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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.14 -
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Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.7 -
Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at all
If people (not aimed directly at you) honestly think they’re dragging their heels or stalling or not working their absolutely hardest to get deals across the line, then you need to take a step away from all of this because it’s not good for your health.
We all want Bowyer to sign, we all want players in as soon as possible. When I say we all, that’s supporters, management, board, everyone. He is waiting for his staff to be sorted so they sign together, he doesn’t want to do it right now with the smallest of chances that someone doesn’t get theirs and leaves. The other week, Bowyer’s contract situation was a hurdle in deals. Now everyone knows it’s all but signed, players won’t be asking that question anymore because Bowyer, Gallen, and Southall would make it clear to them immediately.
We will bring players in, but all this drama, negativity and constant checking or moaning that nothing has happened from 52 minutes ago to now, all day long, is not going to help anyone.34 -
Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.0 -
Chunes said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
What proof is there we have money? Only that we bid for Maddison? He's got 6 months left on his contract and he's definitely not staying there. I doubt it took a lot.
nothing wrong with promoting youth and buying young cheap hungry players if they are good enough and then developing them and selling them at a profit. Seems to be working for Brentford! Or we could do a derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham etc and have the threat of an efl charge and points deduction.
we've had a minimum of 9 years of bad ownership but yet people are judging the new owners on 3 weeks. If not all the turnstiles are open on Wednesday, I’m boycotting!!!!1 -
Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.3 -
One poster, who was out of order, suggested a few days ago that I must think Bowyer and Gallen were cretins. Of course I don't, I think they are both great at their jobs. I just understand that even a poor manager would want some reinforcements in as early into the window as possible, given the extreme circumstances we found ourselves in with injuries, so it is a no brainer they would have wanted the same.
If you want to look at some positive statements a manager who is in the process of negotiating a contract is making, you shouldn't forget the negative clues. Like the 'strange' comment. like being angry at what Southall said originally about Bowyer being happy to wait, about potential signings asking about Bowyer's future. like explaining why a 5 year deal means nothing in itself and what Bowyer said after Preston. These are things to worry about and put them alongside the fact that no contract has been signed and there is a message that some of us can reluctantly see and some are choosing to ignore.1 -
Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
im assuming both bids were prepared by gallen, if he says that the player isn’t worth it then that works for me. If southall pulled out the deal after gallen said the player was worth it, then yea, worry. But where is the evidence that this happened? Where is the evidence that esi are skint? Maybe you should practice what you preach and wait until a statement saying esi are skint is out on the official web site1 -
Todds_right_hook said:Chunes said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
What proof is there we have money? Only that we bid for Maddison? He's got 6 months left on his contract and he's definitely not staying there. I doubt it took a lot.
nothing wrong with promoting youth and buying young cheap hungry players if they are good enough and then developing them and selling them at a profit. Seems to be working for Brentford! Or we could do a derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham etc and have the threat of an efl charge and points deduction.
we've had a minimum of 9 years of bad ownership but yet people are judging the new owners on 3 weeks. If not all the turnstiles are open on Wednesday, I’m boycotting!!!!
They said they will build the squad slowly and not splash the cash and many on here were in dreamland saying it was a smokescreen to get cheaper prices on big players.
I believe they're adapting their plan to their budget.
I'm fine with the strategy and their cash flow, I just think everyone needs to realign their expectations.2 -
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Bowyer now happy with his contract and just waiting for the other two to catch up and then all sign. If those three were our only bit of business this window it will have been a good one.
But we want MORE! Deals have been offered and players agents and clubs are looking around to see if other better offers come in. We probably have deals we could do now, but should we? Or should wait to see if targets higher up the list come in? If the Liverpool deal happens are we not interested in the Rangers lad - or is it the other way round? Or both? Could we go back to Blackpool or are we onto someone better?
All so exciting and would so love to know. Do we get it all or nothing? If I could shadow anyone it would be SG right now. COYR. Best window ever.5 -
Simonsen said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
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Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.3 -
Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.3 -
Problem is no one has a clue how much money is available as we’ve seen no evidence of it, so we all draw our own conclusions based on imperfect info.
For me, I suspect there is some budget there based on the Maddison negotiations alone, but it appears they’ve made a fundamental miscalculation as to how much it takes to get players through the door in the brutal January window.
Clearly, if that’s right, then sights need to be quickly readjusted if we’re to have a good chance of avoiding relegation. ESI will have to compromise in some direction e.g. paying Maddison a bit more even though he seems a bit of a dick, but he also seems a very good player who is nearly ‘there’. Would hope there will be a flurry of activity next week, not the end of the world if we lose tomorrow night.
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Henry Irving said:Simonsen said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
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Redrobo said:Bowyer now happy with his contract and just waiting for the other two to catch up and then all sign. If those three were our only bit of business this window it will have been a good one.
But we want MORE! Deals have been offered and players agents and clubs are looking around to see if other better offers come in. We probably have deals we could do now, but should we? Or should wait to see if targets higher up the list come in? If the Liverpool deal happens are we not interested in the Rangers lad - or is it the other way round? Or both? Could we go back to Blackpool or are we onto someone better?
All so exciting and would so love to know. Do we get it all or nothing? If I could shadow anyone it would be SG right now. COYR. Best window ever.0 -
cafcfan1990 said:Henry Irving said:Simonsen said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
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Jordan Rhodes in advanced talks with Wigan.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us8 -
A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?1
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CharltonByBlood said:Jordan Rhodes in advanced talks with Wigan.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us0 -
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Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
If a week is a long time in Politics, it could be 3 losses and the manager can be under pressure in football. In Bonne case, in 3 games he went from "looking like a non League striker" quote on CL, to Macauley's agent putting out a story that Newcastle and Brighton were watching him ! TBF after his Two goals, assist and winning most ball in the air against Bristol City, Cafc would value him at least 10x more than we rated him in August, so no blame attached to Blackpool. All club use a pro rata system and strikers values goes up as each goal hits the back of the net; which is good Football acumen.
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killerandflash said:A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?0
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killerandflash said:A reminder that we currently have TWO loan spaces spare now, and they have been free for a week. Even if the permanent deals are dragging on, surely at least one can be fixed up by lunchtime?
I do wonder... even though we did a great job with Conor Gallagher, Chelsea recalling him and sending him out to another Championship club was not a good look for us. I can see Premiership clubs wondering what happened there and thinking twice about loaning us their youngster, as wrong as that would be.2 -
ValleyGary said:cafcfan1990 said:Henry Irving said:Simonsen said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Henry Irving said:Todds_right_hook said:Goonerhater said:Bowyer said it was his contract situation holding up signings ----- still not done
Bowyer said he wanted PLAYERS in before the Fulham game ----- nothing
Hey apparently we will be fine AFTER the Fulham game and anybody concerned about the above or ESI's lack of dosh (possibly) or 5points out of 48 is a bed weter?
If like to say than fec k Rolands gone but he hasn't he still owns The Valley ,he still owns Sparrows Lane. At the moment I see no change at allWe’ve offered cash for Maddison and a wage which their chairman and manager have stated as good, but the player obviously doesn’t want to come here. How is that esi’s fault or how does that suggest a lack of funds?
Ive never bought a footballer, assuming 99.9% of people on here haven’t either. I’m guessing it takes time, say it’s 1 working week. If we spent a week on Maddison and he turned us down and the process starts again, that’s 2 weeks gone of a 4 week window.I know it’s frustrating that nobody has signed yet but people turning on esi after 3 weeks and stating they have no money without proof is just ridiculous.
They asked for one price in the summer and then a higher price five months and 15 goals later in January.
Y
Yes, perfect comparison.
If Forest or Brentford said
"We'll give you £200k for Bonne cos that's what the price was in July"
We'd laugh at them but isn't that all that Blackpool have done?
If Gallen doesnt think the Blackpool striker is worth that much then I'm happy with that.
Personally I'm frustrated that we've not signed players, or the coaches, but realise that it's never easy and rarely straight forward.
The time, IMHO, to judge the window is once it's closed but fans are entitled to question what has and hasn't happened so far and to discuss the business plan without being called "bedwetters".
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
I agree that come 1st February is the time to judge.
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CharltonByBlood said:Jordan Rhodes in advanced talks with Wigan.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us1 -
CharltonByBlood said:Jordan Rhodes in advanced talks with Wigan.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us7 -
CharltonByBlood said:Jordan Rhodes in advanced talks with Wigan.
Incredibly frustrating, would be a good signing for us0 -
We should be looking at players from clubs like Sheff Utd and Derby who need mins by going out on loan.1
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Valley27000 said:We should be looking at players from clubs like Sheff Utd and Derby who need mins by going out on loan.1
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Marriott?.0