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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,787
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    If this is correct we have a good chance. It’s no coincidence we get good midfield loan signings, Gallagher, Levitt, etc. What premier league manager would not want their young midfielders to learn from LB?
    I hope it's correct because it came straight from the player, who told the person that messaged me 
    Can't be easy reading your messages with all that chocolate ice cream on the screen! 
    Looks more like dog diarrhoea that chocolate ice cream.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    People had a go at me because I expect to have a successful season. And I still do. I think we have enough more than decent players with more to come to mean that we should all be expecting it and not be making excuses in advance for not doing so.
  • SamE7
    SamE7 Posts: 276
    People had a go at me because I expect to have a successful season. And I still do. I think we have enough more than decent players with more to come to mean that we should all be expecting it and not be making excuses in advance for not doing so.
    You mean like a salary cap, preventing us from bringing the players we actually want in? Yeah, that's just crazy talk isn't it..
  • Friday will be a very busy day I think 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    SamE7 said:
    People had a go at me because I expect to have a successful season. And I still do. I think we have enough more than decent players with more to come to mean that we should all be expecting it and not be making excuses in advance for not doing so.
    You mean like a salary cap, preventing us from bringing the players we actually want in? Yeah, that's just crazy talk isn't it..
    Yes, but we do have decent players in already and we need to see what happens this week. It certainly isn't ideal but we can still strengthen the squad.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    You have got to wonder what the January Transfer window is going to look like for L1 and L2 clubs. 
    One in one out on the same wages ? Or will it only be U21's that will be incoming  ?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited October 2020
    I think the cap needs refining as it surely disadvantages older players more than it disadvantages us in particular. The problem with football is that decisions are made around self interest rather than bettering the game. But these decisions go both ways depending on who is making them. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    if if I was TS and had the will and funds, I would be splashing a bit of cash on 19 to 20 year olds from Prem/Championship academies, who are not quite making the cut there. Avoid the cap issue, basically. Am sure they must be thinking of this...
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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Looking like the CB will be a permanent 

    Suspect that the three loans will be a left back, midfielder ( winger)  and a striker  
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    It's just our luck that when we finally get in an owner seemingly willing to invest properly there's a cap blocking our way. It's absolutely ridiculous that teams were allowed to get their business done before the cap came in, but I suppose there's not a lot you can do to prevent that. I don't see the cap lasting that long, and it was always going to be years before we pulled ourselves out from under Roland's legacy, so hopefully we will do some decent enough business before the window closes and repair some of the damage before the cap gets altered to something more reasonable
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    January will be a quiet window for us. ☹️
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    edited October 2020
    A CB just become number one priority I suspect 

  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    The cap needs to be voted on every season IMO.  It seems unfair that we are subject to a cap that we didn't even get the chance to vote for or against?  At least I think it was voted on before we were relegated.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    I think the cap needs refining as it surely disadvantages older players more than it disadvantages us in particular. The problem with football is that decisions are made around self interest rather than bettering the game. But these decisions go both ways depending on who is making them. 
    I can see why there is a cap - but you have got to wonder if there is a case for age descrimination, or restraint of trade here . If you are under 21 you can earn whatever someone will pay you but of you are over 21 it falls within a cap ? 
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    cafc-west said:
    The cap needs to be voted on every season IMO.  It seems unfair that we are subject to a cap that we didn't even get the chance to vote for or against?  At least I think it was voted on before we were relegated.
    It was voted after our relegation 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    MattF said:
    cafc-west said:
    The cap needs to be voted on every season IMO.  It seems unfair that we are subject to a cap that we didn't even get the chance to vote for or against?  At least I think it was voted on before we were relegated.
    It was voted after our relegation 
    Ok thanks...didn't realise - I just thought we were subjected to it.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I’m not expecting miracles this week. A couple of signings that’ll make us more competitive maybe. And I expect the rest of the season to be a bit of a struggle, only helped by the fact that the bookies favourites like Sunderland aren’t all that. I’d love to be anywhere near the playoffs in fact. 

    But if you’d offered me this scenario earlier in the year I’d have bitten your hand off. 
  • Moo
    Moo Posts: 311
    Need to get Phillips out the door to free up some wages. 
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  • if if I was TS and had the will and funds, I would be splashing a bit of cash on 19 to 20 year olds from Prem/Championship academies, who are not quite making the cut there. Avoid the cap issue, basically. Am sure they must be thinking of this...
    Investing in young talent is the only way to circumvent the cap and is also good business for all selling clubs who want to grow transfer income - which should be what pretty much every club in the country apart from the biggest few should be doing.

    However that change in strategy can't come at short notice. If it does the chances of signing duds rockets.

    You need proper long term planning to work that model and you ideally need to look outside the UK as well to maximise the available talent pool and profitability. That's not going to happen now or probably in January either.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    edited October 2020
    Here we go, in terms of picking up numerous injuries already. Gilbey, Pearce, Oshilaja out and all 3 are first team players for us. 2 injured mid/long term from training.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    That is why we need a squad. I doubt many teams are injury free.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    The only thing guaranteed is that whatever chump or hero we get you’ll have the give the 1 in 10 striker a chance or he’s ratio of 1 in 2 was in a lower league he’s pony 
    it’s what he does at Charlton that counts
    hopefully he’s over his injury problems
    hes played with whales 35 times 
    and fed sharks 
    remember Yann we’d never heard of him 
    Bonne scored 11 in the Championship last year 
    remember Nicky Ajose 
    in bowyer we trust 
    I’m just glad I’ve got a club to watch
    could be worse we could be palace millwall gillingham orient 
    load of shit we’re 17th in league one 
    in Thomas we trust



    And your point is
    There's no real point ...... it was 7.30 in the morning and OohAah was sitting on the bog reading Charlton Life as usual. :smile:


  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    Do we know if the salary cap is 100% here to stay? 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    cafc-west said:
    The cap needs to be voted on every season IMO.  It seems unfair that we are subject to a cap that we didn't even get the chance to vote for or against?  At least I think it was voted on before we were relegated.
    August 7th.

    Which is why most League One clubs more or less sorted out their squads before that date.
    Those that could pay bigger wages than the cap made sure they did so.


  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    J BLOCK said:
    Do we know if the salary cap is 100% here to stay? 
    In principal, yes.

    This year 22 senior players per squad (not counting U21s).

    Next season 21 senior players.

    Season after. 20 senior players.

    It's here to stay - unless a majority of League One clubs vote it out at the EFL AGM each summer.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    mendonca said:
    Here we go, in terms of picking up numerous injuries already. Gilbey, Pearce, Oshilaja out and all 3 are first team players for us. 2 injured mid/long term from training.
    It does beg the question: why so many players are injured in training?

    I know the intention is that 'match situations and intensity' is replicated in training ....... but it does seem most of our players get their injuries in training rather than matches?


  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    if if I was TS and had the will and funds, I would be splashing a bit of cash on 19 to 20 year olds from Prem/Championship academies, who are not quite making the cut there. Avoid the cap issue, basically. Am sure they must be thinking of this...
    Or perhaps any outstanding League 1/2 players of that age who have broken through.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited October 2020
    What we need is for a new system that replaces the one in which all clubs get an equal vote.

    You could call it “Project Big Picture”, one change for me would be to only allow the top 6 League 1 clubs to vote, based on record attendance, the owners wealth, stadium capacity, FA Cup wins, seasons in the Premier League etc.

    This way we’d ensure any rules around financial fair play suit us. Why shouldn’t they, we’re one of the biggest clubs in this division.