Good pub crawl yesterday in Lewes, went in 6 pubs all were pretty good but special mention to the Royal Oak which has been superbly done up.
The Snowdrop Inn in Lewes is always worth a visit. Not named after the flower, but rather the deadliest avalanche in British history which happened in 1836. The pub was built on the site of the 7 destroyed workers' cottages in 1840 & is still going strong today.
It was widely reported yesterday that Enterprise Inns (EI Group) are considering selling their whole property portfolio. This could be really bad news for pubs in SE London as EI and it's subsidiary companies own loads of them; Pelton, Red Lion & Bull (both Shooters Hill) and the Park Tavern in Eltham to name just a few. I wouldn't imagine many tenants would be able to or even want to buy their freeholds. They may not even be given the option. Of course other Pub Co's like Youngs or M&B may be interested but more worryingly so will loads of property developers.
Good pub crawl yesterday in Lewes, went in 6 pubs all were pretty good but special mention to the Royal Oak which has been superbly done up.
The Snowdrop Inn in Lewes is always worth a visit. Not named after the flower, but rather the deadliest avalanche in British history which happened in 1836. The pub was built on the site of the 7 destroyed workers' cottages in 1840 & is still going strong today.
Most pubs are too big and are empty mid week thats why Micro Pubs are springing up. We have the biggest concentration down here in Broadstairs (six within walking distance of me) and they all have better atmosphere than the 10-12 pubs in can walk to.
Most pubs are too big and are empty mid week thats why Micro Pubs are springing up. We have the biggest concentration down here in Broadstairs (six within walking distance of me) and they all have better atmosphere than the 10-12 pubs in can walk to.
I am completely behind the ethos of what a mivropubs should be, good drink, decent people and conversation with other humans
I get that pubs make their money from doing food and the midweek drink is dying so big pubs that are not essentially McDonald's with a licence are falling down
Also with the football comes the armchair know it all arsehole which is one of the quickest ways to get me out of the pub during football
I love the micro pubs, but the nearest to me is a 20-25 minute bus ride away or a train ride to either Eltham or Hayes. I see there's one planned for Hither Green from earlier in this thread, which is still a fair old trek from where I live but I look forward to visiting it.
Here in ShepherdsWell we have a B&B who turned their bar into a Micro Pub, The Tipsy Gardner. Well worth a visit, and run by a fellow Addick who moved down from Eltham.
Not sure how much in this, but apparently Wetherspoons looking at the Pickwick.
Would be very surprised if that happened. Apart from anything else, I'm struggling to think of a single Wetherspoons pub that actually occupies a conventional pub building rather than a converted shop/cinema bingo hall or purpose built venue.
Not sure how much in this, but apparently Wetherspoons looking at the Pickwick.
Would be very surprised if that happened. Apart from anything else, I'm struggling to think of a single Wetherspoons pub that actually occupies a conventional pub building rather than a converted shop/cinema bingo hall or purpose built venue.
Don’t know where these premises are exactly ....but Wetherspoons always put their pubs in a location where there is a reasonably significant footfall. If I’m not mistaken there isn’t much footfall where you are suggesting?
Not sure how much in this, but apparently Wetherspoons looking at the Pickwick.
Would be very surprised if that happened. Apart from anything else, I'm struggling to think of a single Wetherspoons pub that actually occupies a conventional pub building rather than a converted shop/cinema bingo hall or purpose built venue.
Don’t know where these premises are exactly ....but Wetherspoons always put their pubs in a location where there is a reasonably significant footfall. If I’m not mistaken there isn’t much footfall where you are suggesting?
You've lost me. I'm not suggesting anywhere. The previous poster said they're rumored to be looking at The Pickwick. I said they don't usually put their pubs in traditional pub buildings (such as the Pickwick). They usually do purpose-built (such as the one in Greenwich) or convert buildings that used to be used for something else (Forest Hill - former cinema, Lewisham and Lee Green - converted shops).
Not sure how much in this, but apparently Wetherspoons looking at the Pickwick.
Would be very surprised if that happened. Apart from anything else, I'm struggling to think of a single Wetherspoons pub that actually occupies a conventional pub building rather than a converted shop/cinema bingo hall or purpose built venue.
Don’t know where these premises are exactly ....but Wetherspoons always put their pubs in a location where there is a reasonably significant footfall. If I’m not mistaken there isn’t much footfall where you are suggesting?
You've lost me. I'm not suggesting anywhere. The previous poster said they're rumored to be looking at The Pickwick. I said they don't usually put their pubs in traditional pub buildings (such as the Pickwick). They usually do purpose-built (such as the one in Greenwich) or convert buildings that used to be used for something else (Forest Hill - former cinema, Lewisham and Lee Green - converted shops).
I know that Mr L......I was just adding another reason to the one you had already mentioned as to why I wouldn’t think that they’ll be interested in that site. i.e. little or no passing trade. However, they do in fact often take on old existing pub establishments......as pointed out by Bromley Graham above......there’s 3 in The Borough of Bromley alone.
Here in ShepherdsWell we have a B&B who turned their bar into a Micro Pub, The Tipsy Gardner. Well worth a visit, and run by a fellow Addick who moved down from Eltham.
With the prices that a Wetherspoons charge they will always draw people in.
The (old)Pickwick was not in the best location though the so it would be interesting to see how they got on if it opened up.
Always liked The Pickwick, the service was good and you tended to not get so many people in there.
If a Wetherspoons opened in Charlton it would be rammed on match days and do well the rest of the time. I've been saying for years they should open one.
With the prices that a Wetherspoons charge they will always draw people in.
The (old)Pickwick was not in the best location though the so it would be interesting to see how they got on if it opened up.
Always liked The Pickwick, the service was good and you tended to not get so many people in there.
If a Wetherspoons opened in Charlton it would be rammed on match days and do well the rest of the time. I've been saying for years they should open one.
Antigallican (?spelling) would probably be the place
With the prices that a Wetherspoons charge they will always draw people in.
The (old)Pickwick was not in the best location though the so it would be interesting to see how they got on if it opened up.
Always liked The Pickwick, the service was good and you tended to not get so many people in there.
If a Wetherspoons opened in Charlton it would be rammed on match days and do well the rest of the time. I've been saying for years they should open one.
Antigallican (?spelling) would probably be the place
Not central enough and not much footfall for their purposes Len.......unfortunately.
It was widely reported yesterday that Enterprise Inns (EI Group) are considering selling their whole property portfolio. This could be really bad news for pubs in SE London as EI and it's subsidiary companies own loads of them; Pelton, Red Lion & Bull (both Shooters Hill) and the Park Tavern in Eltham to name just a few. I wouldn't imagine many tenants would be able to or even want to buy their freeholds. They may not even be given the option. Of course other Pub Co's like Youngs or M&B may be interested but more worryingly so will loads of property developers.
This could devastate the pub scene. The Times reports several Private Equity firms have bid for their portfolio already, looking to cash in on the lucrative property assets.
Can't see them wanting to keep them as pubs when there's money to be made from shit flats.
Here in ShepherdsWell we have a B&B who turned their bar into a Micro Pub, The Tipsy Gardner. Well worth a visit, and run by a fellow Addick who moved down from Eltham.
Used to drink in the Bell, many moons ago.
New ownership now and both pubs seemed to be doing well, serving different clientele. The Brick is still shut but if you have a spare £26,000 it could be yours, or two new houses if the owners get their way.
Went again to the newish Wetherspoons in Ramsgate yesterday ( the biggest in UK) - Veggie Burger / Chips etc and a glass of Pinot Grigio for the missus and a Gourmet Chicken Burger / Chips etc and a pint of Shipyard APA (my favourite) for 17 quid - the same down the front in Broadstairs would be 30-31 quid ...
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I get that pubs make their money from doing food and the midweek drink is dying so big pubs that are not essentially McDonald's with a licence are falling down
Also with the football comes the armchair know it all arsehole which is one of the quickest ways to get me out of the pub during football
Long live the microbrewery/pub.
If I’m not mistaken there isn’t much footfall where you are suggesting?
The (old)Pickwick was not in the best location though the so it would be interesting to see how they got on if it opened up.
Always liked The Pickwick, the service was good and you tended to not get so many people in there.
i.e. little or no passing trade.
However, they do in fact often take on old existing pub establishments......as pointed out by Bromley Graham above......there’s 3 in The Borough of Bromley alone.
Pickwick is too small and not in right location for Wetherspoons though.
I've been saying for years they should open one.
Can't see them wanting to keep them as pubs when there's money to be made from shit flats.