Portsmouth fans

MrOneLung said:

What happened in Greenwich?

Was there an incident at the station?

RaplhMilne said:

Chunes said:

Taxi_Lad said:

We can take the piss out of @MillwallFan and have fun doing it but they were top dogs for most of the hooligan heyday, mixing it with the likes of Chelsea West Ham Leeds. But it rankles with me when they claim to have been present at so many Charlton games.  I can think of 2/3 at most 

I don't get why them being 'top dogs' is a positive thing. Top of all the knuckle-dragging mindless thug idiots? Congratulations. What an honour. 

Why would anyone would want to imply that us having a 'decent mob' would be something to be proud of, either? I'd rather we never had one.

Well if we were all the same, and times didn't change then the world would be a boring place. I'm guessing you utilise social media for everything, use the phrase "Can I Get" and pay for a pint with a card. Now I don't get most of that, but that's today, and we were then.  None of us are saying that the passage of time, has not put it into a different perspective. However, it was a thing of its time. 

Great post mate, well said.

Baldybonce said:

Just to add to what Ralph said.
Actual violence/fighting was only a tiny percentage of what went on, usually lasted no more than a minute and from our side never involved anyone who wasn't up for it.
No regrets here.

Bloody hooligan. 

Any road you bloody hooligans...  Any truth in the rumour that Wall had it on with the Burton Massive last night in Floyd Road?  Something to do with some previous in 1985 between them and a dodgy stare out from one train platform to another incident... 

Taxi_Lad said:

Baldybonce said:

Just to add to what Ralph said.
Actual violence/fighting was only a tiny percentage of what went on, usually lasted no more than a minute and from our side never involved anyone who wasn't up for it.
No regrets here.

I sort of regret those purple Lois jumbo cords I wore 😳

worn with a pair of Diadora Bjorg Elite and a Fila BJ tracksuit top I hope.

RaplhMilne said:

Chunes said:

Taxi_Lad said:

We can take the piss out of @MillwallFan and have fun doing it but they were top dogs for most of the hooligan heyday, mixing it with the likes of Chelsea West Ham Leeds. But it rankles with me when they claim to have been present at so many Charlton games.  I can think of 2/3 at most 

I don't get why them being 'top dogs' is a positive thing. Top of all the knuckle-dragging mindless thug idiots? Congratulations. What an honour. 

Why would anyone would want to imply that us having a 'decent mob' would be something to be proud of, either? I'd rather we never had one.

Well if we were all the same, and times didn't change then the world would be a boring place. I'm guessing you utilise social media for everything, use the phrase "Can I Get" and pay for a pint with a card. Now I don't get most of that, but that's today, and we were then.  None of us are saying that the passage of time, has not put it into a different perspective. However, it was a thing of its time. 

Chunes help you breath more easily.......or not........as the case may be.

MillwallFan said:

Chunes said:

Taxi_Lad said:

We can take the piss out of @MillwallFan and have fun doing it but they were top dogs for most of the hooligan heyday, mixing it with the likes of Chelsea West Ham Leeds. But it rankles with me when they claim to have been present at so many Charlton games.  I can think of 2/3 at most 

I don't get why them being 'top dogs' is a positive thing. Top of all the knuckle-dragging mindless thug idiots? Congratulations. What an honour. 

Why would anyone would want to imply that us having a 'decent mob' would be something to be proud of, either? I'd rather we never had one.

I think for a lot of people it was a youth culture of the time, just like teddy boys, mods and rockers, skinheads etc

yeah, there was the tribalistic violence, as there was in those other sub cultures mentioned, but for those involved, more often than not young lads who lived and worked in some pretty bleak surroundings, it offered so much more than that. The music of the era, the social life, the clobber, the sense of belonging, and above all the camaraderie.  Was it right? Course it wasn’t. But you can see how a young lad off some rough old estate in the heart of SE London would get involved.  

Its a bit sad seeing older blokes involved, just like it’s a bit sad when you see those aging  mods and rockers down the coast, but I suppose some people struggle to let go of the buzz it gave them as a youngster 

Millwall fan .
You raise an interesting point about it being sad when older people get involved  and I agree with you. 
Back in the late 60s and throughout the 70s most people who got involved in these shenanigans were teenager's or in their 20s. 
The exception to this was millwall. 
When I used to go to the den as a teenager the majority of millwall fans who wanted to give me a good hiding were considerably older.
Even now when I go to the den I look at the knobs in the upper Dockers stand frothing at the mouth and making all sorts of threats to the away supporters and I have to laugh at how old some of them are 40 and 50 year old men acting like utter knobs.
Nothing appears to have changed at millwall in this regard it's about time some of your supporters realised its not the 70s anymore .

1905 said:

Baldybonce said:

Taxi_Lad said:

We can take the piss out of @MillwallFan and have fun doing it but they were top dogs for most of the hooligan heyday, mixing it with the likes of Chelsea West Ham Leeds. But it rankles with me when they claim to have been present at so many Charlton games.  I can think of 2/3 at most 

The last time they came was against Burnley (I think) and about 50 got a good hiding where our Police control box is now. One of those was Craig Fairbrass the actor. The afters went on for some time afterwards including my brother getting done by them on a bus.

Was this against Barnsley?  We were in the Jimmy Seed as the seats were being put in the North?

Millwall caught a cold that day. 

fog horn said:

Trust Millwall to turn it around to be all about them. LOL 

Pretty sure it was Barnsley and the Millwall mob first tried to see if Barnsley were interested in teaming up - they weren't. We arrived at the back of the South Stand where the Millwall were grouped and when the numbers evened out it all kicked off and they fought a running rearguard out of the ground. I had great fun chasing Fairbrass up the muddy slope behind the flats in Valley Grove. He was shitting himself and covered in mud as he desperately tried to climb away. A bully who I once heard scream "I hope you die of cancer" to a Traffic Warden ticketing his Merc at The Standard. I came across him threatening a mate of mine once outside his home (old schoolboy) and asked him to pick on someone his size - he laid an egg. After many years of doing it, that was the last time Millwall ever showed up at a non-Millwall game.

charltonbob said:

addick05 said:

milo said:

raytreacy69 said:

Goonerhater said:

That pic of the Pompey game is not Chsrlton and Pompey having it.It was Charlton v Plod ---- Pompey weren't about that day.

We were in three pubs in Havant and Plod moved everyone out from there. Shoved us into one section in the ground and then started aiming people out.Thats till it went off.

I think this was very close to when we got booted out of The Valley ,probably the first big away game

Was there that day -think we lost .Soon after we we won 5-3 down at Brighton .Curbs scored for us .

We won 2-1, drew 1-1 ‘home’ to Portsmouth at Selhurst that year. Portsmouth were relegated we finished two places above them. The season we needed a draw away to Chelsea to avoid the playoffs.

brighton 5-3 was our promotion season.

Remember that game. Mike Flanagan scored, came running over to us and jumped up on the wire fencing in celebration. Listened to the radio in the motor on the way home and the Brighton manager (can't remember who he was) bemoaning the fact that if Brighton 'were going to go up they had to beat the likes of Charlton'. Cocky dipstick. Wonder what he made of the final table at the end of the season. Back to the punch-up stories, who remembers the FA Cup against Arsenal at Highbury - 1968?- when Charlton took the North Bank?

1969 ;-) Thousands of Charlton there that day, up the North bank & on the side. Hundreds ran riot in Holloway Road early on, many shop windows went through & mass looting of Jewellers off licences & clothes shops. Leicester coach on the way to Millwall passed us by with a few missiles thrown. Made front page headlines in the Evening News that night. 

There was large article on the Charlton march to the game, the trouble at the match and damage and theft from jewellers en route in the News of the World too.