The influence of the EU on Britain.
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The latter.se9addick said:After March, if we were to decide that this was all a very silly idea, can we simply stop the process once we are in the implementation period or would we effectively have to apply to rejoin the EU?
We can request to reverse Article 50 before it concludes at the end of March; or we can leave at the end of March and re-apply, under worse terms than we have now, after then.3 -
Farage speaking at EU today a disgrace, calling our civil service the enemy within. Running out of scapegoats I reckon1
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I see the tiresome practice of hitting "LOL" when reading a post that's too difficult to follow is continuing, unabated, despite requests.13
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There has been some quite helpful publicity recently in Spain for us Brits offering advice about how we will be affected by Brexit, though there is still a lot of uncertainty. One of the things that worries my wife and I is that her status here as an American is dependent on being the spouse of an EU citizen. We are hoping that a deal is made that we can keep the same status after being here for over six years, but I have to say there is a real feeling of dread about it all at the moment, not really helped by the UK government's totally hapless approach to the negotiations and general lack of planning. Some interesting points for us Brits in Spain are covered below:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/23/trans_iberian/1540304262_501829.html
So many things in our lives are tied up with being in Spain that it has the potential to be very complicated, but we are trying to be positive about it as many people are in the same situation. Luckily Spanish people have been very supportive, although completely bemused as to why the UK are putting themselves through all this.12 -
But we knew what we were voting for...CharltonMadrid said:There has been some quite helpful publicity recently in Spain for us Brits offering advice about how we will be affected by Brexit, though there is still a lot of uncertainty. One of the things that worries my wife and I is that her status here as an American is dependent on being the spouse of an EU citizens. We are hoping that a deal is made that we can keep the same status after being here for over six years, but I have to say there is a real feeling of dread about it all at the moment, not really helped by the UK government's totally hapless approach to the negotiations and general lack of planning. Some interesting points for us Brits in Spain are covered below:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/23/trans_iberian/1540304262_501829.html
So many things in our lives are tied up with being in Spain that it has the potential to be very complicated, we are trying to be positive about it as many people are in the same situation. Luckily Spanish people have been very supportive, although completely bemused as to why the UK are putting themselves through all this.3 -
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When do we hear the outcome of the 1922 committee meeting ?0
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BBC reporting that May won over the roomShootersHillGuru said:When do we hear the outcome of the 1922 committee meeting ?
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There was me, thinking it was a fair cop.....Holdkneebomb said:Farage speaking at EU today a disgrace, calling our civil service the enemy within. Running out of scapegoats I reckon
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He obviously dips into CL now and againNornIrishAddick said:
There was me, thinking it was a fair cop.....Holdkneebomb said:Farage speaking at EU today a disgrace, calling our civil service the enemy within. Running out of scapegoats I reckon
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I know that and I'm not calling him out as a racist. Quite the opposite.PaddyP17 said:
Very strange to call a man with a Chinese wife and half-Chinese son (that'll be me) a racist. Because he simply is not.TellyTubby said:
The usual racist rubbish from you Seth. Very disappointing that you refuse to grasp this aspect. Tbh I think that this view undermines any legimate objections to Brexit that you might have.seth plum said:
Everybody knows the real brexit is blue faces and white passports.golfaddick said:
Well, seeing as staying in THE Customs Union means keeping freedom of trade & movement of people then I would have to agree that its not Brexit.seth plum said:
Until the extreme brexiteers say a customs union is not brexit.ShootersHillGuru said:
May was hinting at a customs union so perhaps that’s not true @""seth plum"seth plum said:No border, no brexit.
Only problem of course is that Davis, Mogg et al won’t accept it. Suits the DUP though so it could come to a very close vote if the rest of what’s on the table satisfies Labours six tests.
Personally I now think David Davis will be PM before the end of March. That way the Tories survive because they won’t under any circumstances call a general election.
If David Davis ends up in charge perhaps he will magic up the easiest trade deal ever as he promised.
Incidentally regarding the land border in Ireland, Davis has lined up firmly behind the non existent, and unworkable 'technological' solution, dressed up with these ridiculous 'trusted trader' ideas, and local exemptions. That all translates into Davis has no solution to the Irish border question.
its not that hard to understand is it.
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More of a joke in people's eyes than anything else to be honest, an irrelevance more than anything actually offensive. This is a person who is incapable of having proper discussions and gives Leavers a bad name. The ones who actually write on here at least have something interesting and relevant to contribute, and this is far more important as the country needs people from all sides with a proper grasp of a complicated situation.4 -
Yeah I misinterpreted your post, get what you mean now. Apologies.TellyTubby said:
I know that and I'm not calling him out as a racist. Quite the opposite.PaddyP17 said:
Very strange to call a man with a Chinese wife and half-Chinese son (that'll be me) a racist. Because he simply is not.TellyTubby said:
The usual racist rubbish from you Seth. Very disappointing that you refuse to grasp this aspect. Tbh I think that this view undermines any legimate objections to Brexit that you might have.seth plum said:
Everybody knows the real brexit is blue faces and white passports.golfaddick said:
Well, seeing as staying in THE Customs Union means keeping freedom of trade & movement of people then I would have to agree that its not Brexit.seth plum said:
Until the extreme brexiteers say a customs union is not brexit.ShootersHillGuru said:
May was hinting at a customs union so perhaps that’s not true @""seth plum"seth plum said:No border, no brexit.
Only problem of course is that Davis, Mogg et al won’t accept it. Suits the DUP though so it could come to a very close vote if the rest of what’s on the table satisfies Labours six tests.
Personally I now think David Davis will be PM before the end of March. That way the Tories survive because they won’t under any circumstances call a general election.
If David Davis ends up in charge perhaps he will magic up the easiest trade deal ever as he promised.
Incidentally regarding the land border in Ireland, Davis has lined up firmly behind the non existent, and unworkable 'technological' solution, dressed up with these ridiculous 'trusted trader' ideas, and local exemptions. That all translates into Davis has no solution to the Irish border question.
its not that hard to understand is it.
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It's okay - the Chippy Defense League has censored my comment. Funny old world isn't it.CharltonMadrid said:
More of a joke in people's eyes to be honest than anything else to be honest, an irrelevance more than anything actually offensive. This is a person who is incapable of having proper discussions and gives Leavers a bad name. The ones who actually write on here at least have something interesting and relevant to contribute, and this is far more important as the country needs people from all sides with a proper grasp of a complicated situation.
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Not a problem Paddy. We have all jumped in with both feet at times. I probably would have done too if I thought that my old man was being unfairly attacked.PaddyP17 said:
Yeah I misinterpreted your post, get what you mean now. Apologies.TellyTubby said:
I know that and I'm not calling him out as a racist. Quite the opposite.PaddyP17 said:
Very strange to call a man with a Chinese wife and half-Chinese son (that'll be me) a racist. Because he simply is not.TellyTubby said:
The usual racist rubbish from you Seth. Very disappointing that you refuse to grasp this aspect. Tbh I think that this view undermines any legimate objections to Brexit that you might have.seth plum said:
Everybody knows the real brexit is blue faces and white passports.golfaddick said:
Well, seeing as staying in THE Customs Union means keeping freedom of trade & movement of people then I would have to agree that its not Brexit.seth plum said:
Until the extreme brexiteers say a customs union is not brexit.ShootersHillGuru said:
May was hinting at a customs union so perhaps that’s not true @""seth plum"seth plum said:No border, no brexit.
Only problem of course is that Davis, Mogg et al won’t accept it. Suits the DUP though so it could come to a very close vote if the rest of what’s on the table satisfies Labours six tests.
Personally I now think David Davis will be PM before the end of March. That way the Tories survive because they won’t under any circumstances call a general election.
If David Davis ends up in charge perhaps he will magic up the easiest trade deal ever as he promised.
Incidentally regarding the land border in Ireland, Davis has lined up firmly behind the non existent, and unworkable 'technological' solution, dressed up with these ridiculous 'trusted trader' ideas, and local exemptions. That all translates into Davis has no solution to the Irish border question.
its not that hard to understand is it.
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Not your usual source i'll grant you, but interesting thread
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As it states, always was, I have said the same often. How else would you get, for example, Ugg boots in the UK? The problems are about tariffs and taxes and customs checks, etc.Super_Eddie_Youds said:Not your usual source i'll grant you, but interesting thread
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I thought they were our friends?Henry Irving said:1 - Sponsored links:
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Straw man!Super_Eddie_Youds said:Not your usual source i'll grant you, but interesting thread
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I guess it would be if I, or indeed Bob Mortimer were making an argument at all.se9addick said:
Straw man!Super_Eddie_Youds said:Not your usual source i'll grant you, but interesting thread
It's just an interesting thread.0 -
The first in a long list of crimes against the citizens of the UK that should never be forgotten and never forgiven.guinnessaddick said:8 -
#projectfearRed_in_SE8 said:
The first in a long list of crimes against the citizens of the UK that should never be forgotten and never forgiven.guinnessaddick said:1 -
Yes, and my response doesn't really make any sense without your original post! Anyway, at least the quality of discussion has gone up. It's much easier to share personal experiences without the incoherent trolling and mindless insults directed at people living abroad that used to be on here. Brexit affects us too in many ways, and we are just as interested in what happens next as people living in the UK.Algarveaddick said:
It's okay - the Chippy Defense League has censored my comment. Funny old world isn't it.CharltonMadrid said:
More of a joke in people's eyes to be honest than anything else to be honest, an irrelevance more than anything actually offensive. This is a person who is incapable of having proper discussions and gives Leavers a bad name. The ones who actually write on here at least have something interesting and relevant to contribute, and this is far more important as the country needs people from all sides with a proper grasp of a complicated situation.1 -
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ukip-members-discuss-their-pensions-and-post-brexit-benefits-1-5749285
Looks like Nigel managed to get a day off from his LBC show. Record attendance by the UKIP cowboys.0 -
I've never understood why those most opposed to the EU seem keenest to earn a living from it? Am I missing something?Chaz Hill said:https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ukip-members-discuss-their-pensions-and-post-brexit-benefits-1-5749285
Looks like Nigel managed to get a day off from his LBC show. Record attendance by the UKIP cowboys.5 -
You're not missing anything at all mate, they're all massive hypocrites who will happily put money ahead of political ideology, and put political ideology ahead real world practicality and the well being of the UK.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
I've never understood why those most opposed to the EU seem keenest to earn a living from it? Am I missing something?Chaz Hill said:https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ukip-members-discuss-their-pensions-and-post-brexit-benefits-1-5749285
Looks like Nigel managed to get a day off from his LBC show. Record attendance by the UKIP cowboys.7 -
They weren’t exactly ‘earning’ a living by any stretch of the imagination given their attendance records!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
I've never understood why those most opposed to the EU seem keenest to earn a living from it? Am I missing something?Chaz Hill said:https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ukip-members-discuss-their-pensions-and-post-brexit-benefits-1-5749285
Looks like Nigel managed to get a day off from his LBC show. Record attendance by the UKIP cowboys.2 -
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/26/russia-brexit-liam-fox-wto-plan-uk?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherHenry Irving said:
Not just Russia it seems. Up to 20 other countries according to the above. Poor Dr Fox seems to be getting nowhere fast.0
