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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
The day traders play havoc with some of the shares and there can be a 50% shift in a single day.0 -
I suppose with the casinos closed day trading fills a void.6
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golfaddick said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
Just my opinion.3 -
@Huskaris
For clarity I used the term "orange baboon" as a shorthand for "a US President who is displaying unprecedented contempt for the conventions of orderly handover after losing an election, and is moving ahead with alarming political firings and and hirings in key national positions". Such unprecedented behaviour has the ability to disturb markets. For clarity, I used the term "Out means Out" as a shorthand for the fact that on January 2nd the UK border will be treated by the EU as a third country, and there will not be free movement, particularly of freight; it is by no means clear that the UK has invested and recruited sufficiently to handle that situation. Such an unprecedented situation has the ability to disturb markets.
Hope that helps.3 -
kentaddick said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
The day traders play havoc with some of the shares and there can be a 50% shift in a single day.
It's an educated guess as to which of the stocks will take off on AIM. If you're day trading you have to get your timing right and be on a decent platform that doesn't crash if you need to buy or sell. Quite a few problems this week.
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Rob7Lee said:
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Despite the overwhelming optimism above, I'm still not convinced we are out of this contest yet!
Just suppose something goes wrong in the final trials for the vaccine? That's not impossible - you probably heard the warning Professor Van-Tam gave on the steps it still had to pass. Or the Brexit talks - @Huskaris may well be right the market is already pricing in no deal but if that happens, I assume markets will take a huge hit down.
In America, Trump shows no signs of stepping down. Could that go badly wrong?
And all this against a terrible economic background. Unemployment going through the roof and borrowing at about all time highs. Sooner or later this is going to have to be paid for. Taxes are going to go up.
Lot to play for yet!
(PS I hope I'm wildly out!)2 -
WishIdStayedinthePub said:golfaddick said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
Just my opinion.4 -
PragueAddick said:@Huskaris
For clarity I used the term "orange baboon" as a shorthand for "a US President who is displaying unprecedented contempt for the conventions of orderly handover after losing an election, and is moving ahead with alarming political firings and and hirings in key national positions". Such unprecedented behaviour has the ability to disturb markets. For clarity, I used the term "Out means Out" as a shorthand for the fact that on January 2nd the UK border will be treated by the EU as a third country, and there will not be free movement, particularly of freight; it is by no means clear that the UK has invested and recruited sufficiently to handle that situation. Such an unprecedented situation has the ability to disturb markets.
Hope that helps.
Anyway I don't want to escalate it so:
Your number - 6,450
My number - 6,825
FTSE 100 now - 6,318
Middle number - 6,637.5
£20 to the upbeats from me if under 6,637.5, £20 from you if over?
Oh and if you're within 50 points either side of your projection I will make it £500 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:Rob7Lee said:
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gunnessaddick
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LargeAddick
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Huskaris
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meldrew66
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Daarrrzzettbum
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Covered End
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wwaddick
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HardyAddick
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CAFCsayer
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Salad
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oohaahmortimer
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Gary Poole
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5000
Despite the overwhelming optimism above, I'm still not convinced we are out of this contest yet!
Just suppose something goes wrong in the final trials for the vaccine? That's not impossible - you probably heard the waning Professor Van-Tam gave on the steps it still had to pass. Or the Brexit talks - @Huskaris may well be right the market is already pricing in no deal but if that happens, I assume markets will take a huge hit down.
In America, Trump shows no signs of stepping down. Could that go badly wrong?
And all this against a terrible economic background. Unemployment going through the roof and borrowing at about all time highs. Sooner or later this is going to have to be paid for. Taxes are going to go up.
Lot to play for yet!
(PS I hope I'm wildly out!)
Then for the longer term it will be the stimulus packages, which in my opinion will be largely funded by mass printing of money, globally, and hopefully in a co-ordinated manner most importantly.1 -
Huskaris said:Fortune 82nd Minute said:Rob7Lee said:
bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
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meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
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golfaddick
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CharltonKerry
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PragueAddick
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Rob7Lee
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RalphMilne
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Exiledin Manchester
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happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
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WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
Despite the overwhelming optimism above, I'm still not convinced we are out of this contest yet!
Just suppose something goes wrong in the final trials for the vaccine? That's not impossible - you probably heard the waning Professor Van-Tam gave on the steps it still had to pass. Or the Brexit talks - @Huskaris may well be right the market is already pricing in no deal but if that happens, I assume markets will take a huge hit down.
In America, Trump shows no signs of stepping down. Could that go badly wrong?
And all this against a terrible economic background. Unemployment going through the roof and borrowing at about all time highs. Sooner or later this is going to have to be paid for. Taxes are going to go up.
Lot to play for yet!
(PS I hope I'm wildly out!)
Then for the longer term it will be the stimulus packages, which in my opinion will be largely funded by mass printing of money, globally, and hopefully in a co-ordinated manner most importantly.
Rampant inflation is the other consequence of printing money, of course.1 - Sponsored links:
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bobmunro said:Huskaris said:Fortune 82nd Minute said:Rob7Lee said:
bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
6825
meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
6700
golfaddick
6666
CharltonKerry
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PragueAddick
6450
Rob7Lee
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RalphMilne
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Exiledin Manchester
6320
happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
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WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
Despite the overwhelming optimism above, I'm still not convinced we are out of this contest yet!
Just suppose something goes wrong in the final trials for the vaccine? That's not impossible - you probably heard the waning Professor Van-Tam gave on the steps it still had to pass. Or the Brexit talks - @Huskaris may well be right the market is already pricing in no deal but if that happens, I assume markets will take a huge hit down.
In America, Trump shows no signs of stepping down. Could that go badly wrong?
And all this against a terrible economic background. Unemployment going through the roof and borrowing at about all time highs. Sooner or later this is going to have to be paid for. Taxes are going to go up.
Lot to play for yet!
(PS I hope I'm wildly out!)
Then for the longer term it will be the stimulus packages, which in my opinion will be largely funded by mass printing of money, globally, and hopefully in a co-ordinated manner most importantly.
Rampant inflation is the other consequence of printing money, of course.
Your point on China is a fantastic one though...!
Couples with the fact that in my opinion, we are more likely to be entering a period of deflation rather than inflation (I can see demand side being hit far harder than supply side, capacity will be there just no demand, prices fall and then supply will also contract, but later as companies are forced to leave the market), I think that this is the perfect scenario, if ever there can be one, for printing a shedload of money.
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Won't be seeing both inflation & interest rates above 2.5% for a good few years. Negative interest rates are still being mooted but I listened yesterday to a webinar from a bloke on the BoE interest rate setting committee & he said that the Banks have an inherent dislike to negative rates. They fear the public will withdraw their savings as holding "paper money" wont lose them anything & the banks then will have less reserves to lend out. My fear is more basic. Burglaries. Imagine people taking out their savings & keeping it "under the mattress". It wouldn't take long for thieves to be raiding people's houses thinking that there could be loads of cash inside.3
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Huskaris said:bobmunro said:Huskaris said:Fortune 82nd Minute said:Rob7Lee said:
bobmunro
7395
Mronelung
7200
gunnessaddick
6969
LargeAddick
6899
Huskaris
6825
meldrew66
6789
Daarrrzzettbum
6750
Covered End
6700
golfaddick
6666
CharltonKerry
6649
PragueAddick
6450
Rob7Lee
6420
RalphMilne
6397
Exiledin Manchester
6320
happy valley
6299
blackpool72
6255
StrikerFirmani
6250
WishIdStayedInThe Pub
6232
wwaddick
6013
HardyAddick
5950
CAFCsayer
5948
Salad
5897
oohaahmortimer
5750
Gary Poole
5450
5000
Despite the overwhelming optimism above, I'm still not convinced we are out of this contest yet!
Just suppose something goes wrong in the final trials for the vaccine? That's not impossible - you probably heard the waning Professor Van-Tam gave on the steps it still had to pass. Or the Brexit talks - @Huskaris may well be right the market is already pricing in no deal but if that happens, I assume markets will take a huge hit down.
In America, Trump shows no signs of stepping down. Could that go badly wrong?
And all this against a terrible economic background. Unemployment going through the roof and borrowing at about all time highs. Sooner or later this is going to have to be paid for. Taxes are going to go up.
Lot to play for yet!
(PS I hope I'm wildly out!)
Then for the longer term it will be the stimulus packages, which in my opinion will be largely funded by mass printing of money, globally, and hopefully in a co-ordinated manner most importantly.
Rampant inflation is the other consequence of printing money, of course.
Your point on China is a fantastic one though...!
Couples with the fact that in my opinion, we are more likely to be entering a period of deflation rather than inflation (I can see demand side being hit far harder than supply side, capacity will be there just no demand, prices fall and then supply will also contract, but later as companies are forced to leave the market), I think that this is the perfect scenario, if ever there can be one, for printing a shedload of money.0 -
golfaddick said:Won't be seeing both inflation & interest rates above 2.5% for a good few years. Negative interest rates are still being mooted but I listened yesterday to a webinar from a bloke on the BoE interest rate setting committee & he said that the Banks have an inherent dislike to negative rates. They fear the public will withdraw their savings as holding "paper money" wont lose them anything & the banks then will have less reserves to lend out. My fear is more basic. Burglaries. Imagine people taking out their savings & keeping it "under the mattress". It wouldn't take long for thieves to be raiding people's houses thinking that there could be loads of cash inside.
I think they'll just keep printing money. Although the BoE said that they are near their balance sheet 'limit' that is self-imposed and can be changed.0 -
WishIdStayedinthePub said:golfaddick said:Won't be seeing both inflation & interest rates above 2.5% for a good few years. Negative interest rates are still being mooted but I listened yesterday to a webinar from a bloke on the BoE interest rate setting committee & he said that the Banks have an inherent dislike to negative rates. They fear the public will withdraw their savings as holding "paper money" wont lose them anything & the banks then will have less reserves to lend out. My fear is more basic. Burglaries. Imagine people taking out their savings & keeping it "under the mattress". It wouldn't take long for thieves to be raiding people's houses thinking that there could be loads of cash inside.
I think they'll just keep printing money. Although the BoE said that they are near their balance sheet 'limit' that is self-imposed and can be changed.
I can't think of many reasons why you would choose to have negative interest rates over printing money.
And to combine that with @hoof_it_up_to_benty's point about inflation at least eroding the amount the government owes, isn't the key way that Central Banks use QE to purchase government debt in the secondary markets? So that also reduces gov debt.
So in effect, a lot of the time when we talk about who is going to be paying for all of this debt we are creating, the answer seems to be... No one...0 -
Huskaris said:I suppose with the casinos closed day trading fills a void.0
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kentaddick said:Huskaris said:I suppose with the casinos closed day trading fills a void.2
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:kentaddick said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
The day traders play havoc with some of the shares and there can be a 50% shift in a single day.
It's an educated guess as to which of the stocks will take off on AIM. If you're day trading you have to get your timing right and be on a decent platform that doesn't crash if you need to buy or sell. Quite a few problems this week.0 -
Baillie Gifford China Growth Trust (previously Witan Pacific) looks good for the long term, especially with their track record but a few questions.
Currently the share price is at a near 30% premium. A general meeting has been called for the end of Nov, in which shareholders will be asked to allow the trust to issue another 20pc of stock. "All else being equal, bringing the premium under control means, of course, a fall in the share price."
If you hold a tidy profit in this, is it worth cashing out? Or if you are looking to hold for 5 years plus, just leave in?0 -
mendonca said:Baillie Gifford China Growth Trust (previously Witan Pacific) looks good for the long term, especially with their track record but a few questions.
Currently the share price is at a near 30% premium. A general meeting has been called for the end of Nov, in which shareholders will be asked to allow the trust to issue another 20pc of stock. "All else being equal, bringing the premium under control means, of course, a fall in the share price."
If you hold a tidy profit in this, is it worth cashing out? Or if you are looking to hold for 5 years plus, just leave in?0 - Sponsored links:
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:kentaddick said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
The day traders play havoc with some of the shares and there can be a 50% shift in a single day.
It's an educated guess as to which of the stocks will take off on AIM. If you're day trading you have to get your timing right and be on a decent platform that doesn't crash if you need to buy or sell. Quite a few problems this week.0 -
golfaddick said:Won't be seeing both inflation & interest rates above 2.5% for a good few years. Negative interest rates are still being mooted but I listened yesterday to a webinar from a bloke on the BoE interest rate setting committee & he said that the Banks have an inherent dislike to negative rates. They fear the public will withdraw their savings as holding "paper money" wont lose them anything & the banks then will have less reserves to lend out. My fear is more basic. Burglaries. Imagine people taking out their savings & keeping it "under the mattress". It wouldn't take long for thieves to be raiding people's houses thinking that there could be loads of cash inside.0
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:kentaddick said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:bobmunro said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Bangkokaddick said:I have around a quarter of my current portfolio in tech (ETFs). I think I'll hold as it is an ever evolving industry and although we might see the likes of Amazon, Zoom and Netflix dropping there must be plenty of stocks to take advantage of some sort of normality. That's my theory.
Cue tech plummet!!!
I've only put in a small amount and I think you'd have to have balls of steel to put in big money.
The day traders play havoc with some of the shares and there can be a 50% shift in a single day.
It's an educated guess as to which of the stocks will take off on AIM. If you're day trading you have to get your timing right and be on a decent platform that doesn't crash if you need to buy or sell. Quite a few problems this week.
If this technology does work the masks will be in high demand in industry/health.0 -
I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.
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golfaddick said:I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.0
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golfaddick said:I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.Monday was crazy I topped up on ODX shares and watched the share price melt, this Pfizer vaccine ain’t what it’s supposed to be (maybe for another thread). One thing for sure the FTSE benefitted, best week since April. ODX & EKF are going to fly in my humble opinion, test, test, test.0
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Had similar issues with Halifax Share Dealing. They also had two days where price feed was not working, so portfolio valuations were way out of date.0
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Daarrzzetbum said:golfaddick said:I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.Monday was crazy I topped up on ODX shares and watched the share price melt, this Pfizer vaccine ain’t what it’s supposed to be (maybe for another thread). One thing for sure the FTSE benefitted, best week since April. ODX & EKF are going to fly in my humble opinion, test, test, test.
I've not traded in such a turbulent market and it's hard to react or deal quickly enough.Trading platforms limit the private investor.
Tempted to put more into RMS and the antiviral mask - if it takes off it has to have massive potential in the near future.0 -
hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Daarrzzetbum said:golfaddick said:I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.Monday was crazy I topped up on ODX shares and watched the share price melt, this Pfizer vaccine ain’t what it’s supposed to be (maybe for another thread). One thing for sure the FTSE benefitted, best week since April. ODX & EKF are going to fly in my humble opinion, test, test, test.
I've not traded in such a turbulent market and it's hard to react or deal quickly enough.Trading platforms limit the private investor.
Tempted to put more into RMS and the antiviral mask - if it takes off it has to have massive potential in the near future.3 -
golfaddick said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Daarrzzetbum said:golfaddick said:I hear that a lot of customers are unhappy with HL due to their online systems going down or being very slow this week, especially on Monday when the markets moved & customers not being able to trade.Monday was crazy I topped up on ODX shares and watched the share price melt, this Pfizer vaccine ain’t what it’s supposed to be (maybe for another thread). One thing for sure the FTSE benefitted, best week since April. ODX & EKF are going to fly in my humble opinion, test, test, test.
I've not traded in such a turbulent market and it's hard to react or deal quickly enough.Trading platforms limit the private investor.
Tempted to put more into RMS and the antiviral mask - if it takes off it has to have massive potential in the near future.0