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  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited December 2019
    mart77 said:
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
    Ofcourse it had nothing to do with ESI even if the offer was last week, until the are officially incharge they cant put offers to players or management.

    So even if a contract was offered in the last 2 weeks ofcourse it would be rejected, because you know with new owners on the horizon you will get a much better offer if you wait a few weeks
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vincenzo said:
    Very odd behaviour from Lyle.

    He's a hundred percenter on the pitch every game. Everyone who's met him says what a great guy he is. But he appears to be broadcasting porkies and being disruptive to the club.
     Once more fan assumptions are shit and false.

    Lyle has not been offered a new contract since the start of the season.
    Says who.

    Bowyer the other day said he has rejected a contract on improved terms.

    The thing is it was offered by RD so probably still not what he will be offered elsewhere hence why he rejected.

    Lets see what he is offered when the takeover finally goes through
     Says Bowyer in his post match interview

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Don’t like to say......

    Whatever.

    Just enjoy the day..
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited December 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vincenzo said:
    Very odd behaviour from Lyle.

    He's a hundred percenter on the pitch every game. Everyone who's met him says what a great guy he is. But he appears to be broadcasting porkies and being disruptive to the club.
     Once more fan assumptions are shit and false.

    Lyle has not been offered a new contract since the start of the season.
    Says who.

    Bowyer the other day said he has rejected a contract on improved terms.

    The thing is it was offered by RD so probably still not what he will be offered elsewhere hence why he rejected.

    Lets see what he is offered when the takeover finally goes through
     Says Bowyer in his post match interview

    Not strictly true, you say he hasnt been offered a contract since the start of the season.

    Bowyer says the contract wass offered 2-3 months ago, seasom started over 4 months ago, so it was after the season started.

    Also most of what has been written over the last few days was based on everyone thinking he had rejected a contract within the last few weeks which is because they were crossed wires, so your comment about fan assumption being Shit and False is out of order IMO

    Even your initial comment was to something someone said yesterday before Bowyer clarified the comments today, so when the post was made yesterday we still all believed that taylor had recently rejected a contract as thats what we were told
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    mart77 said:
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
    Ofcourse it had nothing to do with ESI even if the offer was last week, until the are officially incharge they cant put offers to players or management.

    So even if a contract was offered in the last 2 weeks ofcourse it would be rejected, because you know with new owners on the horizon you will get a much better offer if you wait a few weeks
    But he hasn't been offered a contract in months. Full stop. He hasn't rejected anything since he got his last offer months ago.

    So no Lyle has not been offered anything new so is not lying and Cawley was incorrect in his assumption about what Bow meant.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Game, set and match to Dazzler on this.

    Lot of Charlton fans desperate to slag off one of our star players for no reason.

    Weird meaning weird.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Did Roland offer to halve his wages?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Did Roland offer to halve his wages?

    Be a good reason to like Rangers
  • Just read 5 or 6 pages of this

    Bizarre Lyle bashing 

    Just wait and see what happens if/when deal goes through 
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Game, set and match to Dazzler on this.

    Lot of Charlton fans desperate to slag off one of our star players for no reason.

    Weird meaning weird.
    Going back a few pages, I don't see many slagging him off. There are some who are critical of some of the things he gets up to on Twitter, myself included. I also brought up the proposed deal over the summer of swapping Taylor for Toney, a player 6 years younger who I thought (wrongly) would cost less. Also, that's a deal that apparently was never on, as Bows later said they wanted Toney to play with Taylor. But if given the choice now, for that money for a player turning 30, and knowing I could get a good replacement six years younger, yeah, I'd be tempted (again, we can't get Toney for that money so it's moot). 

    But I don't think anyone has questioned Taylor's ability. And I don't think anyone questions his workrate on the pitch. But per AB, Taylor was, it sounds, being somewhat less than truthful on Twitter about his contract situation. 

    Also, I don't really blame him either rejecting an RD offer or wanting more money. In fact, in a short career mostly spent in the lower leagues, if I were him I'd encourage him to get as much as he can. I would just...probably keep contract negotiations off Twitter. 
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited December 2019
    Lyle Taylor is a great player, terrific work rate & the goals really make a difference to Charlton. Clearly a big character with a big ego & great belief in himself. A good thing for a striker running out in front of thousands of people to play football.

    For me, the Twitter stuff is misguided -  Lyle Taylor is entitled to express his opinion, but is it really worth all the aggro ? Lyle Taylor does some great charity work. Clearly there are more constructive things to do then wasting time on Twitter.  The Day job is football & Lyle Taylor is excellent at that.

    Louis Mendez on the astute & balanced discussion on Charlton Live raised that there is a potential for Lyle Taylor to stay. It’s a contract negotiation. Lyle wants a decent contract offer - it’s a short career & he has had previous14 clubs mostly at a lower level. I don’t begrudge that. If that happens, I hope it is somewhere where he will actually play & not do a Ricky Holmes & go somewhere where he sits on the bench.

    You never know. Hopefully takeover happens & Lyle can get to hear the ambitions for the club. He gets a competitive & decent contract offer & can consider to stay.

    Goal scorers are not that easy to come by. It would be worth the money as his goals can keep Charlton in the Championship. Maybe with the takeover, Charlton can push on for a shot at the Premiership next season. That could be an attractive proposition for him.
  • Would be a great shame if he left but I wouldn't blame him. Need to sort out the takeover.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited December 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
    Ofcourse it had nothing to do with ESI even if the offer was last week, until the are officially incharge they cant put offers to players or management.

    So even if a contract was offered in the last 2 weeks ofcourse it would be rejected, because you know with new owners on the horizon you will get a much better offer if you wait a few weeks
    But he hasn't been offered a contract in months. Full stop. He hasn't rejected anything since he got his last offer months ago.

    So no Lyle has not been offered anything new so is not lying and Cawley was incorrect in his assumption about what Bow meant.
    Do you really think Rich Cawley, a very experienced Charlton reporter,  made an “incorrect assumption” when he talks to Lee Bowyer privately a couple of times a week, every week? I don’t.


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
    Ofcourse it had nothing to do with ESI even if the offer was last week, until the are officially incharge they cant put offers to players or management.

    So even if a contract was offered in the last 2 weeks ofcourse it would be rejected, because you know with new owners on the horizon you will get a much better offer if you wait a few weeks
    But he hasn't been offered a contract in months. Full stop. He hasn't rejected anything since he got his last offer months ago.

    So no Lyle has not been offered anything new so is not lying and Cawley was incorrect in his assumption about what Bow meant.
    Do you really think Rich Cawley, a very experienced Charlton reporter,  made an “incorrect assumption” when he talks to Lee Bowyer privately a couple of times a week, every week? I don’t.


    Given Bowyer clarified that the latest contract Lyle has received was months ago, on this occasion it is plausible.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Bowyer has said the deal offered to Taylor was 2/3 months ago and nothing to do with ESI
    Ofcourse it had nothing to do with ESI even if the offer was last week, until the are officially incharge they cant put offers to players or management.

    So even if a contract was offered in the last 2 weeks ofcourse it would be rejected, because you know with new owners on the horizon you will get a much better offer if you wait a few weeks
    But he hasn't been offered a contract in months. Full stop. He hasn't rejected anything since he got his last offer months ago.

    So no Lyle has not been offered anything new so is not lying and Cawley was incorrect in his assumption about what Bow meant.
    Do you really think Rich Cawley, a very experienced Charlton reporter,  made an “incorrect assumption” when he talks to Lee Bowyer privately a couple of times a week, every week? I don’t.


    I do.
  • Redrobo said:
    Don’t like to say......

    Whatever.

    Just enjoy the day..
    Agreed.

    Bowyer says one thing, Taylor says another.

    Somebody is being conservative with the truth, the fans will never know.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Redrobo said:
    Don’t like to say......

    Whatever.

    Just enjoy the day..
    Agreed.

    Bowyer says one thing, Taylor says another.

    Somebody is being conservative with the truth, the fans will never know.
    Bowyer has clarified. That's enough for me.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Redrobo said:
    Don’t like to say......

    Whatever.

    Just enjoy the day..
    Agreed.

    Bowyer says one thing, Taylor says another.

    Somebody is being conservative with the truth, the fans will never know.
    Bowyer has clarified. That's enough for me.
    Does this mean that Taylor is telling porkies?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited December 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    Redrobo said:
    Don’t like to say......

    Whatever.

    Just enjoy the day..
    Agreed.

    Bowyer says one thing, Taylor says another.

    Somebody is being conservative with the truth, the fans will never know.
    Bowyer has clarified. That's enough for me.
    Does this mean that Taylor is telling porkies?
    No. It means that Lyle has not been offered a new contract recently. The last offer was months ago. He has not recently declined a contract, because none have been offered... Recently.
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  • It´s all so confusing.
  • I think Richard Cawley was clearly misleading with his article, clickbait at its finest. 
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    edited December 2019
    I've been trying to ignore this. I don't follow Lyle on Twitter (or anyone else famous for that matter) and this has entirely justified me. FFS, grown men getting all excited and wanting to off load the best striker we have had for years on the basis of stuff he writes on social media? Grow up! Or even better, get off the old mobile once in a while. If you unfollow Taylor on twitter, and just go to games, you'll find it gives a different perspective.

    If Taylor genuinely want's out (and I have seen nothing to suggest this) he can be sold in january or leave for free in june. There is obviously no point in having an unhappy player. But we have a takeover in the offing so he may get an offer he can go with.

    On the other hand, there are a bunch of simpletons on the web throwing abuse at him for percieved insults, and even worse, a couple of moron's went round his house post match one game. I mean, who the fuck does that? (Stalkers, that's who).

    Sadly Lyle would be better getting off social media, but thr problem doesn't stem from him, but a bunch of sad acts who through the new technology of today, seem to think they can send insults through the web. It's a sad state of affairs when people over the age of 10 behave this way.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    I've been trying to ignore this. I don't follow Lyle on Twitter (or anyone else famous for that matter) and this has entirely justified me. FFS, grown men getting all excited and wanting to off load the best striker we have had for years on the basis of stuff he writes on social media? Grow up! Or even better, get off the old mobile once in a while. If you unfollow Taylor on twitter, and just go to games, you'll find it gives a different perspective.

    If Taylor genuinely want's out (and I have seen nothing to suggest this) he can be sold in january or leave for free in june. There is obviously no point in having an unhappy player. But we have a takeover in the offing so he may get an offer he can go with.

    On the other hand, there are a bunch of simpletons on the web throwing abuse at him for percieved insults, and even worse, a couple of moron's went round his house post match one game. I mean, who the fuck does that? (Stalkers, that's who).

    Sadly Lyle would be better getting off social media, but thr problem doesn't stem from him, but a bunch of sad acts who through the new technology of today, seem to think they can send insults through the web. It's a sad state of affairs when people over the age of 10 behave this way.
    People wanting him sold because he didn't support their chosen political party was another embarrassing insight into our fanbase.
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    edited December 2019
    I think Richard Cawley was clearly misleading with his article, clickbait at its finest. 
    Not sure this is fair. 

    Story was reported at the start of October that contract discussions were ongoing between the club and Taylor https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-lyle-taylor-talks-about-his-charlton-athletic-contract-situation-and-summer-transfer-bids/

    Bowyer then this week, for the first time, went on the record and said that Taylor had turned down a contract offer from Roland. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    LouisMend said:
    I think Richard Cawley was clearly misleading with his article, clickbait at its finest. 
    Not sure this is fair. 

    Story was reported at the start of October that contract discussions were ongoing between the club and Taylor https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-lyle-taylor-talks-about-his-charlton-athletic-contract-situation-and-summer-transfer-bids/

    Bowyer then this week, for the first time, went on the record and said that Taylor had turned down a contract offer from Roland. 
    Agreed. Either Taylor has been offered a new deal which would keep him at the club after June or he hasn’t. There is no “it’s an old offer” or “we didn’t mean that offer”.

    On what planet is RD making another offer in November when he thinks he is selling the club? On what planet does Rich think that is the case when he is in a constant dialogue with Bowyer. 



  • It’s just shown the absolute worst of people this whole episode.
    Let it be a lesson, step away from Twitter once & awhile. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Can we just leave it at this: 

    “I (Bowyer) spoke to Lyle on Thursday, and Lyle did get offered a contract from Roland, but declined that from Roland.

    “There was a bit of confusion regarding the new party (ESI) and Matt (Southall.

    “Maybe he thought someone was talking about that, but it’s not important, the most important thing is Lyle gets back playing and scoring goals and whatever his future holds, will hold.

    “Lyle is important to us, so if we can keep him then that will only benefit us as a football club.”

    That's it. No more guessing who said what and why.


  • CharltonByBlood
    CharltonByBlood Posts: 1,900
    edited December 2019
    LouisMend said:
    I think Richard Cawley was clearly misleading with his article, clickbait at its finest. 
    Not sure this is fair. 

    Story was reported at the start of October that contract discussions were ongoing between the club and Taylor https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-lyle-taylor-talks-about-his-charlton-athletic-contract-situation-and-summer-transfer-bids/

    Bowyer then this week, for the first time, went on the record and said that Taylor had turned down a contract offer from Roland. 
    But if it was not misleading why has Bowyer had to come out and make it clear? 


  • LouisMend said:
    I think Richard Cawley was clearly misleading with his article, clickbait at its finest. 
    Not sure this is fair. 

    Story was reported at the start of October that contract discussions were ongoing between the club and Taylor https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-lyle-taylor-talks-about-his-charlton-athletic-contract-situation-and-summer-transfer-bids/

    Bowyer then this week, for the first time, went on the record and said that Taylor had turned down a contract offer from Roland. 
    Agreed. Either Taylor has been offered a new deal which would keep him at the club after June or he hasn’t. There is no “it’s an old offer” or “we didn’t mean that offer”.

    On what planet is RD making another offer in November when he thinks he is selling the club? On what planet does Rich think that is the case when he is in a constant dialogue with Bowyer. 



    Is the above reflected in Richs article? No - that's the issue with it.

    For someone apparently in constant dialogue with LB, it was not clear in his article so much so Bowyer has even come out and said it.