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Lyle Taylor penalties

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  • My take...I don’t think it’s anything about psyching out the keeper but everything to do with Lyle being an extrovert, wanting to be unique and put his stamp on it.

    its working as 1. He’s scoring and 2. its starting to generate the attention he craves (imo). he is being recognised for it. 

    I don't personally like it, it makes me too nervous and I think he’ll look a tit when it doesn’t work, but he too will know that so I admire his confidence to put himself up there to be knocked down. Nothing wrong with having a striker with natural confidence / arrogance.  
    Interesting take on things and I think it’s probably on the money.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,274
    My take...I don’t think it’s anything about psyching out the keeper but everything to do with Lyle being an extrovert, wanting to be unique and put his stamp on it.

    its working as 1. He’s scoring and 2. its starting to generate the attention he craves (imo). he is being recognised for it. 

    I don't personally like it, it makes me too nervous and I think he’ll look a tit when it doesn’t work, but he too will know that so I admire his confidence to put himself up there to be knocked down. Nothing wrong with having a striker with natural confidence / arrogance.  
    I think there’s an element of this but still believe it’s primarily psyching out the keeper. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,468
    Jeeees. The negative and judgemental brigade are out today! 

    There's more logic to Lyle's style than that awful pretend slow mo jog that Pogba does.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,399
    It’s a slower motion version of yoni buyens psyche out with keepers 
    but yesterday Lyle slipped on his standing foot as he struck it , just got away with it thankfully 
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,219
    Would piss me off if I was the oppo.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,280
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
  • Don’t really care how he takes his pens...if the ball hits the back of the net...happy days...yep it winds up the oppo...yep it makes us lot nervous ,everyone misses pens either too soft, easily saved, misplaced or blasted wide or high...pretty sure when Lyle misses one doing it HIS style...there will be some from here on his back,I’m sure some people want him to fail, just to say “ I told ya so” ,let Lyle be Lyle, enjoy it, (whilst chewing them nails on the long long walk up)...cause he might not be with us for too long....

    pray that he is tho...🙏
  • bristoladdick
    bristoladdick Posts: 1,156
    edited August 2019
    My take...I don’t think it’s anything about psyching out the keeper but everything to do with Lyle being an extrovert, wanting to be unique and put his stamp on it.

    its working as 1. He’s scoring and 2. its starting to generate the attention he craves (imo). he is being recognised for it. 

    I don't personally like it, it makes me too nervous and I think he’ll look a tit when it doesn’t work, but he too will know that so I admire his confidence to put himself up there to be knocked down. Nothing wrong with having a striker with natural confidence / arrogance.  
    It took Yann a while to live down his fluffed panenka penalty. Still, happy so far!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,810
    I can’t wait to see him extend it by starting his walk up from the halfway line and go on to score the winner against Millwall.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,173
    Perhaps he changed it because he missed some last season

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  • It works for him,so there you go.Sooner or later he will miss one and will get slaughtered,meanwhile lets just enjoy it.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Its like Marmite.

    Most love it and think its great but as soon as he misses one the "blast down the middle" brigade will be lining up to shoot him down 
  • I also think opposition fans silently must be impressed, but obviously don’t show it.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    Im pretty sure he’s got the pills to deal with a couple of misses too. 
    Yeah, Taylor might have ...... but those penalties are the one thing that Bowyer worries about. :smile:


  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,735
    I know it's not the primary reason he does it but it's a great way to eat up the clock.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    I know it's not the primary reason he does it but it's a great way to eat up the clock.
    Not a great way to "eat up the clock" in the 89th minute if he misses!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,578
    Oggy Red said:
    I know it's not the primary reason he does it but it's a great way to eat up the clock.
    Not a great way to "eat up the clock" in the 89th minute if he misses!
    How many has he missed since his new slow walk style? 
  • Crusty54 said:
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
    What game was Cullen playing in last Tuesday?
  • Crusty54 said:
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
    What game was Cullen playing in last Tuesday?
    Must have meant either Morgan or Forster-Caskey
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited August 2019
    Crusty54 said:
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
    What game was Cullen playing in last Tuesday?
    Really? ;)

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,578
    Crusty54 said:
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
    What game was Cullen playing in last Tuesday?
    Must have meant either Morgan or Forster-Caskey
    JFC as Morgan's penalty was belted but wide.
  • stonemuse said:
    My take...I don’t think it’s anything about psyching out the keeper but everything to do with Lyle being an extrovert, wanting to be unique and put his stamp on it.

    its working as 1. He’s scoring and 2. its starting to generate the attention he craves (imo). he is being recognised for it. 

    I don't personally like it, it makes me too nervous and I think he’ll look a tit when it doesn’t work, but he too will know that so I admire his confidence to put himself up there to be knocked down. Nothing wrong with having a striker with natural confidence / arrogance.  
    I think there’s an element of this but still believe it’s primarily psyching out the keeper. 
    Agree with this... He was able to stroke it into the net against Barnsley because it looks as though he makes the Goalkeeper dive before he strikes the ball

    The one he scored in the shootout (v Doncaster) had a little bit more power as the Goalkeeper stayed on his feet longer (well he didnt dive at all)
  • Addickted said:
    Crusty54 said:
    Chizz said:
    Would there be an advantage in not taking a run up at all?  

    If the player placed his standing foot next to the ball and paused in his backlift, he could place the ball inside whichever post he chose and the keeper would have no time to start his dive.  When you run up to the ball, the keeper is given all the information he needs to be able to tell exactly when the kick will be taken and can "time" his dive appropriately.  But if you don't give him that information - ie by not running up - surely you would guarantee scoring, even if the keeper guesses the right way, because his timing would be "out". 
    That is more or less what Cullen did last Tuesday night. No real impact on the ball.
    What game was Cullen playing in last Tuesday?
    Really?
    Really what? Wasn't aware Cullen was playing last Tuesday.

    If it's JFC penalty that's being referred to it was nothing like Taylor's penalty. JFC hit it with no conviction or confidence and I think the keeper was clear of the direction.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    edited August 2019

     JFC hit it with no conviction or confidence and I think the keeper was clear of the direction.
    Yeah, agree ...... straight out of the Michael Gray manual, "How to miss a penalty at Wembley".


  • Rufus is a dogs name
    Rufus is a dogs name Posts: 1,527
    edited August 2019
    Taylor's penalty from Saturday has been picked up in Spain by Marca's Twitter account (5m followers...!). The caption translates as:

    'The longest penalty in the world: he is going to throw it while receiving the boos of the stadium ... and this happens. What a cold blood!'


  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2019
    What is slightly bizarre is that Lyle's been taking his penalties the same way for months!

    (Other clubs know, it's obvious, as shown by the Barnsley player trying to stand in his way to put him off.)

    Suddenly, it's become global news!
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,703
    Oh great, so we'll be fighting off Barca and Real come January! Aaaagh - or worse - their transfer window is still open!!
  • What is slightly bizarre is that Lyle's been taking his penalties the same way for months!

    (Other clubs know, it's obvious, as shown by the Barnsley player trying to stand in his way to put him off.)

    Suddenly, it's become global news!
    Championship probably gets a lot more global coverage than League One though
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,692
    The Sky clip of his penalty v Doncaster in The Play-offs has over 5 million views on YouTube.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,787
    The Sky clip of his penalty v Doncaster in The Play-offs has over 5 million views on YouTube.
    They used Pogba’s name for clickbait. Taylor’s penalties are better than Pogba’s anyway. At least Lyle’s unique run-up serves a purpose, unlike Pogba who does it solely for the attention