Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan
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Been another good year for Bet365?bobmunro said:
Not convinced about relationships being the issue - it would be funds from the same source that would concern them.cafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
If my eldest bought Charlton and my youngest bought Palace (to liquidate them) then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem as long as they could prove they were not both using my money.1 -
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Been another good year for Bet365?bobmunro said:
Not convinced about relationships being the issue - it would be funds from the same source that would concern them.cafcfan1990 said:
That's true, but surely you are more likely to do a relative a favour? I cannot imagine Mike Ashley getting a call from David Gold and doing the same. The suspicion may be there but it would be nigh on impossible to prove. Although thinking about it, wouldn't the Premier League be involved in that too as it's potentially their issue rather than the EFL.bobmunro said:
But that's about one owner doing the other a favour. I would suggest that is more likely where the two respective owners are not in any way connected, otherwise suspicion is raised automatically.cafcfan1990 said:
Not necessarily about funding, more about a conflict of interest.ShootersHillGuru said:Surely even if the Sheiks were brothers it shouldn’t make the slightest difference. If the funding is separate which I’m sure ESI will be.
Scenario - May 2021, last game of the season, Charlton guaranteed to finish 7th, Man City away at Charlton, needing 3 points to guarantee the title, you can see why they need to avoid any future issue!
Didn't/doesn't stop convenient 0-0 draws happening on the last day of Serie A!
There's also the possibility of Man City giving us first refusal on players and vice versa.
Not saying either of the above would happen but you would have to imagine it's something they have to consider. I doubt the conflict of interest is solely down to the source of the funds.
If my eldest bought Charlton and my youngest bought Palace (to liquidate them) then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem as long as they could prove they were not both using my money.
She's had worse years i guess.1 -
Did a bit of digging on this person - here are my notes:
Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan is top o the tree he is estimated to be worth of $15.0 billion (April 2011)[1][2]
He has a son - Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan – found two of them:
Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan (number 1)
He has been pictured numerous times on Instagram with Tahoon he is older than the second guy.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Saeedbintahnoun/photos/?tab=album&album_id=283916105019369
Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan (number 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okbV1L8kdp0
one photo of them both together on Instagram feed. Nov 2017 referred to as Sheikh Tahnoun bin Saeed someone commented “Pray Abu Saeed”
NOTE THIS POINT: Tahnoon but referred to by Nimer multiple times as Tahnoun a mistake multiple times?
No he is indeed correct: well at least for one article I can find:
I then found this article which is interesting:
Zulfiqar Ghadiyali, CEO of the Private Office of Sheikh Tahnoon bin Saeed bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan, said: “As the whole world and the economic landscape changes, we also need to look at the new trends, the tech-related disruptions. Are we ready?”
Hang on? Which one then? Old or young?
Zulfiqar Ghadiyali,
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3957322
In his role as CEO of the private office of H.H Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan, His Excellency promotes the Al Nahyan’s family values, with a broader outlook of an interconnected globalized, more tolerant and diverse world.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/h-e-mr-zulfiquar-z-ghadiyali-4717b5b/?originalSubdomain=ae
They both cant be CEO of the same thing but for different companies can they?
Lets look:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/h-e-mr-zulfiquar-z-ghadiyali-4717b5b/
Director at Private office HH Sheikh Zayed bin Saeed bin zayed Al Nahyan
This is not the same as Nimer – mystery solved.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahnoon-nimer-298122170/
Chairman at The Private Office of HH Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan
6 other linkedin members:
Jacco van Seventer 3rd degree connection 3rd
The Private Office of HH Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan
Stockport, United Kingdom
Definity confirmed that Nimer works for
Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan (number 1) also referred to as Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan
Who is Tahnoon AL NASIRAT then? In the UK you need to provide all sorts to start a business, Passport or ID is a requirement, so we can trust he wouldn’t be added as a director without confirmation I believe?
Companies house clearly shows him as being Syrian?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/A2Td6bvICZZp3D12qyqQEa0AHdI/appointments
Nationality
Syrian
Country of residence
United Arab Emirates
Occupation
Director
But his website contradicts this?
H.E. Tahnoon Nimer was born in Al Ain, Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates
Born as in an made up name? could Nasirat be his birth name but he goes by another?
This website was made in around 8th June 2014
https://web.archive.org/web/20140608214730/https://adbd.ae/
in 2014 this was the reported people:
Chris Gascoine
Chris Gascoine(Real Estate, Planning, Property investment, Projects)
Chris.gascoine@adbd.ae
Tahnoon Nemer
Tahnoon Nemer(Abu Dhabi Relations, Projects, Recruitment services)
Tahnoon.nemer@adbd.ae
Jacco van Seventer
Jacco van Seventer(Commodities, Planning, Projects)
Jacco.seventer@adbd.ae
Nick Alexander
Nick Alexander(Commodities, Finance, Planning, Funds)
Nick.alexander@adbd.ae
John Hirst
John Hirst(Commodities, Finance, Planning, Investments, Structures)
john.hirst@adbd.ae
Bipin Vernekar
Bipin Vernekar(Recruitment services, Projects, Planning)
Bipin.vernekar@adbd.ae
Colin Wright
Colin Wright(FM, Retail, Projects)
colin.wright@adbd.ae
Marc Freeman
Marc Freeman(Real Estate, Planning, Development)
marc.freeman@adbd.ae
Sally McQuillan
Sally McQuillan(Human Resources)
SallyMcQuillan@adbd.ae
Seren Zetterstrom
Seren Zetterstrom(Marketing)
Seren.zetterstrom@adbd.ae
looks a lot different. – who owns this site?
Jacco van Seventer simple Whois shows us this.
So far everything seems to check out.
25th may 2018 site is taken down with a “coming soon sign” – then is changed to a wordpress site. 4th April 2019 I belie that’s the site we have now.
Why is this relevant? Jonathan Heller came along at this time.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-heller-b726582/
Heller is very much all over this Charlton purchase he is director in the following companys:
Director Structure:
CHARLTON ATHLETIC HOLDINGS LIMITED
CHARLTON ATHLETIC FOOTBALL COMPANY LIMITED
EAST STREET INVESTMENTS LIMITED
MARSEILLE LOANCO LIMITED
SHELDONIAN HOLDINGS LTD
Back to Tahnoon AL NASIRAT what else could I find? NOTHING? Only Charlton related.
Wealth of Tahnoon AL NASIRAT- Unknown – I cant find anything about him never mind wealth.
Wealth of H.E. Tahnoon Nimer – Unknown - – I cant find any estimates.
Wealth of Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan (number 1) - Unknown – I cant find any estimates
Summery:
It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE – to Tahnoon Nimer, This isn’t uncommon in the middle east. (it was highlighted to me that perhaps his mum and dad were Syrian hence he is Syrian DUH) Another option is the name with company’s house is FAKE, doubtful but you never know. He is a close associate to the royal family specifically Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan. We know the royal family are worth a fair bit however how much of that has trickled down? Looking at his Instagram he certainly seems to get about and his son is very well educated. I think he is 50% real, the other 50% could have been fake it till you make it mentality. Prior to 2006 he was involved with http://www.emirates-focus.com cant do a wayback on this site, but first cache was 2011. Other than that he was a ghost when it comes to the online stuff.
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Richard Murray is known as Richard Murray obdyonski I believe at CH1
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"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.0 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.
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Who is John Hirst?0
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Why Syrian then?!Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.0 -
He's on the ADBD websiteThe Red Robin said:Who is John Hirst?1 -
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I'm going to assume you're English and so are your parents. If you'd been born in Abu Dhabi to your English parents what nationality would you class yourself as?cafcfan1990 said:
Why Syrian then?!Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.0 -
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I'm going to assume you're English and so are your parents. If you'd been born in Abu Dhabi to your English parents what nationality would you class yourself as?cafcfan1990 said:
Why Syrian then?!Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.DUH of course. what an idiot lol0 -
Well HELLOOOOOOOOO Sally12
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@77redarmy77
I did similar yesterday, I am fairly certain he is genuine.
You know he could have been born in the UAE to Syrian parents.
Al Nasirat to Nimer or Nemer as it is sometimes spelt (that poster in Goa) is the bit I was most unsure of. I would assume his name change may have been a way to leave his past behind him. An understandable move for people of wealth from Syria given the political situation there over the last twenty plus years.
He could actually be Tahnoon Nimer Al Nasirat.
A bit of research shows there was a refugee camp once called the "Al Nasirat Camp" but that appears to be to do with Palestine... Couldn't find much more than that though.0 -
Nick Alexander looks like he deserves a smack and I don't even know who he is.5
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His profile on ADBD says a lot of this. Could be lies but i don't see why he would lie.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.1 -
I think he should send Seren over for crunch talks with me0
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I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:
His profile on ADBD says a lot of this. Could be lies but i don't see why he would lie.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.
if you look at Zulfiqar Ghadiyali, he is proud of his Uni in the US on linked in - I would have thought Nimer would have similar. it is a strange thing IMO - you can create a website and write whatever you want about yourself - hardly fact-checked.
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Doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?0 -
Fair point. I guess it's just suspect given the 10 weeks of bullshit we have just experienced.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I'm going to assume you're English and so are your parents. If you'd been born in Abu Dhabi to your English parents what nationality would you class yourself as?cafcfan1990 said:
Why Syrian then?!Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
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@AppyAddicks word that he has wealth.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?0 -
There's also this guy, Zulfiquar Ghadiyali: About-me who seems to have a smiler role to Nimer.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
I can't see where Nemer/Nimer has his own wealth. I'd guess he's investing on behalf of Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan and/or Sheikh Tahnoon bin Saeed bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan.
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Please don't get hung up on Arabic names. All Arabs have a chain of names rather than the English given name/surname structure. This chain of names has five distinct parts & any individual can choose to use all, or various parts of this chain to refer to themselves in different circumstance. So it is highly likely that Tahnoon Al Nasirat and Tahnoon Nimer are the same person; he is just using different parts of his chain of names for different purposes.
The confusion between Tahnoon & Tahnoun can also be ignored, as when translating from Arabic to English it is based on the sound of the name, not any particular spelling; so both Tahnoon & Tahnoun are correct English translations of the same Arabic name.9 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?Again there is no evidence to support that other than items he has written himself. Again look at Zulfiqar Ghadiyali job description when he held the same as Nimer but for another member of the fam.:
CEO
Company Name
Private Office of Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan
Dates Employed Apr 2017 – Dec 2019
Employment Duration 2 yrs 9 mos
Location Abu Dhabi
Overall in charge of Business and international collaborationsThis is Nimers:Neither have any mention of managing family funds.Chairman
Company Name
The Private Office of HH Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohd. Al Nahyan
Dates Employed Apr 2006 – Present
Employment Duration 14 yrs
Location Al Ain, Abu Dhabi
We support emerging businesses expanding into the United Arab Emirates. Sponsorships directly with HH Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan.
Strategically we partner directly at government levels in many different countries and territories. Oman, Saudi Arabia, Georgia, Egypt, Kuwait and many parts in Africa. Filtering strategic alliences gives us the cutting edge focus and direction.
Many strategic alliences have succesfully been formed in sectors as Insurance, Oil & Gas, sports and television, Aviation, commodities, leisure, shipping and other transport, to name but few.
The second largest Arab economy the UAE prides itself in diversifying its economy away from just oil. Non oil sectors now account for 70% of UAE’s GDP. More than 5000 UK Companies are now established in the UAE. Our diverse economy is continually growing and expanding. We are the entry route to other GCC countries. We seek, develop, and capitalise on new opportunities.
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Dazzler21 said:
@AppyAddicks word that he has wealth.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
Can he then provide visual proof of this? Nimer cant seem to.
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True he could write whatever he wanted, but i think it's highly unlikely a guy over here in a senior role at a private office for a Sheikh isn't well educated.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
His profile on ADBD says a lot of this. Could be lies but i don't see why he would lie.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.
if you look at Zulfiqar Ghadiyali, he is proud of his Uni in the US on linked in - I would have thought Nimer would have similar. it is a strange thing IMO - you can create a website and write whatever you want about yourself - hardly fact-checked.
It's been discussed on this site before that many of the guys involved, Nimer, Hirst, Heller, van Seventer have all done a fair degree of cleaning up their internet presence. There isn't much to be found about many of them really, just bits and pieces.4 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:
True he could write whatever he wanted, but i think it's highly unlikely a guy over here in a senior role at a private office for a Sheikh isn't well educated.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
His profile on ADBD says a lot of this. Could be lies but i don't see why he would lie.77redarmy77 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:"It is my opinion that Al Nasirat changed his name at some point when he moved to UAE"
He was born in the UAE, and aside from the years he studied in the US, he's always lived there.
Do you have any evidence to back this up? why is his nationality Syrian? also, have you found any evidence of his time in the US? It would be very helpful.
if you look at Zulfiqar Ghadiyali, he is proud of his Uni in the US on linked in - I would have thought Nimer would have similar. it is a strange thing IMO - you can create a website and write whatever you want about yourself - hardly fact-checked.
It's been discussed on this site before that many of the guys involved, Nimer, Hirst, Heller, van Seventer have all done a fair degree of cleaning up their internet presence. There isn't much to be found about many of them really, just bits and pieces.
That's all fine, look I'm not trying to discredit the man here, i just want to try and put together Facts that we can see. You have to speculate and dig to get that sometimes.
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A few things
- Appy Addicks post last night was pretty convincing.
- The UAE has only really existed since 1971, and that borders in the middle east, are porous, so being born in Syria, but then having all your life in the Emirates, is completely possible.
- Ghadiyali website and the ADBD site shows there is a serious lack of web design talent in the UAE
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