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  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,680
    Carter said:

    I've got journeyman downloaded and ready to read on my holiday next week

    Just got back off hols which is the only time I read books. You’ve probably read it already but I downloaded Johnny Tapia’s biography - Ma Vida Loca . And it certainly was.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Carter said:

    I've got journeyman downloaded and ready to read on my holiday next week

    I bet it won't tell me anything I don't already know about the bullshit in boxing though, I am looking forward to reading it that said

    In recent memory I can think of 4 occasions boxing politics has interfered and ruined legitimate opportunities

    Burns v Beltran
    Connor Benn v the guy who blatantly beat him (I can picture the bloke but I can't remember his name)
    Groves v Froch
    Alvarez v Golovkin (first fight)

    all because the winners were the promoters poster boys, it's fucking disgusting and those occasions were the televised bouts, it happens a revolting amount in local level fights. ticket seller needs to be knocked out to lose, even if they drop every round the fight will be a draw at worst

    Peynard? He beat him in rematch I think the other month.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    Brown Bear said:

    I don’t think that we can truly judge this era, until some of the main protagonists have gone head to head a few times.

    The prospect of Joshua/Wilder/Fury having a succession of ‘Super Fights’ is an exciting and intriguing one, as all of them have something to prove, and all have obvious flaws that have had people talking before. Once they have all fought each other, and once we have seen the quality of those fights, we will be in a better position to judge all of their places in boxing history.

    We have now reached a time, when for the credibility of the sport (and indeed the individuals involved) these fights need to happen now – and I for one can’t wait to see them!

    Obviously beneath those three, you then have the ‘Tier Two’ Heavyweights such as Whyte, Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin and possibly Dubois given a bit of time – though I don’t see any of that lot making the step up anytime soon.

    After he's dealt with Bellew, add Usyk to that list. He will move up to heavy and will be a force to be reckoned with.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,251
    cs1986 said:

    Carter said:

    I've got journeyman downloaded and ready to read on my holiday next week

    I bet it won't tell me anything I don't already know about the bullshit in boxing though, I am looking forward to reading it that said

    In recent memory I can think of 4 occasions boxing politics has interfered and ruined legitimate opportunities

    Burns v Beltran
    Connor Benn v the guy who blatantly beat him (I can picture the bloke but I can't remember his name)
    Groves v Froch
    Alvarez v Golovkin (first fight)

    all because the winners were the promoters poster boys, it's fucking disgusting and those occasions were the televised bouts, it happens a revolting amount in local level fights. ticket seller needs to be knocked out to lose, even if they drop every round the fight will be a draw at worst

    Peynard? He beat him in rematch I think the other month.
    That's the one, he 100% lost the first fight, I would say it wasn't close either. I've got to be honest I didn't see the rematch but I was aware he beat him
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,251
    Boom said:

    Carter said:

    I've got journeyman downloaded and ready to read on my holiday next week

    Just got back off hols which is the only time I read books. You’ve probably read it already but I downloaded Johnny Tapia’s biography - Ma Vida Loca . And it certainly was.
    I loved Johnny Tapia, I didn't know there was a book on his life that shall also be getting downloaded today. He was beyond a character, didn't take any nonsense at all and from what I knew before he passed away, had an insane life
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Carter said:

    cs1986 said:

    Carter said:

    I've got journeyman downloaded and ready to read on my holiday next week

    I bet it won't tell me anything I don't already know about the bullshit in boxing though, I am looking forward to reading it that said

    In recent memory I can think of 4 occasions boxing politics has interfered and ruined legitimate opportunities

    Burns v Beltran
    Connor Benn v the guy who blatantly beat him (I can picture the bloke but I can't remember his name)
    Groves v Froch
    Alvarez v Golovkin (first fight)

    all because the winners were the promoters poster boys, it's fucking disgusting and those occasions were the televised bouts, it happens a revolting amount in local level fights. ticket seller needs to be knocked out to lose, even if they drop every round the fight will be a draw at worst

    Peynard? He beat him in rematch I think the other month.
    That's the one, he 100% lost the first fight, I would say it wasn't close either. I've got to be honest I didn't see the rematch but I was aware he beat him
    100% agree he smashed Benn to pieces in first fight and it only started being competitive once he ran out of steam
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    bobmunro said:

    Brown Bear said:

    I don’t think that we can truly judge this era, until some of the main protagonists have gone head to head a few times.

    The prospect of Joshua/Wilder/Fury having a succession of ‘Super Fights’ is an exciting and intriguing one, as all of them have something to prove, and all have obvious flaws that have had people talking before. Once they have all fought each other, and once we have seen the quality of those fights, we will be in a better position to judge all of their places in boxing history.

    We have now reached a time, when for the credibility of the sport (and indeed the individuals involved) these fights need to happen now – and I for one can’t wait to see them!

    Obviously beneath those three, you then have the ‘Tier Two’ Heavyweights such as Whyte, Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin and possibly Dubois given a bit of time – though I don’t see any of that lot making the step up anytime soon.

    After he's dealt with Bellew, add Usyk to that list. He will move up to heavy and will be a force to be reckoned with.
    Agreed - forgot to add Usyk to that list - really fear for Bellew in that fight.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    edited September 2018
    Decent documentary about Luke Campbell on tonight. Seems like a good lad and gave Linares a scare
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    So

    Tyson vs wilder on the 1st December

    Isaac off to big bear and pulling out of British but doing it in a bad way imo

    Taking a silver belt option on the Tyson under card

    And here’s my problem with that

    It’s disrespectful to the BBBOC and what I deem to be the best belt in the business

    It’s disrespectful to Ryan Walsh

    It’s a stupid decision as the BBBOC have to sanction the Isaac fight in Vegas and can say no due to the title fight now being in jeopardy on the copperbox card

    If Tyson loses to wilder (real possibility as I think it’s too soon ) then Eddie Hearn will be pissed proper with Isaac pulling out of the fight with Walsh this late and won’t touch him with a barge pole ever again

    This is all due to the team he chose to join not being able to help him prepare for his biggest challenge to date as their focus is on the big fella

    Silly move in my opinion by young Isaac , Tyson has three fights left maximum and Isaac should have atleast 8-10 left yet his whole career is going to ride on the big man getting the result




  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Gone for both AJ and povetkin to go down before UD for AJ 14-1
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  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    nth london addick said:

    Gone for both AJ and povetkin to go down before UD for AJ 14-1

    Interesting call, though povetkin can certainly bang
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    David Price really needs to retire
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    This Okolie fight is dross. I've not seen him fight before, is he usually this frustrating to watch?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    David Price really needs to retire

    I take it he lost ?
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    I have never watched a poorer fight than this okolie has ruined this
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    Awful fight. He'll get the decision but it's been appalling all the cuddling.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    blackpool72 said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    David Price really needs to retire

    I take it he lost ?
    Retired in his corner
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    Absolutely garbage so far

    Backed AJ rounds 10-12 at 13/2
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    blackpool72 said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    David Price really needs to retire

    I take it he lost ?
    Yeah quit at the end of the 4th round.

    I actually take back my comment as it's since become apparent he accepted the fight whilst injured, knew he was injured and likely wouldn't finish the fight. In which case he shouldn't have even been there.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    nth london addick said:

    I have never watched a poorer fight than this okolie has ruined this

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    Very, very poor fight.

    Not sure what the plans are for Okolie but no way on earth is he doing anything at world level.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    bobmunro said:

    Very, very poor fight.

    Not sure what the plans are for Okolie but no way on earth is he doing anything at world level.

    Terrible absolute shite Bob how he was allowed to get through that with out a DQ is beyond me , I notice Sky haven’t gone straight to interview, Eddie managing every minute of this fallout
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    edited September 2018
    Hoping Luke can win but Mendy at 4/1 looks too big to me.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Welcome to boxing.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Okolie was a pile of shite. Heard some reasonable things about him but he's going nowhere above British level based on that. And that is in a pointless division.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,465
    Anyone got a stream.

    Not worthy of my money though. Really not feeling it.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,828
    Come on Campbell.
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,554
    Can someone please explain why ibrahimovich says the surname of each boxer twice when introducing them?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    Bolderhumphreyreid said:

    Can someone please explain why ibrahimovich says the surname of each boxer twice when introducing them?

    Because he’s a twat.

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