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Erhun Oztumer (pg.24 on loan to Bristol Rovers)

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    MaGennis from Bolton ?
    If I wanted a big lad from Bolton up front it's Peter Kay for me. Has better timing taking centre stage and if we get Oztumer as well they can be Little and Large. 
    They can do a car share from up north.
    Road to Sparrows lane, with Bob hope and no hope.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    BR7_addick said:
    cafc-west said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Anyway, Oztumer signing this week according to Vitality Charlton Twitter.
    We'll have to adapt the Solly chant - cos he really is 5ft 3".
    Seen as Bauer’s gone how about “small fuckin Turk, we’ve got a small fuckin Turk!”
    "We've got a small fucking Erhun, a Small fucking Erhun, we've got a small fucking Erhun"
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    killerandflash said:
    I worry how fit Oxtumer will be, with the shambolic pre season Bolton have had
    Fitter than Ben Reeves was I'll bet. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    i heard a rumour... erhun oztumer... came from turrrkeeyyy...
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    BR7_addick said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    The “Magennis would be a good squad player” is only an argument if we need squad players, we don’t, we need ones that will likely start. 
    Except that’s not true up front though unless you want to drop Taylor?

    Midfield yes we need starters but we also need a striker to cover Taylor and probably another CB who would start as cover for Lockyer. 
    I don’t want to drop Taylor I want a player to start next to him, we play two upfront.
    Yes but Bowyer wants two strikers. So one could play alongside Taylor and the second would indeed be cover.
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Magennis was always played as a static one man attack for Charlton whose job was to stand and chat to the two central defenders until a ball was pumped up in the general direction of towards him for him to either race the defenders to try and get or to jump high in the air to somehow miraculously take possess if it. He would inevitably lose possession and the ball would come right back at us as the opposition attacked us yet again. This tactic was often referred to as Plan A and stuck to rigidly on the assumption that even a stopped clock must be right every 12 hours.  Judging him on that tactic is a bit unfair. 
    Judging him on his entire career brings about the same conclusion though.

    He's not very good.
    A tad harsh, the hatrick he got against Bristol was proof that he can be a very good goalscorer. 
    It doesn't prove anything of the sort, it just means he had a fantastic day.

    And Bristol were the worst team I saw at The Valley all season - truly awful.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,976
    addick05 said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Magennis was always played as a static one man attack for Charlton whose job was to stand and chat to the two central defenders until a ball was pumped up in the general direction of towards him for him to either race the defenders to try and get or to jump high in the air to somehow miraculously take possess if it. He would inevitably lose possession and the ball would come right back at us as the opposition attacked us yet again. This tactic was often referred to as Plan A and stuck to rigidly on the assumption that even a stopped clock must be right every 12 hours.  Judging him on that tactic is a bit unfair. 
    Judging him on his entire career brings about the same conclusion though.

    He's not very good.
    A tad harsh, the hatrick he got against Bristol was proof that he can be a very good goalscorer. 
    It doesn't prove anything of the sort, it just means he had a fantastic day.

    And Bristol were the worst team I saw at The Valley all season - truly awful.
    We werent exactly Brazil that season either, but it just shows that when he got decent service and everything comes together, he will score goals. 

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,946
    How do you think Oztumer will play alongside Darren Purse, Hayden Mullins and Delort?
  • Lazy_eye_metaphor
    Lazy_eye_metaphor Posts: 1,959
    On the rumours thread, @Redhenry says he's signed. That's good enough confirmation for me.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    If true Bowyer and Gallen really are miracle workers getting players to sign for us under Shitweasel. 
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Love that we're signing players like this. Skilful ball-carriers with pace, bland vision. Almost like we want to fill the Joe Aribo role three times over 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,441
    blackpool72 said:
    If true Bowyer and Gallen really are miracle workers getting players to sign for us under Shitweasel. 
    Bolton is even worse!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    blackpool72 said:
    If true Bowyer and Gallen really are miracle workers getting players to sign for us under Shitweasel. 
    In general I agree, but with Oztumer I don't feel that's the case. He wasn't getting paid, he's a local lad and I doubt many Championship clubs will be after him so it's a good move for him too. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Think Williams wants to play CM
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2019
    I thought I'd do a search back in time to CL Novemeber 2016. Swissdom described Magennis as follows: workhorse. Love him, East Stand Loopy, My hero! Never leaves anything on the pitch. Battles, scraps, chases from first whistle to the last. Chases down, and wins, balls that he has no right to get to. 

    I don't disagree he has had some terrible games where his heart just didn't look in it. Particularly, his last games for us. But there is a player in there as some of us noticed at the time. Now the question is, if he worked under a good manager like Bowyer, could he be more consistent? It is a valid question, and one which nobody should dismiss as easily as some are doing. 

    I doubt we are signing him, but if we did, I would see it as an interesting one! I know if I was a defender, I wouldn't fancy an in form Taylor and Magennis to defend against!
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    edited July 2019
    Leuth said:
    I know, I know. 'Erhun' sounds like 'German' though
    No racist or xenophobic posts @Leuth

    final warning 
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I thought I'd do a search back in time to CL Novemeber 2016. Swissdom described Magennis as follows: workhorse. Love him, East Stand Loopy, My hero! Never leaves anything on the pitch. Battles, scraps, chases from first whistle to the last. Chases down, and wins, balls that he has no right to get to. 

    I don't disagree he has had some terrible games where his heart just didn't look in it. Particularly, his last games for us. But there is a player in there as some of us noticed at the time. Now the question is, if he worked under a good manager like Bowyer, could he be more consistent? It is a valid question, and one which nobody should dismiss as easily as some are doing. 

    I doubt we are signing him, but if we did, I would see it as an interesting one! I know if I was a defender, I wouldn't fancy an in form Taylor and Magennis to defend against!
    The acquisition of Magennis and Ricky Holmes breathed vital life in to a moribund team; at the start, Magennis was impressive.  Yet, he became increasingly isolated by Robinson's defensive strategy.  He is a bull of a man, and in the end I felt that a lighter, more acute touch might serve him better.


  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 741
    josh magennis use to be a goalkeeper and it shows, hard-worker and physical, but awful striker, man has 61 career goals, and his nearly 29
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    BR7_addick said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 
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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I thought I'd do a search back in time to CL Novemeber 2016. Swissdom described Magennis as follows: workhorse. Love him, East Stand Loopy, My hero! Never leaves anything on the pitch. Battles, scraps, chases from first whistle to the last. Chases down, and wins, balls that he has no right to get to. 

    I don't disagree he has had some terrible games where his heart just didn't look in it. Particularly, his last games for us. But there is a player in there as some of us noticed at the time. Now the question is, if he worked under a good manager like Bowyer, could he be more consistent? It is a valid question, and one which nobody should dismiss as easily as some are doing. 

    I doubt we are signing him, but if we did, I would see it as an interesting one! I know if I was a defender, I wouldn't fancy an in form Taylor and Magennis to defend against!
    What does an “in form Magennis” look like ? 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    wmcf123 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 
    Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I think it was more the manager than the actual formation.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    BR7_addick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 
    Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I think it was more the manager than the actual formation.
    More the players we had IMO.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Redrobo said:
    BR7_addick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 
    Whilst I agree with the sentiment, I think it was more the manager than the actual formation.
    More the players we had IMO.
    The forward and the manager IMO, Fosu, Clarke and Holmes as the trio behind were excellent at times.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    wmcf123 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 
    Because we have a completely different squad to work with. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,375
    Bowyer likes playing two strikers so I don’t see that happening.

    If you play 4-2-3-1 you need the three attacking midfielders to score and create plenty. Williams isn’t a goalscorer and none of those three have genuine pace. Taylor’s also better alongside another striker.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    edited July 2019
    Just trying to catch up with this one - sorry for being behind, is Oztumer a done deal?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    se9addick said:
    Just trying to catch up with this one - sorry for being behind, is Oztumer a done deal?
    It's not on the OS but here you go mate;

    BR7_addick 
    Anyway, Oztumer signing this week according to Vitality Charlton Twitter
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    RedChaser said:
    se9addick said:
    Just trying to catch up with this one - sorry for being behind, is Oztumer a done deal?
    It's not on the OS but here you go mate;

    BR7_addick 
    Anyway, Oztumer signing this week according to Vitality Charlton Twitter
    Ah cool - that’s good news!! Cheers
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,521
    RedHenry also suggested he’s signing this week.

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