Time for a House Analogy ! (I've retired from fish puns after doing 18 in one post)
When you sell your house you give the 5 kids under 15 next door £10 to go and play far far away not scream through the thin walls. You don't show all the problems and myriad of jobs that need doing as potential buyers walk through the door or tell them they would be crazy to buy this house. You state the unique selling points about the lovely neighbours (from hell) and the local school is top of the league table (bullshit) Plus the reliable local train service (bullshit)
Roland Duchatelet is the worst Salesman since Gerald Ratner.
Totally crap.
This the worst salesman ever, perhaps Roland hired him?
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
Or, the most likely outcome, we get relegated and he's back to losing money.
Wasn't this a deal for a year for £600,000? So we are losing money, Hamed is not able to play for anyone whilst this is going on, and Brighton can't play him. No-one comes out of this with any good?
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
Or, the most likely outcome, we get relegated and he's back to losing money.
We won’t get relegated!
With the lowest wage budget in the league, we are statistically the most likely to go down. If Bowyer finishes in 23rd or 22nd instead of 24th, he's over achieved
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
Because that would make sense. And nothing Roland does makes sense.
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
No. Wrong. That’s a bookmakers opinion. The odds of getting promoted are not 25 / 1. In fairness they are not zero either but I’m pretty sure that promotion is highly, highly unlikely.
Hey can we all stay on topic here please, plenty of other threads for odds/managers/performance/transfers etc. Remember this thread is just about house buying analogies and fish.
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
No. Wrong. That’s a bookmakers opinion. The odds of getting promoted are not 25 / 1. In fairness they are not zero either but I’m pretty sure that promotion is highly, highly unlikely.
Lol ignore the paragraph after that where the actual chances are 12.5% or 3 of 24 to be promoted. A higher chance than the bookmakers gave.
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?
If you're in a bar with two supermodels, the bouncers and security have failed.
You have 2 chances yes or no for each, so a weird anology but a 50% chance with either one.
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ? According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?
The Rat is on a win win ATM. He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money! Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.
Incorrect.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
Does that mean if I’m in a bar with two supermodels, there is a 50% chance of me sleeping with one of them?
If you're in a bar with two supermodels, the bouncers and security have failed.
You have 2 chances yes or no for each, so a weird anology but a 50% chance with either one.
That’s a harsh comment seeing you don’t know me, I could be the face of brut 33 😂
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Napa was nearly right then!
No he wasn't, just because that's what RD is asking for, doesn't mean it's what the club is worth, which is what Napa said.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?
Didnt the Peterborough chairman tweet a day or two before it closed saying that he'd turned down bids for Toney
Definitely dont think we only bid on deadline day for him
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
Where was that? I understood it was a case of Toney in, Taylor out
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
Where was that? I understood it was a case of Toney in, Taylor out
Find it hard to believe we were going to pay a fee for Toney and keep Taylor.
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ? According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
Spoke to an ex player recently who said a group (which involved a CAFC fan) had spoken to RD and offered £45m
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
So why did we make a bid for him only on the last day of the transfer window?
when we were coincidentally fending off numerous bids from Brentford for Taylor? We may have initially bid say 2m for Toney with the Djiksteel money but later bids were with the intention of using money from the Taylor sale.
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
Ask yourself this. Who told Bowyer that was the case?
I still can't understand that surely before accumulating more losses why he wouldn't put the 4million he was potentially investing into toney into the directors loans for a quicker sale
He wasn’t putting 4m in. He was merely allowing LB to reinvest if Taylor was sold
I thought it was said somewhere that toney was intended as Taylors partner.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
Bowyer himself has stated Toney was to play upfront with Taylor.
Ask yourself this. Who told Bowyer that was the case?
Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance. None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ? According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
Spoke to an ex player recently who said a group (which involved a CAFC fan) had spoken to RD and offered £45m
He turned it down
I heard similar from an unreliable source.: - )
£45m is way too much but still he wants more and more. He still wants the add ons, the sell ons, the old directors paid off.
And when he doesn't get it he blames the fans, the EFL, everyone but his greedy irrational self.
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And nothing Roland does makes sense.
TalkSport had us at 25/1 to be promoted... That's a 4% chance of promotion at least.
Three teams will be promoted from the Championship which 3/24 is around a 12.5% chance of promotion.
Remember this thread is just about house buying analogies and fish.
Whether true or not is a different matter.
You have 2 chances yes or no for each, so a weird anology but a 50% chance with either one.
According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
Definitely dont think we only bid on deadline day for him
Spoke to an ex player recently who said a group (which involved a CAFC fan) had spoken to RD and offered £45m
He turned it down
Who told Bowyer that was the case?
£45m is way too much but still he wants more and more. He still wants the add ons, the sell ons, the old directors paid off.
And when he doesn't get it he blames the fans, the EFL, everyone but his greedy irrational self.