It’s a Shrewsbury ban, however, their liaison officer will give info to all away ground liaison officers, and they can stop him going in if they so desire based on preventing a breach of the peace etc etc, they’ve done it to many a Charlton fan in the past
Think the bitterness towards Shrewsbury fans now is getting a bit silly end of the day they beat us - we bottled it big time. But laughing at some of there proper fans ( shirter types ) buying confetti and not being allowed it in Wembley - is quite petty I think.
Edit: whatever about silly ginger bollocks - who got a slap and quite rightly so and a few of there Herbert’s who I have given my opinion on already, but there proper fans - probably the biggest game of there lives and everything they do is copy and pasted onto the Charlton fb group, just makes us look bitter and winey imo.
Think the bitterness towards Shrewsbury fans now is getting a bit silly end of the day they beat us - we bottled it big time. But laughing at some of there proper fans ( shirter types ) buying confetti and not being allowed it in Wembley - is quite petty I think.
Why would you have to forcibly exit? Why wouldn't they let you out?
Because the police on the ground don’t have the wit or the wisdom to make decisions. Happened to us at the Rusty Toolbox a few years back. We were getting our usual battering 4-0 down and there were more people outside the stand trying to go home than in the stand (most had been trying to get out from 3 down).
I think there were still something like 20 minutes to go, but the decision had been taken in the week that Charlton fans would be held back after the game. I pointed out that if the let us up onto the platform, we’d be halfway home before the game ended.
No ability at all to see a scenario and react. Had to follow orders from “senior” officers, taken days before and who weren’t there!
Why would you have to forcibly exit? Why wouldn't they let you out?
Because the police on the ground don’t have the wit or the wisdom to make decisions. Happened to us at the Rusty Toolbox a few years back. We were getting our usual battering 4-0 down and there were more people outside the stand trying to go home than in the stand (most had been trying to get out from 3 down).
I think there were still something like 20 minutes to go, but the decision had been taken in the week that Charlton fans would be held back after the game. I pointed out that if the let us up onto the platform, we’d be halfway home before the game ended.
No ability at all to see a scenario and react. Had to follow orders from “senior” officers, taken days before and who weren’t there!
Bit weird to want to go whilst only 2-1 down at half time.
Why would you have to forcibly exit? Why wouldn't they let you out?
Because the police on the ground don’t have the wit or the wisdom to make decisions. Happened to us at the Rusty Toolbox a few years back. We were getting our usual battering 4-0 down and there were more people outside the stand trying to go home than in the stand (most had been trying to get out from 3 down).
I think there were still something like 20 minutes to go, but the decision had been taken in the week that Charlton fans would be held back after the game. I pointed out that if the let us up onto the platform, we’d be halfway home before the game ended.
No ability at all to see a scenario and react. Had to follow orders from “senior” officers, taken days before and who weren’t there!
Bit weird to want to go whilst only 2-1 down at half time.
Why would you have to forcibly exit? Why wouldn't they let you out?
Because the police on the ground don’t have the wit or the wisdom to make decisions. Happened to us at the Rusty Toolbox a few years back. We were getting our usual battering 4-0 down and there were more people outside the stand trying to go home than in the stand (most had been trying to get out from 3 down).
I think there were still something like 20 minutes to go, but the decision had been taken in the week that Charlton fans would be held back after the game. I pointed out that if the let us up onto the platform, we’d be halfway home before the game ended.
No ability at all to see a scenario and react. Had to follow orders from “senior” officers, taken days before and who weren’t there!
Bit weird to want to go whilst only 2-1 down at half time.
They were probably trying to get at the Preston fans not wanting to go home.
On a similar subject, I've seen a couple of reports that Cheshire Police are using SelectaDNA at today's game at Crewe (vs. Port Vale). I understand the "nothing to hide" argument, but marking innocent people with something that clings to their clothes and skin for months seems like overkill and doesn’t sit too comfortably with me personally.
On a similar subject, I've seen a couple of reports that Cheshire Police are using SelectaDNA at today's game at Crewe (vs. Port Vale). I understand the "nothing to hide" argument, but marking innocent people with something that clings to their clothes and skin for months seems like overkill and doesn’t sit too comfortably with me personally.
Weird! The implication being that they spray all visiting fans, but not implicitly said.
My guess is this is what the statement is intended to put across. Clearly, spraying ALL visiting fans is not going to happen. If they really intend to deploy this tool, they would only do so against people actively breaking the law.
Obviously, this wouldn't be enough to prosecuted somebody, it would require further evidence, or witnesses.
It does seem a potentially worrying development though, back to the bad old days of treating fans like animals.
On a similar subject, I've seen a couple of reports that Cheshire Police are using SelectaDNA at today's game at Crewe (vs. Port Vale). I understand the "nothing to hide" argument, but marking innocent people with something that clings to their clothes and skin for months seems like overkill and doesn’t sit too comfortably with me personally.
Weird! The implication being that they spray all visiting fans, but not implicitly said.
My guess is this is what the statement is intended to put across. Clearly, spraying ALL visiting fans is not going to happen. If they really intend to deploy this tool, they would only do so against people actively breaking the law.
Obviously, this wouldn't be enough to prosecuted somebody, it would require further evidence, or witnesses.
It does seem a potentially worrying development though, back to the bad old days of treating fans like animals.
Yeah, would be perfect if there are coppers there armed with this spray at the exact time and place it actually kicks off - which rarely happens. I reckon it’ll be used more in anti-social behavior scenarios, where fans (mainly away fans) get kettled and then some get a bit rowdy - indiscriminate spraying then to follow, just in case the coppers go kickin doors in at 5 am, in a few weeks' time.
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Thats a huge assumption!!
When and where was that?
Edit: whatever about silly ginger bollocks - who got a slap and quite rightly so and a few of there Herbert’s who I have given my opinion on already, but there proper fans - probably the biggest game of there lives and everything they do is copy and pasted onto the Charlton fb group, just makes us look bitter and winey imo.
Good thing this wasnt the Shropshire police else the Stoke fans would have been blamed for it!!
I think there were still something like 20 minutes to go, but the decision had been taken in the week that Charlton fans would be held back after the game. I pointed out that if the let us up onto the platform, we’d be halfway home before the game ended.
No ability at all to see a scenario and react. Had to follow orders from “senior” officers, taken days before and who weren’t there!
Charlton fans not the only one's to get sprayed.
https://www.silk1069.com/news/local-news/smarttag-to-be-deployed-to-deter-disorder-ahead-of-crewe-alexandra-v-port-vale-match/#:~:text=As part of a number,anti-social behaviour or disorder.
My guess is this is what the statement is intended to put across. Clearly, spraying ALL visiting fans is not going to happen. If they really intend to deploy this tool, they would only do so against people actively breaking the law.
Obviously, this wouldn't be enough to prosecuted somebody, it would require further evidence, or witnesses.
It does seem a potentially worrying development though, back to the bad old days of treating fans like animals.