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  • RomseyAddick
    RomseyAddick Posts: 180
    Draft week is upon us chaps, amongst all the worldwide chaos there is still to be the constant that is Goodell getting boo'd at the podium:

    https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1252304527375708160?s=21

    Also, @PaddyP17 what are your thoughts on this?!

    https://twitter.com/willbrinson/status/1252295598675550219?s=21

  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Gronk is back and the Bucs are looking very dangerous, welcome to 2020. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Brady and Gronk at The Succaneers!  Uh oh!
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    RomseyAddick said:
    Draft week is upon us chaps, amongst all the worldwide chaos there is still to be the constant that is Goodell getting boo'd at the podium:

    https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1252304527375708160?s=21

    Also, @PaddyP17 what are your thoughts on this?!

    https://twitter.com/willbrinson/status/1252295598675550219?s=21

    Yan is acting like a child. Tony Khan shouldn't have allowed himself to be baited but there you have it. Hopefully we get appropriate trade value for him (personally I think a second is fair, based on Frank Clark and other precedents).

    Fournette might be out the door, too. This team is completely changing from a couple of years ago. How the turn tables...
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    cafc_harry said:
    Gronk is back and the Bucs are looking very dangerous, welcome to 2020. 
    I realise these are words I will most likely have to eat, especially as Bruce Arians is excellent with QBs, but I think Brady really started to show his age last year and I don't know how the Bucs will fare with him under centre.
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128
    edited April 2020
    PaddyP17 said:
    Right, another one-round mock draft. My first wasn't anywhere near perfect especially with Andrew Thomas going so low. No trades as I don't really know how to predict them too well:

    1. Cincinnati Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
    2. Washington Redskins: Chase Young, DE, Ohio State
    3. Detroit Lions: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State
    4. New York Giants: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
    5. Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
    6. LA Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
    7. Carolina Panthers: Isaiah Simmons, everywhere, Clemson
    8. Arizona Cardinals: Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
    9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
    10. Cleveland Browns: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
    11. New York Jets: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
    12. Las Vegas Raiders: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
    13. San Francisco 49ers: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
    14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
    15. Denver Broncos: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida 
    16. Atlanta Falcons: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
    17. Dallas Cowboys: Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
    18. Miami Dolphins: K'Lavon Chaisson, DE, LSU
    19. Las Vegas Raiders: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
    20. Jacksonville Jaguars: AJ Epenesa, DE, Iowa
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
    23. New England Patriots: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
    24. New Orleans Saints: Kenneth Murray, LB, LSU
    25. Minnesota Vikings: Laviska Shenault Jr, WR, Colorado
    26. Miami Dolphins: Grant Delpit, S, LSU
    27. Seattle Seahawks: Terrell Lewis, DE, Alabama
    28. Baltimore Ravens: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
    29. Tennessee Titans: Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
    30. Green Bay Packers: Josh Jones, OT, Houston
    31. San Francisco 49ers: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
    32. Kansas City Chiefs: Cesar Ruiz, iOL, Michigan
    If Kinlaw is available at 15 then I can't see how Broncos don't take him. We're okay at CB, and if we can't get an elite R1 WR then I think we take the best on the board at 15 or trade back, and Kinlaw is up there. 

    Also a lot of talk that we may trade back for Jefferson, like Fant last year.  Elway loves to have lots of picks.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Bucs will be a 6-10 or 7-9 team. 

    This years overhyped Browns 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Beardface said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Right, another one-round mock draft. My first wasn't anywhere near perfect especially with Andrew Thomas going so low. No trades as I don't really know how to predict them too well:

    1. Cincinnati Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
    2. Washington Redskins: Chase Young, DE, Ohio State
    3. Detroit Lions: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State
    4. New York Giants: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
    5. Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
    6. LA Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
    7. Carolina Panthers: Isaiah Simmons, everywhere, Clemson
    8. Arizona Cardinals: Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
    9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
    10. Cleveland Browns: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
    11. New York Jets: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
    12. Las Vegas Raiders: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
    13. San Francisco 49ers: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
    14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
    15. Denver Broncos: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida 
    16. Atlanta Falcons: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
    17. Dallas Cowboys: Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
    18. Miami Dolphins: K'Lavon Chaisson, DE, LSU
    19. Las Vegas Raiders: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
    20. Jacksonville Jaguars: AJ Epenesa, DE, Iowa
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
    23. New England Patriots: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
    24. New Orleans Saints: Kenneth Murray, LB, LSU
    25. Minnesota Vikings: Laviska Shenault Jr, WR, Colorado
    26. Miami Dolphins: Grant Delpit, S, LSU
    27. Seattle Seahawks: Terrell Lewis, DE, Alabama
    28. Baltimore Ravens: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
    29. Tennessee Titans: Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
    30. Green Bay Packers: Josh Jones, OT, Houston
    31. San Francisco 49ers: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
    32. Kansas City Chiefs: Cesar Ruiz, iOL, Michigan
    If Kinlaw is available at 15 then I can't see how Broncos don't take him. We're okay at CB, and if we can't get an elite R1 WR then I think we take the best on the board at 15 or trade back, and Kinlaw is up there. 

    Also a lot of talk that we may trade back for Jefferson, like Fant last year.  Elway loves to have lots of picks.
    I have no idea what's going to happen this year. The top two picks look certain; I think the Lions stay put and take Okudah; NYG take a tackle; Phins/Chargers also stay put (Phins take Tua, Chargers go Herbert or OT); Panthers could go Brown/Simmons/anyone tbh; Cards likely go O-line to protect Murray; so I desperately hope we take Jeudy. 

    Browns will either have one of the top three tackles (Wills/Thomas/Wirfs IMO) or a board where they have to reach big on Becton at 10, or take BPA that's not a massive need. And that's where my board falls apart with permutations etc!
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128
    PaddyP17 said:
    Beardface said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Right, another one-round mock draft. My first wasn't anywhere near perfect especially with Andrew Thomas going so low. No trades as I don't really know how to predict them too well:

    1. Cincinnati Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
    2. Washington Redskins: Chase Young, DE, Ohio State
    3. Detroit Lions: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State
    4. New York Giants: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
    5. Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
    6. LA Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
    7. Carolina Panthers: Isaiah Simmons, everywhere, Clemson
    8. Arizona Cardinals: Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
    9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
    10. Cleveland Browns: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
    11. New York Jets: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
    12. Las Vegas Raiders: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
    13. San Francisco 49ers: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
    14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
    15. Denver Broncos: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida 
    16. Atlanta Falcons: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
    17. Dallas Cowboys: Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
    18. Miami Dolphins: K'Lavon Chaisson, DE, LSU
    19. Las Vegas Raiders: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
    20. Jacksonville Jaguars: AJ Epenesa, DE, Iowa
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
    23. New England Patriots: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
    24. New Orleans Saints: Kenneth Murray, LB, LSU
    25. Minnesota Vikings: Laviska Shenault Jr, WR, Colorado
    26. Miami Dolphins: Grant Delpit, S, LSU
    27. Seattle Seahawks: Terrell Lewis, DE, Alabama
    28. Baltimore Ravens: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
    29. Tennessee Titans: Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
    30. Green Bay Packers: Josh Jones, OT, Houston
    31. San Francisco 49ers: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
    32. Kansas City Chiefs: Cesar Ruiz, iOL, Michigan
    If Kinlaw is available at 15 then I can't see how Broncos don't take him. We're okay at CB, and if we can't get an elite R1 WR then I think we take the best on the board at 15 or trade back, and Kinlaw is up there. 

    Also a lot of talk that we may trade back for Jefferson, like Fant last year.  Elway loves to have lots of picks.
    I have no idea what's going to happen this year. The top two picks look certain; I think the Lions stay put and take Okudah; NYG take a tackle; Phins/Chargers also stay put (Phins take Tua, Chargers go Herbert or OT); Panthers could go Brown/Simmons/anyone tbh; Cards likely go O-line to protect Murray; so I desperately hope we take Jeudy. 

    Browns will either have one of the top three tackles (Wills/Thomas/Wirfs IMO) or a board where they have to reach big on Becton at 10, or take BPA that's not a massive need. And that's where my board falls apart with permutations etc!
    I think all of that is fair, and I'm sure a lot of it won't happen... it's impossible to predict! I think there will be a few trade backs with some deep talent in the first couple of rounds, which will always scupper people's boards!
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128
    Beardface said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Beardface said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Right, another one-round mock draft. My first wasn't anywhere near perfect especially with Andrew Thomas going so low. No trades as I don't really know how to predict them too well:

    1. Cincinnati Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
    2. Washington Redskins: Chase Young, DE, Ohio State
    3. Detroit Lions: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio State
    4. New York Giants: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
    5. Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
    6. LA Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
    7. Carolina Panthers: Isaiah Simmons, everywhere, Clemson
    8. Arizona Cardinals: Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
    9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
    10. Cleveland Browns: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
    11. New York Jets: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
    12. Las Vegas Raiders: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
    13. San Francisco 49ers: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
    14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
    15. Denver Broncos: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida 
    16. Atlanta Falcons: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
    17. Dallas Cowboys: Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
    18. Miami Dolphins: K'Lavon Chaisson, DE, LSU
    19. Las Vegas Raiders: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
    20. Jacksonville Jaguars: AJ Epenesa, DE, Iowa
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
    23. New England Patriots: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
    24. New Orleans Saints: Kenneth Murray, LB, LSU
    25. Minnesota Vikings: Laviska Shenault Jr, WR, Colorado
    26. Miami Dolphins: Grant Delpit, S, LSU
    27. Seattle Seahawks: Terrell Lewis, DE, Alabama
    28. Baltimore Ravens: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
    29. Tennessee Titans: Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
    30. Green Bay Packers: Josh Jones, OT, Houston
    31. San Francisco 49ers: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
    32. Kansas City Chiefs: Cesar Ruiz, iOL, Michigan
    If Kinlaw is available at 15 then I can't see how Broncos don't take him. We're okay at CB, and if we can't get an elite R1 WR then I think we take the best on the board at 15 or trade back, and Kinlaw is up there. 

    Also a lot of talk that we may trade back for Jefferson, like Fant last year.  Elway loves to have lots of picks.
    I have no idea what's going to happen this year. The top two picks look certain; I think the Lions stay put and take Okudah; NYG take a tackle; Phins/Chargers also stay put (Phins take Tua, Chargers go Herbert or OT); Panthers could go Brown/Simmons/anyone tbh; Cards likely go O-line to protect Murray; so I desperately hope we take Jeudy. 

    Browns will either have one of the top three tackles (Wills/Thomas/Wirfs IMO) or a board where they have to reach big on Becton at 10, or take BPA that's not a massive need. And that's where my board falls apart with permutations etc!
    I think all of that is fair, and I'm sure a lot of it won't happen... it's impossible to predict! I think there will be a few trade backs with some deep talent in the first couple of rounds, which will always scupper people's boards!
    And almost by the time I'd written this, as if by magic, there's Broncos rumours of a trade up to secure one of the 3 top class WR (Jeudy is the name doing the rounds), possibly trading with the Browns. No clue what the actual outcome will be! Will be surprised if anyone gets Jeudy at 10. 
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  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Nice to have some normality watching the draft however different it is this year. Burrow and Young off the board and now it could get interesting. 
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Massive reach by Giants at 4 for me
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    cs1986 said:
    Massive reach by Giants at 4 for me
    Thomas seemed to be up and down boards like a yo-yo, only a week ago I saw him mocked down to the bottom of the first. 
  • RomseyAddick
    RomseyAddick Posts: 180
    TUA! Thank god for that. I feel the Giants reached but I'm intrigued by how the rest of the round plays out now, it's been fairly predictable so far
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    cs1986 said:
    Massive reach by Giants at 4 for me
    Could not disagree more. I have no idea why, earlier in this thread, I had him at 29. Think he was correctly OT1 earlier in the year, and his fall wasn't really justified.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    CJ Henderson. Classic Jags move - to draft a Gator. But JEUDY WAS STILL THERE. WILLS AND WIRFS. AAARRRRGGGHHHH.

    That said, I reckon he's a stud. Welcome to Duval, CJ.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    PaddyP17 said:
    cs1986 said:
    Massive reach by Giants at 4 for me
    Could not disagree more. I have no idea why, earlier in this thread, I had him at 29. Think he was correctly OT1 earlier in the year, and his fall wasn't really justified.
    Giants could of traded down and got him at 13/14. Definitely wasnt the best tackle available for me.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    PaddyP17 said:
    CJ Henderson. Classic Jags move - to draft a Gator. But JEUDY WAS STILL THERE. WILLS AND WIRFS. AAARRRRGGGHHHH.

    That said, I reckon he's a stud. Welcome to Duval, CJ.
    Jags should have gone wide receiver for me
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Joe Judge's basement the star of the show so far.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Wonder how twitchy fingers are getting at Vikings HQ with all the WRs on the board. 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Las Vegas Raiders on the clock... still seems weird.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    A couple surprises so far. 2 years in a row where the Colts don't have a 1st rounder (yet), so not sure if I have the desire to watch the whole round lol
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Raiders went Ruggs 🤣🤣😂
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Got money on my niners selecting Lamb
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited April 2020
    1. Joe Burrow, QB - Cincinnati Bengals

    2. Chase Young, DE - Washington Redskins

    3. Jeff Okudah, CB - Detroit Lions

    4. Andrew Thomas, OT - New York Giants

    5. Tua Tagovailoa, QB - Miami Dolphins

    6. Justin Herbert, QB - Los Angeles Chargers

    7. Derrick Brown, DT - Carolina Panthers

    8. Isaiah Simmons, LB - Arizona Cardinals

    9. CJ Henderson, CB - Jacksonville Jaguars

    10. Jedrick Wills, OT - Cleveland Browns

    11. Mekhi Becton, OT -New York Jets

    12. Henry Ruggs III, WR - Oakland Las Vegas Raiders
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited April 2020
    Bucs trade with 49ers. Bucs receive pick 13 and 245, 49ers receive 14 and 117.


    13. Tristan Wirfs, OT - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128
    edited April 2020
    Wirfs going to TB means my Broncos can pick up one of Ceedee Lamb or Juedy, which I'm surprised at. Also Kinlaw still available! 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    14. Javon Kinlaw, DT - San Francisco 49ers
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Might as well have kept Buckner. How can you leave Lamb there at this point 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    15. Jerry Jeudy, WR - Denver Broncos

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