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The customer is always rightMrLargo said:
Worked for 'spoons for 5 years when I was younger. This myth about buying beer with a short shelf life is absolute nonsense and always has been. They are able to sell more cheaply than their competitors for the same reason that's Sainsburys and Tesco can sell more cheaply than the local off licence - you buy more, you pay less.palarsehater said:
wetherspoons make there money by buying up beer with v little shelf life left and threw the vast amount of pubs can network it out.Redskin said:
Their prices should be the norm; the poor man's 'treats', beer; a fag; football are now beyond his pocket.palarsehater said:like a pub every business has staff to pay etc, the mark up on alcohol is small, unfortunately chains like wetherspoons seem to make everyone think that there prices should be the norm
Countries like France and Spain regard these things - along with a decent meal - as a right, not a privilege.
In the early 2000s, when I worked there, Guinness tried to increase the price that Wetherspoons were paying - 'spoons said "no" and started stocking Murphys instead. A few months later, Guinness came back and agreed to stick with the old price if they started stocking it again. Nothing to do with use by dates.
Their Irish pubs currently serve Beamish because they're in dispute with Diageo (Guinness) and Murphys. Again, that's over price, it's not because only Beamish has got loads of nearly out of date stout knocking around.
Not a massive fan of Wetherspoons, but used to get the right hump with ill-informed locals telling me why our beer was so cheap when I was working behind the bar.3 -
I’m no expert but I’d say he was in the pubSoundAsa£ said:
Would help if you said where you are?SomervilleAddick said:Reading this I was inspired to do some price comparison with one of my local bars. All prices converted to £ per imperial pint
Narragansett (cheap lager) - £3.78
Founders Solid Gold (lager) - £6.61
Fiddlehead IPA (decent) - £10.07
Almanac Supernova Sour - £15.11
And this isn’t an expensive bar. It about average for craft beer.0 -
Spot on about the out of date myth, perhaps incorrect on the Beamish and Murphys issue as both are owned, brewed and distributed by Heineken...MrLargo said:
Worked for 'spoons for 5 years when I was younger. This myth about buying beer with a short shelf life is absolute nonsense and always has been. They are able to sell more cheaply than their competitors for the same reason that's Sainsburys and Tesco can sell more cheaply than the local off licence - you buy more, you pay less.palarsehater said:
wetherspoons make there money by buying up beer with v little shelf life left and threw the vast amount of pubs can network it out.Redskin said:
Their prices should be the norm; the poor man's 'treats', beer; a fag; football are now beyond his pocket.palarsehater said:like a pub every business has staff to pay etc, the mark up on alcohol is small, unfortunately chains like wetherspoons seem to make everyone think that there prices should be the norm
Countries like France and Spain regard these things - along with a decent meal - as a right, not a privilege.
In the early 2000s, when I worked there, Guinness tried to increase the price that Wetherspoons were paying - 'spoons said "no" and started stocking Murphys instead. A few months later, Guinness came back and agreed to stick with the old price if they started stocking it again. Nothing to do with use by dates.
Their Irish pubs currently serve Beamish because they're in dispute with Diageo (Guinness) and Murphys. Again, that's over price, it's not because only Beamish has got loads of nearly out of date stout knocking around.
Not a massive fan of Wetherspoons, but used to get the right hump with ill-informed locals telling me why our beer was so cheap when I was working behind the bar.0 -
And both are disgusting0
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Quite like a Beamish myself - had the pleasure of spending a bit of time around the old Beamish and Crawford brewery in Cork and more widely around the wider County Cork - always went down quite nicely!Alwaysneil said:And both are disgusting
Murphy's, on the other hand....0 -
Probably so that we don't stray in there. £10.07 for a pint, that's a piss take. Never paid more than £5 a pint for craft beer even at 6% ABV.SoundAsa£ said:
Would help if you said where you are?SomervilleAddick said:Reading this I was inspired to do some price comparison with one of my local bars. All prices converted to £ per imperial pint
Narragansett (cheap lager) - £3.78
Founders Solid Gold (lager) - £6.61
Fiddlehead IPA (decent) - £10.07
Almanac Supernova Sour - £15.11
And this isn’t an expensive bar. It about average for craft beer.
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Unless it's you.clb74 said:
The customer is always rightMrLargo said:
Worked for 'spoons for 5 years when I was younger. This myth about buying beer with a short shelf life is absolute nonsense and always has been. They are able to sell more cheaply than their competitors for the same reason that's Sainsburys and Tesco can sell more cheaply than the local off licence - you buy more, you pay less.palarsehater said:
wetherspoons make there money by buying up beer with v little shelf life left and threw the vast amount of pubs can network it out.Redskin said:
Their prices should be the norm; the poor man's 'treats', beer; a fag; football are now beyond his pocket.palarsehater said:like a pub every business has staff to pay etc, the mark up on alcohol is small, unfortunately chains like wetherspoons seem to make everyone think that there prices should be the norm
Countries like France and Spain regard these things - along with a decent meal - as a right, not a privilege.
In the early 2000s, when I worked there, Guinness tried to increase the price that Wetherspoons were paying - 'spoons said "no" and started stocking Murphys instead. A few months later, Guinness came back and agreed to stick with the old price if they started stocking it again. Nothing to do with use by dates.
Their Irish pubs currently serve Beamish because they're in dispute with Diageo (Guinness) and Murphys. Again, that's over price, it's not because only Beamish has got loads of nearly out of date stout knocking around.
Not a massive fan of Wetherspoons, but used to get the right hump with ill-informed locals telling me why our beer was so cheap when I was working behind the bar.0 -
Somerville,Massachusetts I think.SoundAsa£ said:
Would help if you said where you are?SomervilleAddick said:Reading this I was inspired to do some price comparison with one of my local bars. All prices converted to £ per imperial pint
Narragansett (cheap lager) - £3.78
Founders Solid Gold (lager) - £6.61
Fiddlehead IPA (decent) - £10.07
Almanac Supernova Sour - £15.11
And this isn’t an expensive bar. It about average for craft beer.0 -
Vincenzo said:Starting to worry about The Star now @Curb_It. While I quite like Dirty Liquor's pub in Deptford, I didn't realise they had torn down all the original Truman wood panelling there to give it the bare brick look. Given the similar interior at The Star I'm concerned they are going to do the same thing.
Worry no more @vincenzo ! The panelling is still in place looking at these pictures. Looks great I think, although I’m sure it won’t be everyone’s taste.
https://m.facebook.com/thestarSE18/
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Abbey Arms in Abbey Wood closing.
"A company called Dirty Liquor are refurbishing the pub and re-opening it in May. It’s the same company that have recently refurbished The Star in Plumstead."
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Have been spending a bit of time in The Cockpit round the back streets of Blackfriars recently.
If if anyone feels nostalgic for an old school boozer in the City then this ones for you. It doesn't look like it's had a lick of paint since the 80s - the 1880s!2 -
Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.0 -
Is that the big white pub on the high st near the posh butcher?ElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.0 -
I doubt your be missedElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.0 -
Yes mate, 30 seconds away from the Coach and Horses.orpingtonRED said:
Is that the big white pub on the high st near the posh butcher?ElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.
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clb74 said:
I doubt your be missedElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.
Unlike The Greyhound in Bromley North.........clb74 said:
I doubt your be missedElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.
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I used to drink in there in the 80's when I was working in the Money Markets on Ludgate Hill. Was a Courage pub then and run by an Irish family. Excellent Best and Directors and the Guinness was good too. A delightful food menu too, Ham or Cheese & Onion rolls, nothing else!Off_it said:Have been spending a bit of time in The Cockpit round the back streets of Blackfriars recently.
If if anyone feels nostalgic for an old school boozer in the City then this ones for you. It doesn't look like it's had a lick of paint since the 80s - the 1880s!2 -
Boozers are now restaurants.
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Needed it though mate, the place was dying.ElfsborgAddick said:Having moved 18 months ago I had not been to The George in Beckenham for a while.
I went there two weeks ago to find the refurb of a traditional English boozer is now virtually a restaurant!
It will be a LONG time before I go back.
I was in there last Saturday for a couple before heading up to Patrick's and it was rammed.
It had been about a year since I'd last been there because it was a shithole! My mates suggested going as he'd heard it had been done up, so they've gained a few customers there.
Horses for courses I suppose.
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Used to drink in there when worked at BNY Mellon.Off_it said:Have been spending a bit of time in The Cockpit round the back streets of Blackfriars recently.
If if anyone feels nostalgic for an old school boozer in the City then this ones for you. It doesn't look like it's had a lick of paint since the 80s - the 1880s!
Proper dive.0 -
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Went to Dambusters Inn in Scampton yesterday......great pub full to the brim with Dambusters and Red Arrows memorabilia as well as a host of Lancaster Bomber parts......including a massive tyre and a propeller!
There’s even a black Labrador in attendance.
The landlord Greg Algar (a very genial chap), has something of a SE London accent and was originally from Canterbury. Used to drink in The Greyhound in Bromley back in the day.
Rather strangely, he fervently supports Coventry City.....though I didn’t ask him why.
He holds all sorts of events throughout the year which involve the ever diminishing WW2 bomber command veterans, with special reverence being paid to 617 Squadron (The Dambusters).
Has won The Camara award for best pub in Lincolnshire and has a micro brewery on site.
Well worth a visit if you’re ever in that neck of the woods.0 -
Could you ask him if he knows the current landlord of The Greyhound. If he does, could you get him to have a word about lifting my ban from there.SoundAsa£ said:Went to Dambusters Inn in Scampton yesterday......great pub full to the brim with Dambusters and Red Arrows memorabilia as well as a host of Lancaster Bomber parts......including a massive tyre and a propeller!
There’s even a black Labrador in attendance.
The landlord Greg Algar (a very genial chap), has something of a SE London accent and was originally from Canterbury. Used to drink in The Greyhound in Bromley back in the day.
Rather strangely, he fervently supports Coventry City.....though I didn’t ask him why.
He holds all sorts of events throughout the year which involve the ever diminishing WW2 bomber command veterans, with special reverence being paid to 617 Squadron (The Dambusters).
Has won The Camara award for best pub in Lincolnshire and has a micro brewery on site.
Well worth a visit if you’re ever in that neck of the woods.1 -
Does the labrador's name begin with 'n'?1
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Enjoyed a drop of the black stuff yesterday in the Shipwright Arms, very handy for London Bridge even though it really looks out of place now with all the building work that has gone on in that area over the last few years.0
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Why did you get banned?ElfsborgAddick said:
Could you ask him if he knows the current landlord of The Greyhound. If he does, could you get him to have a word about lifting my ban from there.SoundAsa£ said:Went to Dambusters Inn in Scampton yesterday......great pub full to the brim with Dambusters and Red Arrows memorabilia as well as a host of Lancaster Bomber parts......including a massive tyre and a propeller!
There’s even a black Labrador in attendance.
The landlord Greg Algar (a very genial chap), has something of a SE London accent and was originally from Canterbury. Used to drink in The Greyhound in Bromley back in the day.
Rather strangely, he fervently supports Coventry City.....though I didn’t ask him why.
He holds all sorts of events throughout the year which involve the ever diminishing WW2 bomber command veterans, with special reverence being paid to 617 Squadron (The Dambusters).
Has won The Camara award for best pub in Lincolnshire and has a micro brewery on site.
Well worth a visit if you’re ever in that neck of the woods.
The shame of being bounced out of a Wetherspoons3 -
I wouldn’t call it a “dive”. It’s old school and has character. I like the fact you can’t see into it unless you commit to going through the door, just like how all pubs used to be (so the old man could hide from his old lady!).MrOneLung said:
Used to drink in there when worked at BNY Mellon.Off_it said:Have been spending a bit of time in The Cockpit round the back streets of Blackfriars recently.
If if anyone feels nostalgic for an old school boozer in the City then this ones for you. It doesn't look like it's had a lick of paint since the 80s - the 1880s!
Proper dive.
And to be honest, the fact that the pricks from BNY Mellon next door seem to give it a wide berth is another tick in the box for me!1 -
Indeed but thanks to middle class female dominated Focus Groups over the past 15 years the likes of Shepard Neame and Youngs have ruined many of their traditional pubs by installing huge unfrosted windows, and they (middle class women) still don't use them.Off_it said:
I wouldn’t call it a “dive”. It’s old school and has character. I like the fact you can’t see into it unless you commit to going through the door, just like how all pubs used to be (so the old man could hide from his old lady!).MrOneLung said:
Used to drink in there when worked at BNY Mellon.Off_it said:Have been spending a bit of time in The Cockpit round the back streets of Blackfriars recently.
If if anyone feels nostalgic for an old school boozer in the City then this ones for you. It doesn't look like it's had a lick of paint since the 80s - the 1880s!
Proper dive.
And to be honest, the fact that the pricks from BNY Mellon next door seem to give it a wide berth is another tick in the box for me!0 -
Wetherspoons draught/pump beer consistently tastes worse than any other pub (and I'm far from the only person who has noticed this fact), which is probably why the 'out of date' myth gained traction. Also the only place I've had a beer that's given me gut rot. So is it out of date, are the lines filthy, or are the suppliers purposefully flogging a lesser, cheaper product to Spoons to make up for the low prices?MrLargo said:
Worked for 'spoons for 5 years when I was younger. This myth about buying beer with a short shelf life is absolute nonsense and always has been. They are able to sell more cheaply than their competitors for the same reason that's Sainsburys and Tesco can sell more cheaply than the local off licence - you buy more, you pay less. In the early 2000s, when I worked there, Guinness tried to increase the price that Wetherspoons were paying - 'spoons said "no" and started stocking Murphys instead. A few months later, Guinness came back and agreed to stick with the old price if they started stocking it again. Nothing to do with use by dates. Their Irish pubs currently serve Beamish because they're in dispute with Diageo (Guinness) and Murphys. Again, that's over price, it's not because only Beamish has got loads of nearly out of date stout knocking around. Not a massive fan of Wetherspoons, but used to get the right hump with ill-informed locals telling me why our beer was so cheap when I was working behind the bar.
wetherspoons make there money by buying up beer with v little shelf life left and threw the vast amount of pubs can network it out.like a pub every business has staff to pay etc, the mark up on alcohol is small, unfortunately chains like wetherspoons seem to make everyone think that there prices should be the norm
Their prices should be the norm; the poor man's 'treats', beer; a fag; football are now beyond his pocket. Countries like France and Spain regard these things - along with a decent meal - as a right, not a privilege.
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Is this all Spoons or a particular one?
Never had any issues with them myself.0
