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Why was greyworm allowed to live.
Once bran was king, greyworm was just a dany collaborater.
It would have saved Jon joining a pointless Knight watch.0 -
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Yeah, the fact that he basically slaughtered unarmed people who had surrendered did seem to get glossed over rather easily.smudge7946 said:Why was greyworm allowed to live.
Once bran was king, greyworm was just a dany collaborater.
It would have saved Jon joining a pointless Knight watch.
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I guess the fact he had a big army behind him put them off. Let him and the Unsullied piss off quietly to Naath and hope the Dothraki decide to go back East.smudge7946 said:Why was greyworm allowed to live.
Once bran was king, greyworm was just a dany collaborater.
It would have saved Jon joining a pointless Knight watch.2 -
The Unsullied occupied Kings Landing and had two prisoners of value. Then they parlayed with the people who had surrounded the city. They agreed a deal.
I dont think the the last two seasons were perfect, but most of these complaints are easily explained. The question I’m interested in is, why are people so keen to give it a kicking?12 -
Explaining why it's bad doesn't make it good.JiMMy 85 said:The Unsullied occupied Kings Landing and had two prisoners of value. Then they parlayed with the people who had surrounded the city. They agreed a deal.
I dont think the the last two seasons were perfect, but most of these complaints are easily explained. The question I’m interested in is, why are people so keen to give it a kicking?
I'll grant you it has turned into an internet dog pile, but that's the internet and that's fandom. If you break people's favourite TV show they won't sit and take it quietly these days.3 -
"The question I’m interested in is, why are people so keen to give it a kicking?"
Over the last couple of years, a trend has emerged where anything remotely popular is being mass-downvoted by gatekeepers on IMDB and RT. Then everyone else follows suit because they think they're following a trend. Basically disliking something makes you look like a critical thinker or something?
I'm not saying it was perfect. By all means not my favourite season and some less than satisfactory plot points. But the level of whinging is completely manufactured. People saying this season ruined the previous 7? Get a grip.
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Who the fck is Aaron Rodgers!?!NapaAddick said:Even Aaron Rodgers hated GOT's ending. And his reasoning is sound!
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Who the fck is Aaron Rodgers!?!NapaAddick said:Even Aaron Rodgers hated GOT's ending. And his reasoning is sound!1 -
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😂😂😂RodneyCharltonTrotta said:1 -
Self-entitled nonsense. The whining and the snarky memes have done far more to ‘break’ this show than the show runners.Missed It said:
If you break people's favourite TV show they won't sit and take it quietly these days.JiMMy 85 said:The Unsullied occupied Kings Landing and had two prisoners of value. Then they parlayed with the people who had surrounded the city. They agreed a deal.
I dont think the the last two seasons were perfect, but most of these complaints are easily explained. The question I’m interested in is, why are people so keen to give it a kicking?
There are comments in this thread that make absolutely no sense. For instance, there’s a comment about how ‘the director’ has affected the performances of the cast. Each episode has a different directors ffs.
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JiMMy 85 said:
Self-entitled nonsense. The whining and the snarky memes have done far more to ‘break’ this show than the show runners.Missed It said:
If you break people's favourite TV show they won't sit and take it quietly these days.JiMMy 85 said:The Unsullied occupied Kings Landing and had two prisoners of value. Then they parlayed with the people who had surrounded the city. They agreed a deal.
I dont think the the last two seasons were perfect, but most of these complaints are easily explained. The question I’m interested in is, why are people so keen to give it a kicking?
There are comments in this thread that make absolutely no sense. For instance, there’s a comment about how ‘the director’ has affected the performances of the cast. Each episode has a different directors ffs.
If it's great everybody sits at home and laps it up. Nobody is up all night photoshopping memes. Something has gone on with the viewers to turn them against the show. This wasn't just a Daenerys Targaryen character flip. This used to be the best thing on TV and now, production values aside, it quite clearly isn't.
Are people self-entitled? I guess they are. The petition to remake the whole series is one of the most ridiculous things going. It's never getting remade, it's a stupid proposition, but the petition is a publicly available and visible expression of the audience's dissatisfaction. It's really no different to old fashioned 'word of mouth' either boosting or sinking a movie. It just happens to be the biggest TV show on the planet so everything is magnified x1,000
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Just a shame that George RR Martin’s true ending which was that just after everyone left went off happy ever after, a meteor struck Westeros, 99% human death rate.
Cut to shots if three years of no sun from the dust cloud, remaining 1% die.
Dead planet, cut to millions off years later, life begins again, etc4 -
The criticism has been ridiculous. Primarily because very few people seem to understand that there's a huge chasm between 'I didn't like it' and 'it's shit, they've ruined it, it's bad tv'. If you didn't like the series then that's unfortunate for you, because it's one less thing you get to enjoy, but so many people online seem to think that their personal opinion on a programme means it's objectively bad. The series hasn't been bad. It's not lived up to early standards, and it's definitely felt rushed, but they've managed to tie together plot strands from 7 big, convoluted series and come to an ending that was thematically coherent, tied up storylines for all the main characters and lined up with foreshadowing and signposting from previous series. That's an incredible accomplishment for any tv show. I'm so tired of reading about how certain scenes didn't make sense, or that things turned out to be pointless, or my personal favourites 'bad writing' (I didn't like it) and 'ruins their character arc' (I didn't get it). The answers to these almost always are that things do make sense, but they had a planned outcome in their head, or ascribed meaning to something that wasn't there and are now having a tantrum because they didn't get what they wanted. Debating events in shows is great, and there's really interesting conversations on here, but the up in arms petition-signing windbags bleating because they didn't get what they wanted (which is a hallmark of the show they're watching) and confusing their predictions being wrong with the show being bad are just ludicrous people.
But then I suppose when you had 9 million people watching season one and 44 million watching season 8 you're going to pick up your fair share of people who don't really get the show they're watching along the way.6 -
For what it's worth I have read all the books (and most others set in the same setting but at a different time) and watched every season so I am no fair weather fan and have followed it from the beginning. I do get the show, I do like the show but I still think that this last season has definitely been the weakest so far.
My own personal opinion is that whilst this last season is not actually that bad by the standards of most television shows, it is pretty weak by the standards of Game Of Thrones. When you expect greatness, something merely ''good'' feels pretty disappointing. The reduced length of the season is also a factor, most of the plot developments of the last season would probably be more generally palatable if they took place over a longer season with more time to breathe but the breakneck pacing has definitely hurt the overall quality to me.
Some of the criticism is definitely over the top, but definitely not all of it.
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What happened to the Dothraki1
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Became demilitarized, began laying with the lamb people, made Dothraki/Westerosi babies and lived violently ever after. I don't know if they conquered their fear of the poison salt waste when they crossed over with Jorah and Dany so they could always head back to Vaes Dothrak and return to raping, pillaging and decapitationnth london addick said:What happened to the Dothraki
Something I was disappointed about is the in the books a guy called Vargo Hoat captured Jaime Lannister and someone described as "the fattest Dothraki ever seen" chopped his hand off. I'd have loved to see those two. Locke was a pretty nasty villain though0 - Sponsored links:
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The more I think about it, the more I like the ideas of the last series, it was just executed poorly . Dany is almost like Jamie in reverse, a character you like at the start but hate by the end. It's all about POV and you, the viewer, lose her as a protagonist at some point. Just like the characters in the show start to see her for the monster she really is one by one, starting with Varys and Sansa.The White walkers should have been this entire series, and Dany's turn the next one. I imagine that is how the books will be split and I can't wait to read GRRM's version.3
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Shame you can only LOL comments once!RodneyCharltonTrotta said:1 -
PWR ... Never seen it, what have I missed out on? What’s all the fuss about0
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Or maybe some just know garbage when they see it.Fiiish said:
Over the last couple of years, a trend has emerged where anything remotely popular is being mass-downvoted by gatekeepers on IMDB and RT. Then everyone else follows suit because they think they're following a trend.
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I like that idea. Might have been cool also to combine them... Dany dies, becomes the Night Queen, along with the Night King. They have two dragons, Jon has one. Could have been fun.mcgrandall said:The White walkers should have been this entire series, and Dany's turn the next one. I imagine that is how the books will be split and I can't wait to read GRRM's version.
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Garbage is a word most people would reserve for a Kevin James film, not what was a good yet flawed final season for an excellent TV series.NapaAddick said:
Or maybe some just know garbage when they see it.Fiiish said:
Over the last couple of years, a trend has emerged where anything remotely popular is being mass-downvoted by gatekeepers on IMDB and RT. Then everyone else follows suit because they think they're following a trend.
If social media didn't exist then there would be none of this hysteria. People work themselves up into hating something because other people who think they're 'true fans' form these echo chambers.
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I was thinking yesterday (I know dangerous) there is the possibility this isn't the finale, for now yes. Possible spin offs? Yes.... however it feels to me the author could have lead them in a different direction from the books so people will buy the books when they come out (if ever), who is to say a few years / 5 years they might just do some form of flash back or alternate ending on the series. Its so popular there are so many options even if a lot of the press has been poor this season.
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On the plus side, GRRM seems to have indicated that Winds of Winter should be out by July 20200
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They all attacked the white walkers, they were all gradually annihilated as their flaming swords went out, think some were resurrected when the night king did his stuff, they all shattered when he died.nth london addick said:What happened to the Dothraki
Oh and then there were a load of them left to form a part of Dany’s Army. They must have been the ones who didn’t make it to the battle against the White Walkers, or who ran away and didn’t die in the last charge of their people, or who’s ferry was delayed, or who were held back out of the first charge as a second wave, that was never used for some reason despite the fact that the whole world of the living was about to end before Arya did for the Night King.
oh and the Unsullied found a fair few stragglers an all.
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