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Post-match Thread: Ipswich v Charlton | Sat 28 Nov 2020
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            Don't know if this has been aired, but any news on Smyth
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            I can’t remember one pass map this season where Watson has achieved less than 80% pass completion. Outstanding.3
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            Interesting on that map, how Amos distribution is so much more successful down the right, and
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Yes, hadn't noticed that. Maybe it's because Chuks was on the right more?eastterrace6168 said:Interesting on that map, how Amos distribution is so much more successful down the right, and
also highlighted on the heat map
Shocking that Smyth only made 4 passes, one of which was a defensive clearance0 - 
            
Yeah, you would think he should make more than that.killerandflash said:
Yes, hadn't noticed that. Maybe it's because Chuks was on the right more?eastterrace6168 said:Interesting on that map, how Amos distribution is so much more successful down the right, and
also highlighted on the heat map
Shocking that Smyth only made 4 passes, one of which was a defensive clearance
But Smyth is a busy player though, always moving, making runs, pulling defenders out of position, creating space, pressuring and being a nuisance.
Not many passes but plenty of involvement offball with the team's gameplan.
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            It is only when you see this chart that you realise how few times players touch the ball over the course of the game2
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Courtesy of Benjy Nurick but the below is Aneke's heatmap from Saturday, compare it with Amos' passingMattF said:

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Yes it's quite an eye opener, how many more times water carriers like Watson will touch the ball when compared to more attacking onesross1 said:It is only when you see this chart that you realise how few times players touch the ball over the course of the game0 - 
            
You won't believe this, Killer ....... but our sub 4 and sub 5 made even less passes than Smyth!killerandflash said:
Yes, hadn't noticed that. Maybe it's because Chuks was on the right more?eastterrace6168 said:Interesting on that map, how Amos distribution is so much more successful down the right, and
also highlighted on the heat map
Shocking that Smyth only made 4 passes, one of which was a defensive clearance
Shocking I know!
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            Quite interesting too that Albie had the least accuracy with passing apart from Purrington
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            I think this can be an issue with these sort of stats. There are other tiers of refinement needed for them to really tell the full story.
In the case of Morgan, I think it is highly likely based on what I watched that he was trying the passes that open up a team. There is more risk to these and many players don't have the vision to make them.4 - 
            
You'd expect the attacking midfielder to give the ball away more as he'll be trying the lower percentage forward passesMuttleyCAFC said:I think this can be an issue with these sort of stats. There are other tiers of refinement needed for them to really tell the full story.
In the case of Morgan, I think it is highly likely based on what I watched that he was trying the passes that open up a team. There is more risk to these and many players don't have the vision to make them.
I imagine KDB's percentage stats would be worse than Fernandinho's1 - 
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            I was surprised to see Ipswich in blue shorts. Made it easy for us to wear our complete home kit0
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6 wins against bottom half clubs.stoneroses19 said:Ipswich 18 points in 7 home games this season before today, so this win is a huge show of confidence to the boys today.
Then 0-3 to Hull, 0-2 to Charlton.0 - 
            
Suggests we saw Ipswich’s left back as a player Aneke could easily beat in the air.ForeverAddickted said:
Courtesy of Benjy Nurick but the below is Aneke's heatmap from Saturday, compare it with Amos' passingMattF said:

If they use move another player there then that leaves space elsewhere on the pitch.1 - 
            
A young Jimmy Seed speaks ..... proper Geordie accent to my ears.seth plum said:
Have you seen your Grandad on this @JamesSeed ?
Charlton in 1936, soon after consecutive promotions to the top tier First Division.
Good footage of the huge East Terrace, some of it still under construction.
I love seeing this sort of thing. Thanks for posting, Seth. @seth plum
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            Yes I have, it’s a great bit of footage.I always loved his accent, which was technically Makem rather than Geordie.1
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            Oggy Red said:
I see that Jimmy Seed grew up near Sunderland, so that would explain his Makem accent, then.JamesSeed said:Yes I have, it’s a great bit of footage.I always loved his accent, which was technically Makem rather than Geordie.
Two absolute legends, having Sunderland roots; Jimmy Seed for a very long time as manager and Clive Mendonca for a short time but gave Cafc fans their greatest day out ever at a mega stadium. 2019 wasn't too shabby and for the fans still alive the FA cup win in April 47 would be a magic memory (they won't have a clue what they did yesterday !)
I assume Clive Mendonca had South American roots on his paternal side. He played like a top Brazilian with that hatrick.0 - 
            
Eleven first teamers injured at the moment according to The Grauniad this morning.Exiled_Addick said:
Bit of both perhaps. They have injuries of their own to deal with.Bilko said:
I’ve got to be honest, it might be a case that the way we played made them look bad, excellent result.Bedsaddick said:Great result. Much better performance but how bad were Ipswich !0 - 
            
That’s correct, Clive’s paternal family are from Guyana. His uncle Ivor was a West Indies cricketer, something Clive himself only found out while playing for us as he’s not stayed in contact with his dad.soapboxsam said:Oggy Red said:
I see that Jimmy Seed grew up near Sunderland, so that would explain his Makem accent, then.JamesSeed said:Yes I have, it’s a great bit of footage.I always loved his accent, which was technically Makem rather than Geordie.
Two absolute legends, having Sunderland roots; Jimmy Seed for a very long time as manager and Clive Mendonca for a short time but gave Cafc fans their greatest day out ever at a mega stadium. 2019 wasn't too shabby and for the fans still alive the FA cup win in April 47 would be a magic memory (they won't have a clue what they did yesterday !)
I assume Clive Mendonca had South American roots on his paternal side. He played like a top Brazilian with that hatrick.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7068437/Clive-Mendonca-Wembley-hat-trick-death-threats-working-Nissan.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_Mendonca
Looks like his Nan died earlier this year a few days before she’d have turned 105.
https://www.arbormemorial.ca/highland-scarborough/obituaries/mrs-ineas-alfreda-mendonca/52139
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Yes that’s what they said at the time but as can be seen on the replays his shot actually hit the near post and ended up in the far corner.Redrobo said:
Further proof of the commentators had a restricted view was the fact that one of them said that Bogle hit the far post and it went in,Dazzler21 said:Now I won't deny I missed the celebration in real time but Bogle 100% celebrated the goal. Love the headbutt from Aneke pushing him into the onrushing Morgan too.
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I went against all my principles and clicked on that dreadful Daily Mail site.Scoham said:
That’s correct, Clive’s paternal family are from Guyana. His uncle Ivor was a West Indies cricketer, something Clive himself only found out while playing for us as he’s not stayed in contact with his dad.soapboxsam said:Oggy Red said:
I see that Jimmy Seed grew up near Sunderland, so that would explain his Makem accent, then.JamesSeed said:Yes I have, it’s a great bit of footage.I always loved his accent, which was technically Makem rather than Geordie.
Two absolute legends, having Sunderland roots; Jimmy Seed for a very long time as manager and Clive Mendonca for a short time but gave Cafc fans their greatest day out ever at a mega stadium. 2019 wasn't too shabby and for the fans still alive the FA cup win in April 47 would be a magic memory (they won't have a clue what they did yesterday !)
I assume Clive Mendonca had South American roots on his paternal side. He played like a top Brazilian with that hatrick.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7068437/Clive-Mendonca-Wembley-hat-trick-death-threats-working-Nissan.html
My God, it was so difficult to try and read the article with all that movement and flickering of background advertisements - clickbait at it's worst.
But I persevered and actually quite enjoyed the Clive Mendonca interview.
Of course we get lots of mentions and in depth discussion of our famous Mendonca hat-trick Wembley final ...... he analyses all his goals and tells you what was going through his head at the time.
"'But this, it has stirred the emotions. I'm proud, really proud. That game was my defining moment, all them years of working hard, God repaid me that day. It was just unfortunate for me it was against Sunderland!'
Really good read. If only it wasn't the wretched Daily Mail website.
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            You can see the family resemblance between Ivor and Clive

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdXkEqZ4deI



