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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,598
    Any tips for discouraging blackbirds from throwing the chip bark in our borders everywhere? A couple happily make a mess every 5 minutes. I then spend 20 minutes tidying it all back up whilst they tweet their laughter at me from a nearby tree, waiting for me to disappear and then do it all over again. I'm beginning to hate the little bastards.
    Get a cat
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,974
    How's your frog grow bag doing? very interesting concept I may have to rethink my pond.

    Frog has moved to another pot. I can’t believe I’m arranging my greenhouse around him!

  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Any tips for discouraging blackbirds from throwing the chip bark in our borders everywhere? A couple happily make a mess every 5 minutes. I then spend 20 minutes tidying it all back up whilst they tweet their laughter at me from a nearby tree, waiting for me to disappear and then do it all over again. I'm beginning to hate the little bastards.
    Get a cat
    Forgot to add; Also trying to stop next doors cat from shitting in said chip bark. Could get a dog  but this could develop into a version of the Lady Who Swallowed a Fly.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,598
    Any tips for discouraging blackbirds from throwing the chip bark in our borders everywhere? A couple happily make a mess every 5 minutes. I then spend 20 minutes tidying it all back up whilst they tweet their laughter at me from a nearby tree, waiting for me to disappear and then do it all over again. I'm beginning to hate the little bastards.
    Get a cat
    Forgot to add; Also trying to stop next doors cat from shitting in said chip bark. Could get a dog  but this could develop into a version of the Lady Who Swallowed a Fly.
    You can get deterrents, although not sure how effective they are. Would imagine the ones that spray water would work. 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,353
    Crested Newts are our little visitors up here, large pond in the fields next to our garden so it's always nice to have a few strays pop by. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I ha ent from tomatoes from seed for a while. Don’t have a greenhouse. Do have propagation/cloche.

    Plan to plant the time outside, anyone know how big the plant needs to be/when I should plant out?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited April 2020
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    i have a small trained cherry tree and the cherries are starting. Any ideas as to how best to stop the birds from eating them all? I don’t really want to build a fixed cage for the tree as don’t have room but any decent net/draping betting options (I really have no idea)?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Ok thanks, they are in seed drill thingies already and about 2 inches high. I’ll pot them on into bigger pots then rather than letting them take their chances now:
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Ok thanks, they are in seed drill thingies already and about 2 inches high. I’ll pot them on into bigger pots then rather than letting them take their chances now:
    I’d let them get a bit bigger first. It’s easier when they’re four inches or so 👍
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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Ok thanks, they are in seed drill thingies already and about 2 inches high. I’ll pot them on into bigger pots then rather than letting them take their chances now:
    I’d let them get a bit bigger first. It’s easier when they’re four inches or so 👍
    Thanks James, the voice of experience ‘4 inches or so’ 😂 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    i have a small trained cherry tree and the cherries are starting. Any ideas as to how best to stop the birds from eating them all? I don’t really want to build a fixed cage for the tree as don’t have room but any decent net/draping betting options (I really have no idea)?
    A) You can open up an umbrella over the tree and hang the netting from that.

    B) Tying plastic bags over bunches protects them from birds and helps them ripen.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917
    Any tips for discouraging blackbirds from throwing the chip bark in our borders everywhere? A couple happily make a mess every 5 minutes. I then spend 20 minutes tidying it all back up whilst they tweet their laughter at me from a nearby tree, waiting for me to disappear and then do it all over again. I'm beginning to hate the little bastards.
    Get a cat
    Forgot to add; Also trying to stop next doors cat from shitting in said chip bark. Could get a dog  but this could develop into a version of the Lady Who Swallowed a Fly.
    You can get deterrents, although not sure how effective they are. Would imagine the ones that spray water would work. 
    A water cannon ? 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    edited April 2020
    Redrobo said:
    i have a small trained cherry tree and the cherries are starting. Any ideas as to how best to stop the birds from eating them all? I don’t really want to build a fixed cage for the tree as don’t have room but any decent net/draping betting options (I really have no idea)?
    A) You can open up an umbrella over the tree and hang the netting from that.

    B) Tying plastic bags over bunches protects them from birds and helps them ripen.
    Thanks I like the umbrella idea. I am however going to have to dob you in to @cabbles for the use of B) rather than B )
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Bought six lavender plants 10 days ago because I read that they are basically the easiest thing to look after. At least one of them looks like it’s going to die now, the other five are on life support. It’s not going well so far. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited April 2020
    se9addick said:
    Bought six lavender plants 10 days ago because I read that they are basically the easiest thing to look after. At least one of them looks like it’s going to die now, the other five are on life support. It’s not going well so far. 
    Where did you plant them? They like sandy, well drained soil. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    se9addick said:
    Bought six lavender plants 10 days ago because I read that they are basically the easiest thing to look after. At least one of them looks like it’s going to die now, the other five are on life support. It’s not going well so far. 
    As James says, these guys dont like to sit in water. They like it dry 

    They also love full sunlight, which makes sense as they like dry earth 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,801
    anyone built / got any of them timber batten fences, the modern ones with the horizontal slats? Doing one in my garden wondering what people have used and stains that have worked well etc!
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Sorry if it's been said before but with a name like yours  you were born to be a gardener 
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited April 2020
    lolwray said:
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Sorry if it's been said before but with a name like yours  you were born to be a gardener 
    My name is Dutton.
    ‘Dutton’s Seeds’ has a ring to it?
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    JamesSeed said:
    lolwray said:
    JamesSeed said:
    You need to get the seeds planted now, before it’s too late. 
    Grow in pots until big enough to plant out when it’s warm enough. Normally late May. Most varieties don’t like to go below 13 degrees. 
    I normally wait until they’re at least 18 inches tall. 
    Sorry if it's been said before but with a name like yours  you were born to be a gardener 
    My name is Dutton.
    ‘Dutton Seeds’ has a ring to it?
    No but Sutton seeds has ! 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,353
    The much needed and anticipated rain has finally arrived hopefully filling my water butts as much as possible, now to prepare for the slug and snail invasion which is bound to follow, my hedgehog friends are hopefully very hungry. 
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    Here's a link to an article, with lovely photos, about a wildlife garden within the Barbican.

    The Barbican is famous for its Brutalist architecture, but the concrete conceals a well-kept secret: a community garden where wildlife thrives

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/28/nature-survives-in-the-tiniest-corners-the-barbican-brutalist-london-wild-heart-aoe

  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Could anyone advise me of the average price gardeners charge per hour these days? We'd been having gardeners (more landscape, lot of work involved) before lockdown, just had latest bill and prices have gone up. We're in Bromley though they come from Tenterden. Cheers. 
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    £15 per hour is not unreasonable for general gardening tasks. £20 per hour might be sought for more specialist work, such as cutting at height.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Well this lot want £29 per hour. They are a landscaping company rather than just a grass cutter/hedge trimmer so maybe that comes with a premium. To be fair they have done a lot of hard graft and don't slack off but does feel a lot. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    edited April 2020
    is that £29 per hour a person? or how many people? Doesn't seem a huge amount to be honest, even forgetting the fact of expenses, tools, petrol, traveling between jobs etc etc, if someone could manage a 6 hour day (allowing for travel between jobs) is £45k a year before all the expenses which would eat into that quite a lot.

    £15 an hour is sub 20k a year gross on 6 hours, again before expenses and the like. If you have to run a van, buy tools, insurance etc thats probably barely minimum wage territory and you'd probably do better financially being PAYE in McDonalds. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Per person. They do have to travel a fair distance although they come to me from another job that is midway. If it seems reasonable I'll stick with them as it's a hassle finding new ones. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    It doesn't sound unreasonable for a company to charge that. Tools, Vehicle, Insurance, National Insurance, pension, removal/waste disposal etc I doubt the staff member see's more than £18 of that, if that.