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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • Eddie Howe has left Bournemouth
    Thats Bournemouth f**ked then, he was their version of Curbishley
  • Tempted to have a tenner on them dropping straight through. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Rothko said:
    He stunned if Howe got a job beyond the Championship 
    Totally agree with this. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Where now for Howe, that’s a big question.

    He might have some time away but really needs to make the next job a good one otherwise look what did happen to Curbs.

    Clubs will look and think did it only work because it was Bournemouth?

    Could see him going abroad and doing quite well to be honest. Clearly a good coach and his attacking philosophy might suit another country.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Palace maybe? I cant see Hodgson lasting much longer
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,018
    Only premier league teams I think he could go to are Newcastle or West Ham but don't see Moyes or Bruce getting sacked

    Maybe Watford but doubt he'd work for their owners.

    Probably end up somewhere like Forest or Norwich if Farke goes
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I actually don’t think he’s progressed as a manager for a couple of years now, Bournemouth defensively were terrible, and he’s spent a lot of money on a lot of very very average footballers 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    The rumour was that Eddie Howe was being moulded for Arsenal after Wenger.

    he takes full responsibility for the playing staff and controls their diets what they do where they go etcetera not just the match day situation.

    He may actually be better suited to overseas and it wouldn’t surprise me if he maybe went to Germany
  • Lot of people seem to be writing him off. He's literally had one bad season.

    Saved them in league 2, then got them promoted, then made league one play offs. Left. Came back and got them promoted straight away out of league one, two years later won the championship, then kept a club that has a 12k stadium in the premier league for 5 seasons.

    He won't be short of offers. He'll be back in the premier league before Bournemouth, of that i have no doubt.
  • I really rate him! But I thought esi were our saviours
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Lot of people seem to be writing him off. He's literally had one bad season.

    Saved them in league 2, then got them promoted, then made league one play offs. Left. Came back and got them promoted straight away out of league one, two years later won the championship, then kept a club that has a 12k stadium in the premier league for 5 seasons.

    He won't be short of offers. He'll be back in the premier league before Bournemouth, of that i have no doubt.


    I agree; Eddie Howe is still only 42.
    He took over when Bournemouth were in danger of losing their place in the League.
    The master class when they won at the Valley was very impressive. Instead of using Yann as a battering ram, Howe played him as a number 10 and he got the ball on the desk in the build up moves, and Wilson, Pugh, Richie and Arter would do the movement and he found them all the time with pin point passing. He turned Simon Francis and Charlie Daniels into Premier players by playing them as wing backs
    ( before converting Francis into a CB)
    The big money signings have disappointed despite coming from Liverpool: Solanke and Jordan Ibe. 

    The Challenge for Eddie Howe is can he succeed somewhere other than Bournemouth ? Burnley never worked out for him but his record on the south coast is Jimmy Seedesque.

  • If he doesn’t move his family, he is very limited in options......Bristol city?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    If he doesn’t move his family, he is very limited in options......Bristol city?
    His kids are older now, 

    He could probably move for the right job. 
  • Richard J said:
    If he doesn’t move his family, he is very limited in options......Bristol city?
    His kids are older now, 

    He could probably move for the right job. 
    Still of school age though? 
  • I can see Howe at somewhere like Palace or West Ham by the end of next season.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    edited August 2020
    Richard J said:
    If he doesn’t move his family, he is very limited in options......Bristol city?
    His kids are older now, 

    He could probably move for the right job. 
    Still of school age though? 
    Yeah, eldest two are primary school. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    Rothko said:
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
    Yes, his real talent is with the L1 players he turned into PL ones
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Eddie Howe won’t be short of offers. You’ll be hard pressed to find anyone with the sort of experience he has in English football at such a young age.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Rothko said:
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
    Not to mention Brad Smith for £6m who ended up on loan in the MLS and Jordon Ibe £19m and has been released. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited August 2020
    Rothko said:
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
    Are they his decisions though or as we've seen from "Sunderland Till I Die" is that the fault of the board? - Take the Will Grigg fiasco for example

    Eddie Howe will surely just go to them with his transfer targets and those with the actual money will do the negotiating - I remember from Curbishley's book that it was Richard Murray who dealt with Grimsby when we tried to get Clive Mendonca and Curbs was actually on holiday when those talks happened

    Even in our case now its Gallen who makes the financial decisions (transfer fees / wages etc.), Bowyer just confirms if he wants the player or not and goes along to help sway the player

    Seems to be a common perception (Maybe from Football Manager I dont know) that the Manager will simply be given a war chest and will be allowed to do what they want

    In this situation I imagine the way it becomes Howe's fault is if the board go back to him and say they couldnt do a deal only for Howe to put pressure on them to state that whoever they're after would be an important signing etc. Even then though the board can still put their foot down if they want and say no surely?
  • A managerial appointment that seems to have gone under the radar is that Eddie Newton has been given the Trabzonspor job.

    He left Chelsea a few months ago to go there as assistant boss, then when they fucked the league up in the last few games they sacked their manager. Newton took over as caretaker, won the Turkish cup and has been given the job permanently.

    Fair play to him, hope he takes his chance after many years as an assistant.
  • Rothko said:
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
    Not to mention Brad Smith for £6m who ended up on loan in the MLS and Jordon Ibe £19m and has been released. 
    I think there's some merit in the argument he was better at putting a team together that was greater than the sum of its parts but in addition to the "flops" signed above he also signed David Brooks, Ramsdale, Ake, Wilson, Cook, etc. and turned them into established Premier League or International level players. 
  • all managers signing can be dissected to make him look good or bad.

    bowyer signed hemed!!!

    bowyer signed Lockyer, Matthews, Bonne, cullern etc

    depends how you want to read it
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53628740

    Fair analysis of Eddie Howe in this BBC article. Good that it mentions the FFP fine and the Russian owner too
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    No doubt Howe did well for them. 

    The question is could he replicate that elsewhere. 
  • Rothko said:
    He needs to do something about his transfer dealings, Lermer was £25m, Solanki £19m, Rico £13.5, £12m for Chris Mepham and then this year £16m on Danjuma and £13m on Lloyd Kelly. That's a lot of shit brought for a lot of money, and I suspect Howe made the call on all of them
    Not to mention Brad Smith for £6m who ended up on loan in the MLS and Jordon Ibe £19m and has been released. 
    I think there's some merit in the argument he was better at putting a team together that was greater than the sum of its parts but in addition to the "flops" signed above he also signed David Brooks, Ramsdale, Ake, Wilson, Cook, etc. and turned them into established Premier League or International level players. 
    Our ex-player Harry Arter too, signed him for 4k from Woking, ended up a premier league and international player. Ryan Fraser for 400k, again ended up a premier league and international player.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,856
    Richard J said:
    No doubt Howe did well for them. 

    The question is could he replicate that elsewhere. 
    Didn’t at Burnley 
  • Leam Richardson has been named the new Wigan Manager

    Was the Assistant Manager under Paul Cook
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Leam Richardson has been named the new Wigan Manager

    Was the Assistant Manager under Paul Cook
    Not quite, he has been put in charge of the 1st team when they return for pre season, he has not been appointed on a permanent basis.