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Why are so many people not wearing face masks?
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Since 27th August it's been compulsory to wear a face mask in the following places
- public transport (aeroplanes, trains, trams and buses)
- transport hubs (airports, rail and tram stations and terminals, maritime ports and terminals, bus and coach stations and terminals)
- shops and supermarkets (places which offer goods or services for retail sale or hire)
- shopping centres (malls and indoor markets)
- auction houses
- premises providing professional, legal or financial services (post offices, banks, building societies, high-street solicitors and accountants, credit unions, short-term loan providers, savings clubs and money service businesses)
- premises providing personal care and beauty treatments (hair salons, barbers, nail salons, massage centres, tattoo and piercing parlours)
- premises providing veterinary services
- visitor attractions and entertainment venues (museums, galleries, cinemas, theatres, concert halls, cultural and heritage sites, aquariums, indoor zoos and visitor farms, bingo halls, amusement arcades, adventure activity centres, indoor sports stadiums, funfairs, theme parks, casinos, skating rinks, bowling alleys, indoor play areas including soft-play areas)
- libraries and public reading rooms
- places of worship
- funeral service providers (funeral homes, crematoria and burial ground chapels)
- community centres, youth centres and social clubs
- exhibition halls and conference centres
- public areas in hotels and hostels
- storage and distribution facilities
Since that date, the daily 7 day average has increased every single day from 1.244 to the current 3,286. That's 2,000 additional daily cases since the compulsory wearing of face coverings.
Does this mean that face coverings have prevented the so called second phase from being as severe as the first, or does it mean that face coverings are having little effect on slowing down the spread of the virus?0 -
Didnt Paris around the same time announce everyone had to wear a mask in public?Addickted said:Since 27th August it's been compulsory to wear a face mask in the following places- public transport (aeroplanes, trains, trams and buses)
- transport hubs (airports, rail and tram stations and terminals, maritime ports and terminals, bus and coach stations and terminals)
- shops and supermarkets (places which offer goods or services for retail sale or hire)
- shopping centres (malls and indoor markets)
- auction houses
- premises providing professional, legal or financial services (post offices, banks, building societies, high-street solicitors and accountants, credit unions, short-term loan providers, savings clubs and money service businesses)
- premises providing personal care and beauty treatments (hair salons, barbers, nail salons, massage centres, tattoo and piercing parlours)
- premises providing veterinary services
- visitor attractions and entertainment venues (museums, galleries, cinemas, theatres, concert halls, cultural and heritage sites, aquariums, indoor zoos and visitor farms, bingo halls, amusement arcades, adventure activity centres, indoor sports stadiums, funfairs, theme parks, casinos, skating rinks, bowling alleys, indoor play areas including soft-play areas)
- libraries and public reading rooms
- places of worship
- funeral service providers (funeral homes, crematoria and burial ground chapels)
- community centres, youth centres and social clubs
- exhibition halls and conference centres
- public areas in hotels and hostels
- storage and distribution facilities
Since that date, the daily 7 day average has increased every single day from 1.244 to the current 3,286. That's 2,000 additional daily cases since the compulsory wearing of face coverings.
Does this mean that face coverings have prevented the so called second phase from being as severe as the first, or does it mean that face coverings are having little effect on slowing down the spread of the virus?
Has their infection rate gone down since then?0 -
The idea is they are around 80% effective and need to be implemented alongside social distancing. If they had been worn at the start when cases were very low it would have stopped a huge spread and kept cases low(look at Japan, Korea for eg) and made the virus more manageable.Addickted said:Since 27th August it's been compulsory to wear a face mask in the following places- public transport (aeroplanes, trains, trams and buses)
- transport hubs (airports, rail and tram stations and terminals, maritime ports and terminals, bus and coach stations and terminals)
- shops and supermarkets (places which offer goods or services for retail sale or hire)
- shopping centres (malls and indoor markets)
- auction houses
- premises providing professional, legal or financial services (post offices, banks, building societies, high-street solicitors and accountants, credit unions, short-term loan providers, savings clubs and money service businesses)
- premises providing personal care and beauty treatments (hair salons, barbers, nail salons, massage centres, tattoo and piercing parlours)
- premises providing veterinary services
- visitor attractions and entertainment venues (museums, galleries, cinemas, theatres, concert halls, cultural and heritage sites, aquariums, indoor zoos and visitor farms, bingo halls, amusement arcades, adventure activity centres, indoor sports stadiums, funfairs, theme parks, casinos, skating rinks, bowling alleys, indoor play areas including soft-play areas)
- libraries and public reading rooms
- places of worship
- funeral service providers (funeral homes, crematoria and burial ground chapels)
- community centres, youth centres and social clubs
- exhibition halls and conference centres
- public areas in hotels and hostels
- storage and distribution facilities
Since that date, the daily 7 day average has increased every single day from 1.244 to the current 3,286. That's 2,000 additional daily cases since the compulsory wearing of face coverings.
Does this mean that face coverings have prevented the so called second phase from being as severe as the first, or does it mean that face coverings are having little effect on slowing down the spread of the virus?
When cases are 1000+ a day (and these are only the captured ones), schools pubs etc are reopened and you can visit as many households as you want without a mask, facemasks will slow down the spread but are never going to stop it completely. So its the former - cases would have been way higher had the rule not been implemented.
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OK I’m just beyond trying to explain / understand why people are still not wearing masks. There is no excuse and those who are exempted should get a visor. Even after we’ve been warned that another wave of infections & deaths (and lockdown) are imminent people are still not taking this seriously.Only logged on to lol a post about an alpaca 🦙 but a rant was required.
Still a bloody awful year all round IMO.
I want (1) A vaccine (2) A takeover (3) Trump not to be re-elected (4) A camelid mascot of some sort. (5) To go to a game (6) To watch cricket 🏏 with a crowd & (7) A beer festival (which if 1 - 6 happen on the same day would be a hoot).3 -
On my daily constitutional walk yesterday (2.7 miles) I counted 14 discarded masks. Fat lot of good they're doing laying in the gutter releasing their viral spores everywhere. I know I've said it earlier in the thread, but I just don't get what these filthy bits of cloth bring to the table after they've been taken on and off, put in pockets, waved around, reused, dumped on the streets or even in bins for that matter. Social distancing is the key.
I do wear a mask in order to conform and to appease peoples sensibilities, but for me its a case of the kings new clothes.5 -
What’s funnier is people that get on trains get there self sorted, laptop/iPad out music on and then put face mask on1
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if you are unable to see the benefit of the mask I suggest you keep doing your daily walk but in a straight line and hopefully in 10 days you will be 27 miles further away from me9
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Apparently you are meant to cut the string pieces of the masks before they are put in the bin as better for the wildlife. See loads of face masks discarded on the floor, during my lunch time walks, especially by train stations and shops.Raith_C_Chattonell said:On my daily constitutional walk yesterday (2.7 miles) I counted 14 discarded masks. Fat lot of good they're doing laying in the gutter releasing their viral spores everywhere. I know I've said it earlier in the thread, but I just don't get what these filthy bits of cloth bring to the table after they've been taken on and off, put in pockets, waved around, reused, dumped on the streets or even in bins for that matter. Social distancing is the key.
I do wear a mask in order to conform and to appease peoples sensibilities, but for me its a case of the kings new clothes.2 -
Im just on the train once again and everyone in my carriage wearing one. No doubt when I pull into charing cross I'll see many of the station staff not wearing one.0
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If they are properly disposed of, then they won't get as far as affecting wildlife. The same morons that leave their rubbish for others to clear up, are the same people who don't dispose of their masks properly.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Apparently you are meant to cut the string pieces of the masks before they are put in the bin as better for the wildlife. See loads of face masks discarded on the floor, during my lunch time walks, especially by train stations and shops.Raith_C_Chattonell said:On my daily constitutional walk yesterday (2.7 miles) I counted 14 discarded masks. Fat lot of good they're doing laying in the gutter releasing their viral spores everywhere. I know I've said it earlier in the thread, but I just don't get what these filthy bits of cloth bring to the table after they've been taken on and off, put in pockets, waved around, reused, dumped on the streets or even in bins for that matter. Social distancing is the key.
I do wear a mask in order to conform and to appease peoples sensibilities, but for me its a case of the kings new clothes.6 - Sponsored links:
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Just my opinion MOL, not here to trade insults.MrOneLung said:if you are unable to see the benefit of the mask I suggest you keep doing your daily walk but in a straight line and hopefully in 10 days you will be 27 miles further away from me1 -
Yes, Mc Donalds wrappers (other outlets available), empty bottles and cans, legal high bombs all garnished with nice blue discarded COVID masks now decorate our streets.Raith_C_Chattonell said:On my daily constitutional walk yesterday (2.7 miles) I counted 14 discarded masks. Fat lot of good they're doing laying in the gutter releasing their viral spores everywhere. I know I've said it earlier in the thread, but I just don't get what these filthy bits of cloth bring to the table after they've been taken on and off, put in pockets, waved around, reused, dumped on the streets or even in bins for that matter. Social distancing is the key.
I do wear a mask in order to conform and to appease peoples sensibilities, but for me its a case of the kings new clothes.
Wonderful! Welcome to the 'new normal!'
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I think we should pay for all the anti maskers to go on a lovely free flight around Britain.
Just as they reach the Outer Hebrides the pilot should de-pressurize the plane and send it into a dive until the oxygen masks drop.
Then see who is really anti mask and who is just a whining, contrary attention seeker. And screen it as a C4 series8 -
O-Randy-Hunt said:Im just on the train once again and everyone in my carriage wearing one. No doubt when I pull into charing cross I'll see many of the station staff not wearing one.
That's the thing that really annoys me. Staff in stations and shops not wearing them when they are the people most likely to spread the virus...
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It's been like that for weeks. This is on the gov website where masks must be worn.JoshrewCAFC said:O-Randy-Hunt said:Im just on the train once again and everyone in my carriage wearing one. No doubt when I pull into charing cross I'll see many of the station staff not wearing one.
That's the thing that really annoys me. Staff in stations and shops not wearing them when they are the people most likely to spread the virus...
transport hubs (airports, rail and tram stations and terminals, maritime ports and terminals, bus and coach stations and terminals)
As soon as I stepped off the train this morning, the 1st member of staff I see on the platform didnt have one on. I understand medical exemptions but I dont believe the amount of staff inside the station are all in the same boat. Baffles me.2 -
Police were at Canary Wharf DLR this morning pulling people over if they weren’t in masks as they got off the train. Don’t know if they were issuing fines or just advising.5
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Becoming compulsory outside in Italy... can't wait.
To be fair, if it's in crowded high street I wouldn't mind (the councils could put signs up?), although I wouldn't be too happy about wearing one knocking the football around with my kids in the park.
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Another London bus driver has died of Covid. Time surely for no mask, no boarding to be enforced.
Still a LOT of mainly young people are not bothering.4 -
Sounds like face masks might become compulsory in offices, when we hear of new restrictions brought in on Monday.0
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Agreed, but who will enforce it? Sadly I would predict that a high percentage of those I see not wearing masks or not wearing them properly would kick off. Or just take them off once on as only wear them on their chin in case they need to wear them to avoid a fineBaldybonce said:Another London bus driver has died of Covid. Time surely for no mask, no boarding to be enforced.
Still a LOT of mainly young people are not bothering.2 -
At Bluewater earlier this week, I only saw a handful of people not wearing a mask ... strangely enough all women, in their 30s/40s, the same age range I have seen in supermarkets.No doubt that the vast majority are complying at the moment.0
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In shops I must have seen about 98% compliance.
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Yeah was at Bluewater today and anyone not wearing was a real odd man outEastTerrace said:In shops I must have seen about 98% compliance.0 -
I take it that staff working on petrol stations have to wear a mask?0
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Whenever I go in the Sainsburys local round the corner from me there is at least one customer not wearing a mask (not me before someone asks!), They even have a security guard. If I worked there I would simply refuse to serve anyone that did not wear a mask.1
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Our local sainsburys have a guard on the door making sure everyone has a mask, if they come up with an excuse like they forgot etc the guard hands them one. Good system and shows those people up in front of anyone else.Athletico Charlton said:Whenever I go in the Sainsburys local round the corner from me there is at least one customer not wearing a mask (not me before someone asks!), They even have a security guard. If I worked there I would simply refuse to serve anyone that did not wear a mask.2 -
The ones I’ve seen, without, have been behind the counter with a plastic screen as well .Todds_right_hook said:I take it that staff working on petrol stations have to wear a mask?
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I work in a Supermarket, we can ask but we are not allowed to prevent entry or insist someone wears a mask. We have a few customers who persistently refuse to wear a mask (one because its all a government conspiracy). I cant see why I cant refuse to serve them. Why should I have to put myself and my family in danger just because of these wankers28
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Petrol station on Greenhithe, 3 staff none wearing.oohaahmortimer said:
The ones I’ve seen, without, have been behind the counter with a plastic screen as well .Todds_right_hook said:I take it that staff working on petrol stations have to wear a mask?0
