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Jonny Williams (pg. 10 - signed??)
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i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on14
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Until the playoffs I was ambivalent. He's always a willing runner, defenders hate that, and draws so many fouls - but I didn't see enough.
I have now and think he would be a very wise signing.
TBF Bowyer has played a blinder getting him in to join us3 -
That cross for the Taylor header....0
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He’s unlucky not to have more assists, there were at least two chances he laid on a silver platter for team mates inside the 6 yard box with gaping goals that we somehow managed to miss.
If he plays games he will create chances or help get us into the position for maybe others to lay on the final ball.
The more concerning thing is his lack of goals both here and throughout his career and he hasn’t really been getting chances to score either. He seems to neither have a particularly good shot on him or an instinct for taking up good positions in the box. However, if two past masters like Jacko and Bows can’t teach him how to score more goals from midfield, no one can.
He does have his flaws but I’m astounded that people think we’ll be able to sign much better next season and we’ll need a ball carrier in midfield if Aribo leaves.16 -
The end product has been about players missing chances from him as well as Jonny's final ball.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:A frustrating player to watch - if he had more end product he'd be top class.
The game when Igor missed a header and also blocked Cullen ball on the line after JW pass summed up why Williams had so few assists.
Most fans don't realize how difficult it is too find your Rhythm straight away when you have only played a few matches over the last two years.
I believe he would love to stay if a realistic offer could be made which has options concerning Jonny's poor fitness record.2 -
Still think his final ball needs improvement, as so often he gets into great positions but nothing comes of it.soapboxsam said:
The end product has been about players missing chances from him as well as Jonny's final ball.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:A frustrating player to watch - if he had more end product he'd be top class.
The game when Igor missed a header and also blocked Cullen ball on the line after JW pass summed up why Williams had so few assists.
Most fans don't realize how difficult it is too find your Rhythm straight away when you have only played a few matches over the last two years.
I believe he would love to stay if a realistic offer could be made which has options concerning Jonny's poor fitness record.
Partially I think it's because he doesn't tend to deliver the ball early but rather keeps driving into the box. By contrast Taylor has created 2 crucial goals in the playoffs with early crosses into the box, not giving the defence time to settle and get into position
I think Williams will really improve after a season with Bowyer and Jacko though
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What sort of salary would he command?0
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I'd not really seen the hype to be honest until Sunday. However he really did have an impact by giving us some impetus and also offered an outlet with his ability to win a free kick. He did what Fosu did when he first came.
He doesn't seem to have too much end product but, that said, if he manages to win free kicks in dangerous positions then that may be good enough.
Before Sunday I wasn't particularly bothered if we lost him at the end of the season but now I'm thinking he would be a useful squad player at the very least.
Trust in Bowyer if he ever gets a contract!1 -
Class above, showed quality on the ball. sign him up please!
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CAFCDAZ said:i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
How strange... I’m 100% sure he isn't staying, I know that for a fact. We can’t afford to give him the wages he wants. Unless we get new owners soon he won’t be signing. That’s coming from one of Jonny’s best mates0 -
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Certainly not saying you’re wrong but I doubt many clubs will offer JW the sort of money he wants. He’s been injured forever and hasn’t commanded a first team place at The Valley. Went down a lot at Wembley too. His style draws lots of fouls. I don’t see whoever signs him will get a whole season out of him. He might get a Championship club take a punt other than us but I doubt that clubs are falling over to get to him at this stage. He’s happy and in a good place at Charlton. I think it might be the place for him for now.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:CAFCDAZ said:i heard late last night from someone connected to his agent that he is keen to stay, and looked likely that he would. just passing on
How strange... I’m 100% sure he isn't staying, I know that for a fact. We can’t afford to give him the wages he wants. Unless we get new owners soon he won’t be signing. That’s coming from one of Jonny’s best mates1 -
Hopefully Bowyer is in Belgium now putting pen to paper - if not, why not?0
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Never looked like a loan player. Showed urgency and desire in the play-off games and he left nothing behind on Sunday. He celebrated like it really meant something to him. Would love to see him sign for next season.5
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Williams is quality and a player I believe that Bowyer could improve him in relation to his end product. See him as a starter in our Championship line up should be sign which I very much hope he does. Seems to be a good man with an excellent attitude.
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Just to double down on what a top bloke Jonny is, my mate was playing for the university of Greenwich team last night, so was there right to the end. Said JW stayed right to the end and clapped every player as they received their medals. Then in the car park my mate thought he'd try his luck and see if JW would come to our junior football club's presentation night later in the month. JW said he'd have to contact him nearer the time, but then opened his car, got his boots from yesterday out of his kitbag, signed them and gave them to my mate's little boy!43
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Williams was without doubt, when fit, one of our star players during the run in/play offs. Great touch, vision and always has time - draws tons of fouls. What we witnessed was a a guy playing for his career. Don't think it could have worked out better for him, as his semi final and final substitute appearances showcased his ability perfectly.
I'm really interested to see how this pans out. Given his injury record, I wonder what the market thinks regarding his value/level of play - From comments above, he clearly thinks he's better than than a newly promoted Championship side. Time will tell.
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He wasn't a loan player...Cardinal Sin said:Never looked like a loan player. Showed urgency and desire in the play-off games and he left nothing behind on Sunday. He celebrated like it really meant something to him. Would love to see him sign for next season.4 -
His previous 3 seasons have seen him have Champioship loan spells with Forest, MK Dons (relegated), Ipswich and Sunderland (relegated)
That doesn't suggest to me a player on the radar of the top Championship clubs!2 -
That is classyrandy andy said:Just to double down on what a top bloke Jonny is, my mate was playing for the university of Greenwich team last night, so was there right to the end. Said JW stayed right to the end and clapped every player as they received their medals. Then in the car park my mate thought he'd try his luck and see if JW would come to our junior football club's presentation night later in the month. JW said he'd have to contact him nearer the time, but then opened his car, got his boots from yesterday out of his kitbag, signed them and gave them to my mate's little boy!5 -
struggle to see him here come start of season would like to keep him but he wants weekly football and the danger is his body you cannot rely on, he wants to get his international career back on track and playing for either of the welsh teams in the champ may get him back in the frame.0
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yeah he signed on a short term contract 6 monthsTalal said:
He wasn't a loan player...Cardinal Sin said:Never looked like a loan player. Showed urgency and desire in the play-off games and he left nothing behind on Sunday. He celebrated like it really meant something to him. Would love to see him sign for next season.0 -
Thanks for correcting me. I should have said short-term....Talal said:
He wasn't a loan player...Cardinal Sin said:Never looked like a loan player. Showed urgency and desire in the play-off games and he left nothing behind on Sunday. He celebrated like it really meant something to him. Would love to see him sign for next season.1 -
Always said he was a player who is more suited to the championship, hopefully we'll get to see that.1
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Swansea and Luton want him, apparently.
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Unless a Championship club wants to pay him silly money I think we have as good a chance of keeping him as anyone else getting him. He obviously enjoyed his time with us and the whole vibe around the playing side must be buzzing. If there’s not much in it why would he uproot ?1
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I think Williams might actually play better without Aribo (not that I want to lose the latter obviously). But losing both would be a huge blow.2
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Keeper for me (if poss). I also don't think he will get chopped as much in the Championship than L1, where it's deemed slightly more acceptable to keep hacking the same player.1
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mendonca said:Keeper for me (if poss). I also don't think he will get chopped as much in the Championship than L1, where it's deemed slightly more acceptable to keep hacking the same player.
The hacking is done by different players. It's gone on for years against dangerous players....each hacker is detailed to have a go. Williams has a rep for being made of glass, so it's a no-brainer for a lot of teams. To his credit, he does take a lot of punishment but he also does milk it a bit! PS; I really like Williams and hope we sign him up....love watching him buzz about.0
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