. Think how well he could do playing regularly in a settled side.

    If he gets a chance I don't think an England cap will be far away. For me he's comfortably in that Gomez/Shelvey/Parker bracket.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    stackitsteve said:

    golfaddick said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    I disagree with that Golf, I think Lookman would be somewhere in-between the two groups.

    I'd have him a lot closer to the "successful" lot.

    Definitely.

    Am i right in thinking that he'll only be behind Parker and Defoe in terms of total transfer fees of our exports?
    We didn't get a fee for Defoe. Not directly - W Ham may have been ordered to pay us something in the end but nowhere near the £3m odd we gor for Gomez & certainly no sell-ons.
    True but I think Chris was asking about total transfer fees, including all future sales etc

    Defoe sold for a total of £44 million (roughly) throughout his career
    Yes correct, i meant fees they've gone for throughout their career.

    I'm pretty sure Defoe and Parker are the top 2. Lookman will probably beat them both though given the way transfer fees are these days.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Shelvey is the odd one out. Lookman should be classed in the Gomez/Parker bracket. Shelvey in the middle. Konsa/Poyet below
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Marco Silva has apparently said that Lookman is going no where this season

    Can see a loan deal happening somewhere in January then!!

    Good that Lookman is not leaving before Thursday's deadline - I cannot bear the thought of Duchatelet hoovering up any sell-on fee.

    Hopefully Marco Silva will give Ademola a chance, although I don't suppose he's paid Watford £40million for that winger to sit on the bench.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    I'm not sure Shelvey belongs in the same bracket as Parker and Gomez.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    Lookman will have a much better career than both Shelvey and Parker.
    Parker captained England.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    If I was Lookman I would want guarantees of game time at this point. He was a regular at arguably a better team than Everton. To sit and rot on the bench will do nothing for him at this stage now he knows what that feels like at Leipzig.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,653
    edited August 2018
    I've been impressed with how Lookman's filled out since leaving us. I remember saying that he had the upper body physique of a 14 year old schoolboy when he joined Everton but he's more like a well built middle weight now. My other criticism was that he didn't know what his best position was but from what I've seen from his time in Germany he's been successful playing in the hole behind the striker rather than deeper or out wide. All he needs now is to play for a club and manager that has faith in him and allows him to play in best position rather than somewhere that pushes out to the wing because it's the low risk/low reward option.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    He can be sold after Thursday to a team abroad
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    ross1 said:

    He can be sold after Thursday to a team abroad

    Quite right - I keep forgetting that
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    SantaClaus said:

    I've been impressed with how Lookman's filled out since leaving us. I remember saying that he had the upper body physique of a 14 year old schoolboy when he joined Everton but he's more like a well built middle weight now. My other criticism was that he didn't know what his best position was but from what I've seen from his time in Germany he's been successful playing in the hole behind the striker rather than deeper or out wide. All he needs now is to play for a club and manager that has faith in him and allows him to play in best position rather than somewhere that pushes out to the wing because it's the low risk/low reward option.

    With many clubs playing 1 lone striker in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 I'd say he's got to be one of the 2 or 3 attacking midfielders. He'd be comfortable out wide or through the middle.

    In a front 2 he could potentially play a similar role to Sterling for England, where he has the freedom to drop deep, drift wide or run in behind.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited August 2018
    Soooo Lookman isnt going anywhere yet Everton have now signed another winger in Bernard (Shakhtar) on a Free Transfer pending the medical!!

    Yet their fans come out with comments "Well if he dont wanna be here let him go", sounds more like the club dont want him if they keep signing players in his position
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,567
    SoundAsa£ said:

    Why all this interest in Lookman.....just another explayer as far as I’m concerned?
    Once they’ve gone, they’ve gone and I personally have no more interest in them than I would any player at another club.....never understood folks interest in what ex players do after they leave us.
    I suppose it’s something I learned to do as a kid many many years ago after Stuart Leary left us and countless others who’ve followed suit.....it’s the way I deal with the disappointment........I try to ignore them.
    Not criticising others here but I do find the adoration/OTT interest in explayers careers a little strange.
    Appreciate this is a football orientated site of course but over 600 posts about an explayer who likely doesn’t give a shyte about us does seem rather extraordinary to me.....how many more months/years will this go on for I wonder?
    Ah well......we’re all different I guess.

    Once they have gone they have not gone though, they could still contribute financially to the club through tjeir sell on clauses. Pope allegedly has a 20% sell on clause, maybe Lookman has similar, so a decent sale to leipzig could bring us much needed funds. Of course, those funds may never see them released to the team under this ownership.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Not in the 18 man squad away at Wolves.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    He's been stiched up again. They already bought Tozen (sp) in Jan & now spent £40m on Richarlson. I believe they bought at least one more striker/winger as well.

    best he seeks a loan deal back to Leipzig before Aug 31st.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    Think i read that he had a slight injury, but i wouldn't be surprised if Leipzig come back with a new offer for him.

    However, premier league football is a squad game these days and they have Richarlison, Bernard, Walcott and Lookman for the wide positions so he should surely get some games. Walcott did absolutely nothing yesterday and is clearly only getting a game based on his name.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    This in the Grau:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/10/marco-silva-ademola-lookman-everton

    Going to be tricky to fight for his place when not even on the bench!
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,616
    get out now mate
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Talking about him on Talksport and why Everton are holding him back by not playing him and not letting him leave.

    A caller just called up and said Lookmans attitude is disgusting and he didnt look interested when warming up against Wolves.

    Doesnt sound like Lookman to me, maybe he was told he wasnt coming on and thats why he wasnt warming up properly
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    The Red Robin said:

    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    Lookman will have a much better career than both Shelvey and Parker.
    Parker captained England.
    But not in his 20s. Parker lost his way at much the same age as Jonjo did. If Jonjo walks the walk this season I still think he will end up with more England caps over his career than Parker.

    As for Lookman if I were him i'd apply for German citizenship. And I'm only half joking.

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  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    edited August 2018
    We got £1m for Defoe at a tribunal.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    Lookman will have a much better career than both Shelvey and Parker.
    Parker captained England.
    PragueAddick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    golfaddick said:

    fwiw......

    I thought Lookman is decent but & more in the Konsa/Poyet bracket than the Gomez/Shelvey/Parker one.

    Lookman will have a much better career than both Shelvey and Parker.
    Parker captained England.
    But not in his 20s. Parker lost his way at much the same age as Jonjo did. If Jonjo walks the walk this season I still think he will end up with more England caps over his career than Parker.

    As for Lookman if I were him i'd apply for German citizenship. And I'm only half joking.

    True. Parker losing his way was his own fault though.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    paulie8290 said:

    Talking about him on Talksport and why Everton are holding him back by not playing him and not letting him leave.

    A caller just called up and said Lookmans attitude is disgusting and he didnt look interested when warming up against Wolves.

    Doesnt sound like Lookman to me, maybe he was told he wasnt coming on and thats why he wasnt warming up properly

    I dont think he was on the bench against Wolves. I dont know if all the 25 man squad sit on the"bench" nowdays in the Prem, but I dont believe he was in the 18 man playing squad & so even if he was "earming up" he weren't ever going on.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited August 2018
    golfaddick said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Talking about him on Talksport and why Everton are holding him back by not playing him and not letting him leave.

    A caller just called up and said Lookmans attitude is disgusting and he didnt look interested when warming up against Wolves.

    Doesnt sound like Lookman to me, maybe he was told he wasnt coming on and thats why he wasnt warming up properly

    I dont think he was on the bench against Wolves. I dont know if all the 25 man squad sit on the"bench" nowdays in the Prem, but I dont believe he was in the 18 man playing squad & so even if he was "earming up" he weren't ever going on.
    Haha what an idiot he was

    The bloke said that he wasnt warming up properly and was only walking and not stretching, thats why Calvert Lewin came on instead of him lol

    Looking at it I am assuming he meant Southampton not Wolves and he was on the bench for that
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Did we bother with a sell on clause?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    cafcdave123 said:

    Did we bother with a sell on clause?

    Yes, all into Duchatelet's back pocket.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    The Red Robin said:

    cafcdave123 said:

    Did we bother with a sell on clause?

    Yes, all into Duchatelet's back pocket.
    He should definitely stay and fight for his place at Everton
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379
    Here's hoping the closing of the European window will see Duchatelet call it a day.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Everton.
    Please don't sell Lookman.
    If you do, and Charlton are due a sell on bonus because you met your fee target, take a leaf from Duchatelet's book and simply refuse to pay it...he will understand.

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