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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Or, the most likely outcome, we get relegated and he's back to losing money.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
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soapboxsam said:Time for a House Analogy !
(I've retired from fish puns after doing 18 in one post)
When you sell your house you give the 5 kids under 15 next door £10 to go and play far far away not scream through the thin walls.
You don't show all the problems and myriad of jobs that need doing as potential buyers walk through the door or tell them they would be crazy to buy this house.
You state the unique selling points about the lovely neighbours (from hell) and the local school is top of the league table (bullshit)
Plus the reliable local train service (bullshit)
Roland Duchatelet is the worst Salesman since Gerald Ratner.
Totally crap.
This the worst salesman ever, perhaps Roland hired him?
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We won’t get relegated!jacob_CAFC said:
Or, the most likely outcome, we get relegated and he's back to losing money.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)2 -
Wasn't this a deal for a year for £600,000? So we are losing money, Hamed is not able to play for anyone whilst this is going on, and Brighton can't play him. No-one comes out of this with any good?0
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With the lowest wage budget in the league, we are statistically the most likely to go down. If Bowyer finishes in 23rd or 22nd instead of 24th, he's over achievedGreenie said:
We won’t get relegated!jacob_CAFC said:
Or, the most likely outcome, we get relegated and he's back to losing money.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
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I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)5 -
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale1
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Because that would make sense.LTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
And nothing Roland does makes sense.4 -
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
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No. Wrong. That’s a bookmakers opinion. The odds of getting promoted are not 25 / 1. In fairness they are not zero either but I’m pretty sure that promotion is highly, highly unlikely.Dazzler21 said:
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
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Hey can we all stay on topic here please, plenty of other threads for odds/managers/performance/transfers etc.
Remember this thread is just about house buying analogies and fish.7 -
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?Dazzler21 said:
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.13 -
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
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He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale2 -
Napa was nearly right then!Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
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I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
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Lol ignore the paragraph after that where the actual chances are 12.5% or 3 of 24 to be promoted. A higher chance than the bookmakers gave.ShootersHillGuru said:
No. Wrong. That’s a bookmakers opinion. The odds of getting promoted are not 25 / 1. In fairness they are not zero either but I’m pretty sure that promotion is highly, highly unlikely.Dazzler21 said:
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.0 -
If you're in a bar with two supermodels, the bouncers and security have failed.Todds_right_hook said:
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?Dazzler21 said:
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
You have 2 chances yes or no for each, so a weird anology but a 50% chance with either one.0 -
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ?Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!0 -
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.3 - Sponsored links:
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So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?CAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
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That’s a harsh comment seeing you don’t know me, I could be the face of brut 33 😂Dazzler21 said:
If you're in a bar with two supermodels, the bouncers and security have failed.Todds_right_hook said:
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?Dazzler21 said:
Incorrect.ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
You have 2 chances yes or no for each, so a weird anology but a 50% chance with either one.2 -
No he wasn't, just because that's what RD is asking for, doesn't mean it's what the club is worth, which is what Napa said.Oggy Red said:
Napa was nearly right then!Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.5 -
Didnt the Peterborough chairman tweet a day or two before it closed saying that he'd turned down bids for ToneyAddickted said:
So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?CAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
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Where was that? I understood it was a case of Toney in, Taylor outCAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.0 -
Find it hard to believe we were going to pay a fee for Toney and keep Taylor.J BLOCK said:
Where was that? I understood it was a case of Toney in, Taylor outCAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.0 -
N01R4M said:
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ?Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
Spoke to an ex player recently who said a group (which involved a CAFC fan) had spoken to RD and offered £45m
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when we were coincidentally fending off numerous bids from Brentford for Taylor? We may have initially bid say 2m for Toney with the Djiksteel money but later bids were with the intention of using money from the Taylor sale.Addickted said:
So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?CAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
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Ask yourself this.CAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Who told Bowyer that was the case?2 -
Money's on DoucherT_C_E said:
Ask yourself this.CAFCBell said:
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.LTKapal said:
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.Taxi_Lad said:
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was soldLTKapal said:I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Who told Bowyer that was the case?4
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