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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Haddock said:
    Fancy a lift share? Where in Gloucestershire are you? Im getting to a few games from my base in deepest darkest Newent...
    Could do - we're in Tewkesbury. Although we usually take the Oxford Tube and then Underground/DLR rather than drive all the way in.
    My mate (Charlton supporting) lives in Tewkesbury.
    We should start the Gloucestershire branch


    I'd pop along to that too as I'm near Gloucester  :)
  • Going into an exam tomorrow, approx 4 hours with no contact to the outside world, praying for some good news when I finish about 5pm.
    Sorry. 'Crackerjack!' won't be back until next year.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    edited December 2019
    TEL said:
    Lee Amis is on here, and he is a current visitor. 

    I met him once, I think around the the time the Spivs took over. Deffo a Charlton fan. 

    He said one thing to me that I didn't like the sound of "Every bid will be a property play".

    Having said that he is (or was) a property guy himself. And every property guy I have ever met seems to have the attitude that monetising property is more important even than procreation.

    But then again, if these guys are the real deal ( by which I mean competitive funding at Championship level for the next 2 years) and Lee brought them to the table, then we all owe him a pint. 
    Ive always believed that it would always be a possibility that any takeover would be subject to moving away from the Valley....we know the spivs wanted to, I think Duchatelet thought he could pull it off or if not redevelop the Valley as per St Trudien so Ive no reason to think the new mob being Investors would be thinking anything different. It was interesting watching Nimer being interviewed as most of what he said was about "green" investing and I took that to be agricultrally based, so how that fits with a SE London football club I dont know.

    If these people have big plans for the club, the Valley being hemmed in on all sides will be problematic if they are thinking of what Arsenal and Spurs have done in recent years ( I wont lower the tone by mentioning what happened across the Thames). Im as emotionally attached as any true red blooded Charlton Fan to our home, the Valley.

    However putting aside all emotion (and that is difficult in itself), the position of the Valley isnt great if you think of transport and infrastructure and going forwards relocating to somewhere with better transport links, adequate parking etc would make a lot of sense for a seriously wealthy and ambitious owner. It can be pain in the arse to park at Charlton, I think most of us have had a few break ins with cars etc and the rail service is pretty inadequate.

    Its  our home and we fought hard to get it back, you being one of the leading lights in that fight, but maybe a new stadium would make sense......on a much smaller scale I was mega impressed with the location and facilities at Doncaster...yeah for sure the stadium itself was a bit souless, but you couldnt really fault the surrounds and links to motorways, parking, food etc.

    Anyway, Im not advocating a move away, just playing devils advocate...I think we all need to realise that in todays modern progressive world it could be a possibility.
    Transport links poor.....???  The ground is less than 5 mins from the bloody railway station that takes you into the centre of London in 10 mins ffs.!!  Try going on Saturday to Middlesborough & see how close their stadium is to transport links & the city centre. Or Swansea/Derby/Leicester. All new grounds built away from the city centre & main transport links. NO thanks. Prefer our ground just where it is. May be a bugger to park but its historic. 
    Leicester is in the city centre with zero transport problems.
  • TEL said:
    Lee Amis is on here, and he is a current visitor. 

    I met him once, I think around the the time the Spivs took over. Deffo a Charlton fan. 

    He said one thing to me that I didn't like the sound of "Every bid will be a property play".

    Having said that he is (or was) a property guy himself. And every property guy I have ever met seems to have the attitude that monetising property is more important even than procreation.

    But then again, if these guys are the real deal ( by which I mean competitive funding at Championship level for the next 2 years) and Lee brought them to the table, then we all owe him a pint. 
    Ive always believed that it would always be a possibility that any takeover would be subject to moving away from the Valley....we know the spivs wanted to, I think Duchatelet thought he could pull it off or if not redevelop the Valley as per St Trudien so Ive no reason to think the new mob being Investors would be thinking anything different. It was interesting watching Nimer being interviewed as most of what he said was about "green" investing and I took that to be agricultrally based, so how that fits with a SE London football club I dont know.

    If these people have big plans for the club, the Valley being hemmed in on all sides will be problematic if they are thinking of what Arsenal and Spurs have done in recent years ( I wont lower the tone by mentioning what happened across the Thames). Im as emotionally attached as any true red blooded Charlton Fan to our home, the Valley.

    However putting aside all emotion (and that is difficult in itself), the position of the Valley isnt great if you think of transport and infrastructure and going forwards relocating to somewhere with better transport links, adequate parking etc would make a lot of sense for a seriously wealthy and ambitious owner. It can be pain in the arse to park at Charlton, I think most of us have had a few break ins with cars etc and the rail service is pretty inadequate.

    Its  our home and we fought hard to get it back, you being one of the leading lights in that fight, but maybe a new stadium would make sense......on a much smaller scale I was mega impressed with the location and facilities at Doncaster...yeah for sure the stadium itself was a bit souless, but you couldnt really fault the surrounds and links to motorways, parking, food etc.

    Anyway, Im not advocating a move away, just playing devils advocate...I think we all need to realise that in todays modern progressive world it could be a possibility.
    Transport links poor.....???  The ground is less than 5 mins from the bloody railway station that takes you into the centre of London in 10 mins ffs.!!  Try going on Saturday to Middlesborough & see how close their stadium is to transport links & the city centre. Or Swansea/Derby/Leicester. All new grounds built away from the city centre & main transport links. NO thanks. Prefer our ground just where it is. May be a bugger to park but its historic. 


    The Valley was always generally stated by other than our own supporters as not good with transport link because there was no Tube Line.    This was also at the time when roads like the A2 were slow and still needed improving.  
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    One of my daughters is off on an expedition to Nepal, she just landed for a stop over in Abu Dhabi.  If I had known I would have got her a top printed with "All of Charlton Athletic thanks you for saving us." 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    EFL interviews include them speaking to Roland.

    Matt Southall tried to buy us as part of a consortium in 2010.

    Cawley confirms ESI want to sign Cullen permanently.

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/matt-southall-tried-to-buy-charlton-athletic-before-esi-keen-on-deal-for-west-ham-united-midfielder/
  • Scoham said:
    EFL interviews include them speaking to Roland.

    Matt Southall tried to buy us as part of a consortium in 2010.

    Cawley confirms ESI want to sign Cullen permanently.

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/matt-southall-tried-to-buy-charlton-athletic-before-esi-keen-on-deal-for-west-ham-united-midfielder/
    Does anyone remember this consortium in 2010?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    And some people bleat about the Aussie bid dragging on for two years.

    Assume this was the Jonathan Sainsbury bid in 2010 that also involved Lee Amis

    Interview with Duchatelet?  "Huh 1.5%, huh, none of it's my fault"

    Good news about Cullen
  • Going into an exam tomorrow, approx 4 hours with no contact to the outside world, praying for some good news when I finish about 5pm.
    Sorry. 'Crackerjack!' won't be back until next year.
    Crackerjack...some things you never forget to do. Younger Addicks who don’t get the post can look away 
  • And some people bleat about the Aussie bid dragging on for two years.

    Assume this was the Jonathan Sainsbury bid in 2010 that also involved Lee Amis

    Interview with Duchatelet?  "Huh 1.5%, huh, none of it's my fault"

    Good news about Cullen
    Was wondering if it was the Sainsbury bid 
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited December 2019
    Yeah. Ask the most unfit and improper person you ever previously interviewed for his take on it!

    Oh dear.
  • I wonder why the EFL speak to the outgoing owner? 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Yeah. Ask the most unfit and improper person you ever previously interviewed and ask him for his take on it!

    Oh dear.
    So Rolly, is this guy who has made good all the money you lost OK?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I wonder why the EFL speak to the outgoing owner? 
    Says it’s just part of the process.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Hopefully that’s just to tick a box and will go something like 

    EFL: “hello, is that Roland”

    Roland: ”huh”

    EFL: *puts phone down*
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    He will simply say that the EFL are fools for not buying the club off him and that they will regret it 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I wonder why the EFL speak to the outgoing owner? 
    I think it’s just standard procedure. He will want the sale done quickly so he can afford some new shoes and visit to the hygienist.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    It isn't so much that we are impatient. It is more that it isn't done until it is done and we have experience of kicks in the teeth!
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,737
    I wonder why the EFL speak to the outgoing owner? 
    They just need to double check his exit strategy. 
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    And some people bleat about the Aussie bid dragging on for two years.

    Assume this was the Jonathan Sainsbury bid in 2010 that also involved Lee Amis

    Interview with Duchatelet?  "Huh 1.5%, huh, none of it's my fault"

    Good news about Cullen
    It's not the time taken, as much as the scarves taken
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  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    And some people bleat about the Aussie bid dragging on for two years.

    Assume this was the Jonathan Sainsbury bid in 2010 that also involved Lee Amis

    Interview with Duchatelet?  "Huh 1.5%, huh, none of it's my fault"

    Good news about Cullen
    Sebastian Sainsbury was the main man wasn't he?
  • Going into an exam tomorrow, approx 4 hours with no contact to the outside world, praying for some good news when I finish about 5pm.
    Sorry. 'Crackerjack!' won't be back until next year.
    Crackerjack...some things you never forget to do. Younger Addicks who don’t get the post can look away 
    Never a fan of Crackerjack. HOW was my TV opiate. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Pedro45 said:
    And some people bleat about the Aussie bid dragging on for two years.

    Assume this was the Jonathan Sainsbury bid in 2010 that also involved Lee Amis

    Interview with Duchatelet?  "Huh 1.5%, huh, none of it's my fault"

    Good news about Cullen
    Sebastian Sainsbury was the main man wasn't he?
    Just imagine all the nectar points the club could have got......
  • Anyone know how long the EFL took to approve and sign off on Roly's takeover? It all seemed to be very quick from what i remember.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Anyone know how long the EFL took to approve and sign off on Roly's takeover? It all seemed to be very quick from what i remember.
    Not long enough! 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    Anyone know how long the EFL took to approve and sign off on Roly's takeover? It all seemed to be very quick from what i remember.
    I believe they interviewed him, couldn't understand a word he was saying, lost the will to live and rubber stamped it just to get rid of him.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Anyone know how long the EFL took to approve and sign off on Roly's takeover? It all seemed to be very quick from what i remember.
    Earlier on in the thread someone said that RD taking over the club was announced Friday 27th Dec, he then was the owner Friday Jan 3rd, so that was 7 days from the announcement. So it could be today I suppose if it follows the same pattern?

  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Anyone know how long the EFL took to approve and sign off on Roly's takeover? It all seemed to be very quick from what i remember.
    Earlier on in the thread someone said that RD taking over the club was announced Friday 27th Dec, he then was the owner Friday Jan 3rd, so that was 7 days from the announcement. So it could be today I suppose if it follows the same pattern?

    Depends what sort of state Roland is leaving the club in and what comes out of his mouth is true. You can bet your bottom dollar that any hold up will be down to him. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    The tests previously were a couple of forms and self-certifying you weren't dodgy, and the EFL have beefed it up because of the complaints, if it takes longer to get a better decision, then so be it
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