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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)
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If he's not playing then I hope he's kept away from the club.2
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Having stewed on this yesterday and actually listened to what Lee Bowyer said I'm pretty pissed off with Taylor
To go to the extreme, what is the point of contracts if players can openly do this?
Trying my hardest to be objective, I get why he wants to go, he has always been the type of character you love if he plays for you and despise if he plays against you. As a professional footballer you absolutely have to honour the contract you signed and I doubt this is smoke and mirrors from Bowyer and Taylor, what's the point?
The ownership can be blamed and most of our problems can be blamed correctly on the owners but regardless if you are fit and being paid by the club you cannot refuse to play, that is ridiculous. Really disappointed in Solly if that's what he has done as well but I didn't pay as much attention to his situation and Davis has been about as much use as tits on a fish since coming in but I understand if he would rather not travel and stay in a London hotel or commute13 -
I'm actually surprised Lyle didn't avoid much of the anger and disappointment being directed at him, by simply saying that he's concerned about catching Covid-19, rather than trying to avoid injury in order to feather his nest elsewhere !0
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If I refused to do my work because it might hamper a move to another company, i'd be immediately cut loose.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.
Now that would actually benefit Lyle and in my opinion us as you remove bad energy in the form of a want away player that isn't willing to see out their contract.
Same goes for Solly and maybe less so, but also Davis.
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Similar to the Scott Parker situation , a player that would have gone on to be regarded as a bit of a Charlton great will now be remembered for the way he left. Curbs fell out with Parker at the time and LB has possibly done the same. I can't see any way back for LT now , he accused Southall of throwing him under the bus , Lee has thrown him under the steam roller.0
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LargeAddick said:
no he didn'tDoctorCharlton said:Also, he did point out in that recent instagram live interview that his injury was in fact 2 weeks before the international duty but he played on and made it worse whilst in Montserrat.You seem adamant, so I must be wrong.
Could've sworn he said it happened 2 weeks before the Swansea game.
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Not really sure what reaction he is expecting? For a man who likes the limelight I imagine he will get some pelters.queensland_addick said:I'm actually surprised Lyle didn't avoid much of the anger and disappointment being directed at him, by simply saying that he's concerned about catching Covid-19, rather than trying to avoid injury in order to feather his nest elsewhere !0 -
This is actually something I was thinking about yesterday. I know we’re in a crazy situation at the moment, but doesn’t it set a very dangerous precedent for the future if players can say “I have time left to run on my current contract, but I’m not going to play in any more games for my club in case I get injured and jeapordise some future contract that I might be able to get elsewhere”? Shouldn’t we make it clear that this is not an acceptable position to take at Charlton Athletic?Carter said:Having stewed on this yesterday and actually listened to what Lee Bowyer said I'm pretty pissed off with Taylor
To go to the extreme, what is the point of contracts if players can openly do this?
Trying my hardest to be objective, I get why he wants to go, he has always been the type of character you love if he plays for you and despise if he plays against you. As a professional footballer you absolutely have to honour the contract you signed and I doubt this is smoke and mirrors from Bowyer and Taylor, what's the point?
The ownership can be blamed and most of our problems can be blamed correctly on the owners but regardless if you are fit and being paid by the club you cannot refuse to play, that is ridiculous. Really disappointed in Solly if that's what he has done as well but I didn't pay as much attention to his situation and Davis has been about as much use as tits on a fish since coming in but I understand if he would rather not travel and stay in a London hotel or commute2 -
Gutted to lose Lyle. However, it's too easy to pin it all on him, or any individual. Football economics are morally bankrupt - a microcosm of the wider world. (Apologies, a bit preachy.)
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No. You can't really assume that. If he had come out and said I will play out the end of my contract but have a move lined up on 1st July, I do not believe people would be half as pissed. We're pissed because he's not even seeing out his pre-agreed contract, never mind the season!oohaahmortimer said:Honesty doesn’t pay , he should have coasted the 2-3 games till the end of June ....And left a hero
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I'd argue you need to be extremely financially driven to reach the top of the game, very few players, if any at the top are on sensible money.golfaddick said:
I think almost to a man every poster has said that they dont begrudge Taylor going & realise that he is looking for a big payday with his next move. As you say, players come & go and nowdays most players move on after 2 or 3 years.Mendonca In Asdas said:Lyle was always going to leave, I know I’m going to get pelters for this, but with all that’s going on in the world at the moment and having known 4 people taken, in just meh whatever, it’s not important in the scheme of things.
Pre Covid I’d probably be spitting feathers, starting threads galore, and up in arms, I just feel lucky to still be around at the moment.
Doing an ooh ah, yes we’ve probably got a 90% chance of being relegated without Lyle, of course I’d rather have him playing for us, but in really not surprised, or bothered as much as I used to be.
Wembley May 2019, seems a long way away, even if I did miss Bauer’s goal by drinking too much in the green man!
Don’t get too stressed out by this people, we’ve always been a selling club, players come and go, don’t get too attached to them, its their career and living, don’t give them abuse, we’re better than that.
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What is sickening everyone is the flagrant disregard to honouring a contract. I didn't think for a minute that he'd sign the months extension that the EFL have mooted, but I did expect him to play until June 30th.
He has shown that he is just as bad as Parker, Grant & Defoe. There is more to life than money. Stuff like decency & integrity.
I think all footballers are money grabbers and why not, it's a short career and most won't get a proper job after it.
But YOU MUST HONOUR YOUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. If you don't what's the point in either Contracts or Transfer Windows1 -
Will be interesting to see if Lyle takes the step down to the Scottish Premiership.0
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The window will officially open on June 10, 2020, though many deals will not become official until July 1.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes what a punishment!! That's probably exactly what he wants. Sit at home, rest, reduce your chances of catching Covid, sign a 20k a week contract in August (or whenever players can sign).golfaddick said:
If I was Bowyer I'd tell him to piss off & not to turn up ever again. Let him sit at home for the next 3 months. Seriously, we haven't even got this season back up again & he's thinking about next season. He might find the new one doesnt start until September. Lots of time to drop jars of beetroot onto your foot, fall through a glass coffee table or cut your hand peeling an orange.JoshAddick said:Is Taylor still training? Surely having him about the place, with his ‘i’m too good for this club’ attitude, can’t be good for team morale.
He's quite likely only turning up to training because if he doesn't then he'll be fined.
However, due to a quirk of the calendar, this summer the Premier League will actually trade for an extra 24 hours compared to the rest of Europe. Aug. 31 is a public holiday in England this year, so the window will close at 5 p.m. BST (noon ET) on Tuesday, Sept. 1.
The EFL has not yet announced its plans, but it is expected to fall into line with the top division having also closed early in recent seasons.1 -
Will be a sad way for his career at Charlton to end - will tarnish his memory.6
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:If he's not playing then I hope he's kept away from the club.
full article - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/01/three-charlton-players-including-lyle-taylor-unwilling-to-continue-season-lee-bowyer-injury
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Agreed. Happy to (rightly) criticise Southall when not honouring his own contract. Would be 'interesting' if he did end up at Boro if they stay up and we don't after he didn't play on for us...........addick1956 said:
Spot on .Valley11 said:
Could be wrong but I don’t think @supaclive is at breaking point because of Taylor leaving, (although it’s likely to be the straw that broke the camel’s back) but rather because of the crappy way people conduct themselves, the game being all about money and the fans being left to suffer the consequences.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Nonsense. Far better players than Taylor have left us.supaclive said:He has a contract. Refusal to play is a breach.
Damages for breach. Earnings and potential earnings.
We won't pay him.
He won't care.
Lyle you were, for 18 months, a top man in my eyes. You've just lost that respect.
Play games until 30 June then you are free to choose. By admitting you won't give your all in the meantime, another little part of my love for this game died in front of my very eyes.
This is right now, as close as I have ever been to giving up on Charlton and modern day football.
RIP CAFC. I'm beginning to see no way back for us.
We'll get a new owner and even if it's in league one, we'll move on.The greed is at maximum levels now.....for a bunch of blokes who run around trying to put a ball in a net. Not exactly saving lives is it? Range Rovers, luxury flats. It’s all a total turn off particular after reflecting for the last three months on what really matters.0 -
The phrase hero to zero springs to mind.1
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This is crazy.Dazzler21 said:
The window will officially open on June 10, 2020, though many deals will not become official until July 1.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes what a punishment!! That's probably exactly what he wants. Sit at home, rest, reduce your chances of catching Covid, sign a 20k a week contract in August (or whenever players can sign).golfaddick said:
If I was Bowyer I'd tell him to piss off & not to turn up ever again. Let him sit at home for the next 3 months. Seriously, we haven't even got this season back up again & he's thinking about next season. He might find the new one doesnt start until September. Lots of time to drop jars of beetroot onto your foot, fall through a glass coffee table or cut your hand peeling an orange.JoshAddick said:Is Taylor still training? Surely having him about the place, with his ‘i’m too good for this club’ attitude, can’t be good for team morale.
He's quite likely only turning up to training because if he doesn't then he'll be fined.
However, due to a quirk of the calendar, this summer the Premier League will actually trade for an extra 24 hours compared to the rest of Europe. Aug. 31 is a public holiday in England this year, so the window will close at 5 p.m. BST (noon ET) on Tuesday, Sept. 1.
The EFL has not yet announced its plans, but it is expected to fall into line with the top division having also closed early in recent seasons.
You will have so many players who've decided to stay and play on for a club when they may have already signed for another. In some cases you may even be playing against your new club.
They should've just said the window won't open and no deals will be announced until the season ends.3 -
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FishCostaFortune said:Where's the feigning an injury because he is a sulker and wants to leave and keeps posting things on twitter that present himself as the victim of a concerted campaign of abuse but won't stop waffling on and it all looks a bit suspicious brigade?0
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The reason Taylor didn't give another excuse, Covid etc, is because he doesn't give a shit what anybody else thinks.
He does what he wants and bollocks to everyone else.1 -
Carter said:Having stewed on this yesterday and actually listened to what Lee Bowyer said I'm pretty pissed off with Taylor
To go to the extreme, what is the point of contracts if players can openly do this?
Trying my hardest to be objective, I get why he wants to go, he has always been the type of character you love if he plays for you and despise if he plays against you. As a professional footballer you absolutely have to honour the contract you signed and I doubt this is smoke and mirrors from Bowyer and Taylor, what's the point?
The ownership can be blamed and most of our problems can be blamed correctly on the owners but regardless if you are fit and being paid by the club you cannot refuse to play, that is ridiculous. Really disappointed in Solly if that's what he has done as well but I didn't pay as much attention to his situation and Davis has been about as much use as tits on a fish since coming in but I understand if he would rather not travel and stay in a London hotel or commute
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I do understand - but do not agree with - Lyle's stance. In the past, he has been only too eager to praise the fans but is now letting them down by refusing to play. Show some cojones, pal.2
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Food for thought...
Could Lyle have been suspended by Southall and Nimer for basically calling them both conmen?
Nah I doubt it.0 -
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It’s a bit odd - is he’s genuinely refusing to play surely Bowyer wouldn’t want him at Sparrows?Dazzler21 said:0 -
If he is still under contract he should be playing or shouldn't get paid.
Perhaps the club should force him to work in the Club Shop dealing with the backlog?3 -
You know what, I’ve had a little think about this, and read a fair few comments, and I’m now leaning more on your side. He’s under contract, and should should play. If he’s worried about getting injured he should consider taking out insurance.bobmunro said:JamesSeed said:
We’re seeing this through fans’ eyes.Talal said:
Don't agree with that, he's under contract I think more people would honour it than not. After June 30th I'd have no problem with him not playing.JamesSeed said:99% of us would do exactly the same as Lyle's doing, were we in the same situation. It’s a profession after all.Still gutted though.
I'm seeing it through professional integrity eyes. My anger is through a fan's eyes.Same applies to Chris Solly, who seems not to be taking as much stick as Lyle, even though we only have one other specialist right back.8 -
I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.
Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?
There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.
Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.
It's not football that's broken - it's society!15
