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Is Thomas Driesen Gone? - he popped in on p16, and back out on p26

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  • Is there a single ‘Driesen supporter’?
    There’s a photo of him on this page ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
  • Stig said:
    Driesen was a very convenient figure of fun. The secrecy about his role, his youthful eccentricity and the (over?)sensitive way he managed his twitter account all made him a very easy target for cheap jokes and a godsend for propaganda against the regime. He wasn't quite up there with Meire as the ultimate target, but he was on a par with the sofa, the laundry van and the duck-taped shoes as a subject of ridicule. 

    Was it fair on him? Probably not. Do I care one jot? Absolutely not. It may seem different for someone who continued to watch the football and even enjoyed it in latter years. But as someone who stopped attending, the regime was the reason behind a very unwanted change in lifestyle. He was a part of that regime. It may not have been what he wanted, but he was a part of the reason why I, and my boys, didn't attend The Valley. He had it coming. Both barrels.

    Had our lives been swapped somehow, I'd have probably taken the Charlton job just as he did. Who wouldn't? But that doesn't mean that others have to accept his role in our club. I don't wish him any harm and I would be genuinely interested to hear his side of the story, but I won't be forgetting what he was a part of, in any great hurry. To me, he will always be a spotty twerp sitting in his bedroom meddling with our squad, and if a cheap joke at his expense springs to mind I'd still rather share it than stifle it.   
    On the contrary: people that kept going had to watch his signings play 😬
  • His history now forget him and let’s look forward 
  • I’ve long felt the abuse and hate towards Tommy boy has been OTT. I’m not convinced how involved he was right at the beginning with the opening disasters, and equally I’m fairly sure he has had a positive influence in the excellent recruitment of the last two years.

    The situation of Gallen & co having to filter their recommendations through him wasn’t ideal, but then again, it might not have been such a bad thing having an approval phase as independent and outside the inner camp. As said, it’s a process no one can argue from the outside hasn’t worked over the last two years. 

    Im glad for everyone he’s gone though. 

    REFER YOU BACK TO VOTV OCT 2016

    cover photo taken July 2015 by myself,and photo onpage 4, march 2014. He was in it from the START.
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    That girl that blogs always seemed to back him and compliment him.
    Kat?
  • To be honest I think Dreisen became less and less of a cog the more and more Duchatelet became disinterested in the whole thing.
    In the first couple of years then yeah, I reckon anyone that was brought in or recommended from the Belgian end/Duchatelet would certainly have come through him.
    I would assume he had very little say on the squad Bowyer and Gallen put together. Same for Robinson and maybe some of Slades short reign.

    For me, he was just one of the many ingredients in the recipe of how to run a football club very badly.
  • I’ve long felt the abuse and hate towards Tommy boy has been OTT. I’m not convinced how involved he was right at the beginning with the opening disasters, and equally I’m fairly sure he has had a positive influence in the excellent recruitment of the last two years.

    The situation of Gallen & co having to filter their recommendations through him wasn’t ideal, but then again, it might not have been such a bad thing having an approval phase as independent and outside the inner camp. As said, it’s a process no one can argue from the outside hasn’t worked over the last two years. 

    Im glad for everyone he’s gone though. 
    Guilty by association anyway.
  • supaclive said:
    Um.... since Gallen came in there's been a marked improvement.  

    No way on earth did Tommy D know ANYTHING about Cullen, Field, Gallacher, Leko, Bielik or any youth footballer playing in the Prem or Efl.

    Do me a favour!
    But you would be happy to blame him for Ba and Cabbellos? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    But you would be happy to blame him for Ba and Cabbellos? 
    Yes because on the whole his record was appalling.  I can pick better players than him.
  • But you said he knew nothing about young reserve players so couldn't get any credit for the players you mentioned, but you have 100% conviction that he did sign 2 that weren't very good? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    But you said he knew nothing about young reserve players so couldn't get any credit for the players you mentioned, but you have 100% conviction that he did sign 2 that weren't very good? 
    I am saying he knows fuck all about picking players with talent, temperament and the ability to handle Championship football.  Compared to Powell, Chappell, Gallen and Bowyer. 

    End of.

    If he knew more than Riga, Peeters, Luzon and Fraey we know who is to blame there!!!
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  • Rubbershoes isn’t that bad, he was only doing his job/following (crap) orders....
  • supaclive said:
    I am saying he knows fuck all about picking players with talent, temperament and the ability to handle Championship football.  Compared to Powell, Chappell, Gallen and Bowyer. 

    End of.

    If he knew more than Riga, Peeters, Luzon and Fraey we know who is to blame there!!!
    You never said compared to anyone.  You said he knows nothing of young players in the efl or Premier.  You said you know for a fact he didn't have anything to do with signing the good ones and is 100% responsible for the bad ones. 

    You don't know, your guessing, unless he told you himself?  Your presenting your opinion and guess work as fact.  I am just pointing that out. 


  • I never said for a fact he didn't have anything to do with signing the good ones - but again, look at the recruitment before him, then with him and then since Gallen joined

    You DO THE MATHS!
  • edited January 2020
    As I mentioned previously in this thread, the leaked emails here: https://gettingtoknowthenetwork.com/the-emails/, clearly show that Roland and thus player recruitment were heavily influenced by a scout who was 'heavily involved in analysing players and the playing system'.

    It seems clear to me that this scout is Driesen, and was the one who choose which players we released and which players we brought in at the beginning of Roland's ownership. Player recruitment at this juncture was at its complete worse, and is what caused the opening disasters we experienced. 

    I am of course basing this on what I have seen and read, and maybe there was actually someone else whose name I have not heard who had Roland's ear instead, and Driesen was just a small cog in that machine.


    I thought I remember the GTKTN doc mentioning a series of scouts who worked across the Network, some of them quite senior so perhaps it wasn’t just Tommy boy in those early days. Those other scouts obviously didn’t know anything about the English game either.
  • supaclive said:
    I never said for a fact he didn't have anything to do with signing the good ones - but again, look at the recruitment before him, then with him and then since Gallen joined

    You DO THE MATHS!
    Who said this then "No way on earth did Tommy D know ANYTHING about Cullen, Field, Gallacher, Leko, Bielik or any youth footballer playing in the Prem or Efl. Do me a favour!"

    Or was that when you said you were comparing him to Gallen, Bowyer, Powell etc? 
  • @Cafc43v3r Tommy D did not choose those players GALLEN DID!

    Name me the young Premier or EFL players that Charlton took on loan before Gallen joined and after Powell / Chappell left.

    I'll sit here waiting for the list of stellar recruits. 

    Because IF Tommy D knew all of these players BEFORE Gallen you'll recount to me countless quality loan signings......

    And if you can do that I'll admit I'm wrong.....
  • I didn't say they were quality or if Gallen signed them or not. I also never said they were stellar. 

    You said Tommy would never heard of them.  I questioned how he knew of Ba and Cabellos and you would be happy to blame him for those signings.

    We also signed the midfielder from Man United plus Yaya Sanogo and Coquelin. Off the top of my head. 
  • I thought I remember the GTKTN doc mentioning a series of scouts who worked across the Network, some of them quite senior so perhaps it wasn’t just Tommy boy in those early days. Those other scouts obviously didn’t know anything about the English game either.
    Didn't they say the original transfer window was done by the sporting director of Standard?  
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Didn't they say the original transfer window was done by the sporting director of Standard?  
    You’re probably right. We’d have to listen back to GTKTN again but I’d rather not do that again. Too many bad memories (as good as the docs were). Here’s to the future!
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