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Nimer and Southall interview - training ground, network clubs, Middle East commercial partnerships

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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,716
    Confirms £50m was the price paid.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,428
    Not sure what our youth players could gain from playing in a league like that. 

    The plan is clear as it was all along. Keep costs low. Build a squad over time. Get into premier. Profit. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,102
    On the potential player-exchange between Charlton and clubs within the UAE, Southall added: “Going forward we could potentially send players here on loan from our academy; they may send players to us.

    Warning Warning... Meltdown approaching!!
    Slightly more worrying was Southall’s following comment:

    ” It's only good for the profile of their club (Al-Ain in the UAE League) if they've got a player who's playing in our (Charlton) first team

    Doesnt mean it will happen of course. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,541
    Saudi sponsors to generate £s makes total sense. Loan players between us and Al Ain - will remain respectful but a strong hint of deja vu. Nevertheless, at least there is talk of Premier League ambition, which is a welcome change and investment in our already strong academy pipeline is great news 👏
  • se9addick said:
    On the potential player-exchange between Charlton and clubs within the UAE, Southall added: “Going forward we could potentially send players here on loan from our academy; they may send players to us.

    Warning Warning... Meltdown approaching!!
    Slightly more worrying was Southall’s following comment:

    ” It's only good for the profile of their club (Al-Ain in the UAE League) if they've got a player who's playing in our (Charlton) first team

    Doesnt mean it will happen of course. 
    But then there are no links between the Al-Ain team and Charlton at the moment so that doesnt bother me too much

    Its an interesting hint that there may be though

    I've still got no problem if a network is established provided its ran the right way rather than players being forced on Managers etc.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Hopefully we are the Inter Milan in this situation
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,102
    I do like the constant references to Charlton being a part of the local community that Southall and His Excellency make, I think Roland totally ignored this. What % of the local population of Charlton go to matches regularly/ever? Must be leaving so much money on the table. 

    (quote from the interview:

    “ It didn't really take much convincing. The location, the ties with the local community, the manager [Lee Bowyer], the academy: Tahnoon just said, ‘Go and work the deal.’”)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    Bet Davison or Maynard-Brewer wouldn't mind six months in the UAE.
    Or even Chris Solly.

    I doubt five players will suddenly arrive unannounced from the gulf expecting to start in the first team, that would be ridiculous.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,135
    edited January 2020
    Living out here and having seen some of the UAE league, i can confirm that there are probably only 4-5 players in the entire league who would be good enough for Championship level football, and none of them play for Al Ain.

    The standard is pretty poor and because each club is limited to 4 foreigners, you usually get a bunch of South American attacking players and Emirati defences/keepers.

    There are 2 decent Emirati players, but both play for another Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira and their chairman is the Man City owner.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    From Wikipedia

    The club was founded in 1968 by players from Al Ain, members of a Bahraini group of exchange students and the Sudanese community working in the United Arab Emirates.[1]

    Al Ain is by far the most successful club in the UAE.[2] The team quickly gained popularity and recognition throughout the country, being the team with the most tournament titles (32 in total).[3] Al Ain has won a record 13 UAE Pro-League titles, 6 President's Cups, 3 Federation Cups, 1 Arabian Gulf Cup, a record 5 Super Cups, two Abu Dhabi Championship Cups, one Joint League Cup, Emirati-Moroccan Super Cup, Gulf Club Champions Cup and AFC Champions League. The club is the first and only UAE side so far to win the AFC Champions League.[4]



  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,514
    And so it transpires that the Historical books Tahnoon Nimer read on the history of Charlton Athletic were lent to him by none other than Roland Duchatelet.... strangely with the last three pages ripped out?
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,907
    Confirms £50m was the price paid.
    But does that include £15m to rebuild SL ?
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Still no insight of how much our owners are worth?. Training ground £15m on top of £50m.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,940
    Hex said:
    Confirms £50m was the price paid.
    But does that include £15m to rebuild SL ?
    Doubt it, that's there own project on top of what they purchased. 
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,907
    shine166 said:
    Hex said:
    Confirms £50m was the price paid.
    But does that include £15m to rebuild SL ?
    Doubt it, that's there own project on top of what they purchased. 
    But the £15m was announced straight away.  It was a known and could be included in their "investment" amount.

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,402
    Confirms £50m was the price paid.
    I don’t think it says that £50m was the price paid, but more it was the price agreed. 
    Deferred payment for The Valley and training ground ie Charlton Holdings, £50m or £60m deferred for six months to get the deal over the line in time for the transfer window opening. 
    They still may have bought CAFC Ltd for £1.00. 
    It would be good to get the detail on that @Airman Brown

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,412
    Living out here and having seen some of the UAE league, i can confirm that there are probably only 4-5 players in the entire league who would be good enough for Championship level football, and none of them play for Al Ain.

    The standard is pretty poor and because each club is limited to 4 foreigners, you usually get a bunch of South American attacking players and Emirati defences/keepers.

    There are 2 decent Emirati players, but both play for another Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira and their chairman is the Man City owner.
    Omar Abdulrahman plays for Al Ain and is widely regarded as the best Emirati footballer in the league
  • Just taken a Youtube tour of Al Ain not impressed with this.



    Must say the football stadium looks ok though!


  • sam3110 said:
    Living out here and having seen some of the UAE league, i can confirm that there are probably only 4-5 players in the entire league who would be good enough for Championship level football, and none of them play for Al Ain.

    The standard is pretty poor and because each club is limited to 4 foreigners, you usually get a bunch of South American attacking players and Emirati defences/keepers.

    There are 2 decent Emirati players, but both play for another Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira and their chairman is the Man City owner.
    Omar Abdulrahman plays for Al Ain and is widely regarded as the best Emirati footballer in the league
    He plays for Al Jazira, along with Ali Mabkhout (the best Emirati striker)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,102
    Just taken a Youtube tour of Al Ain not impressed with this.



    Must say the football stadium looks ok though!


    Al Ain sounds like a bloke from north Wales !
  • se9addick said:
    Just taken a Youtube tour of Al Ain not impressed with this.



    Must say the football stadium looks ok though!


    Al Ain sounds like a bloke from north Wales !
    Gonna fit well with the Allez Allez Allez o song.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,520
    se9addick said:
    Just taken a Youtube tour of Al Ain not impressed with this.



    Must say the football stadium looks ok though!


    Al Ain sounds like a bloke from north Wales !
    Al Ain Jones no less.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,428
    sam3110 said:
    Living out here and having seen some of the UAE league, i can confirm that there are probably only 4-5 players in the entire league who would be good enough for Championship level football, and none of them play for Al Ain.

    The standard is pretty poor and because each club is limited to 4 foreigners, you usually get a bunch of South American attacking players and Emirati defences/keepers.

    There are 2 decent Emirati players, but both play for another Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira and their chairman is the Man City owner.
    Omar Abdulrahman plays for Al Ain and is widely regarded as the best Emirati footballer in the league
    He plays for Al Jazira, along with Ali Mabkhout (the best Emirati striker)
    Does Al Ain allow women to watch football?
  • At the risk of being slaughtered...
    If this much money is now behind the club, why are we looking at players from Bristol Rovers, Peterborough United and Blackpool?
    No - I don't expect them to bring in Harry Kane and Ronaldo. But, I'd expect reinforcements from slightly higher up the food chain than those we are being told about.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    edited January 2020
    At the risk of being slaughtered...
    If this much money is now behind the club, why are we looking at players from Bristol Rovers, Peterborough United and Blackpool?
    No - I don't expect them to bring in Harry Kane and Ronaldo. But, I'd expect reinforcements from slightly higher up the food chain than those we are being told about.

    Perhaps they feel players stepping up, wanting to prove themselves at a higher level, will perform better and be more up for the fight than players stepping down ?