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  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    You missed off easy-on-the-eye ex pro(s)

    Im shocked at some people’s very high expectations. And we won. Imagine if we lost. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,894
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    You missed off easy-on-the-eye ex pro(s)

    Im shocked at some people’s very high expectations. And we won. Imagine if we lost. 
    Indeed, Browny always did float my boat!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,894
    edited January 2021
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,853
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Content? It’s watching OUR club in the only way we can.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057
    bobmunro said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Content? It’s watching OUR club in the only way we can.
    I know, that’s why I watch every match...
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,894
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?

    I’m not sure that’s an apples for apples comparison. I can do apples for oranges too, how does it compare to a monthly Sky Sports subscription where I get access to multiple channels, gazillions of matches and world leading production quality?
  • se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?

    I’m not sure that’s an apples for apples comparison. I can do apples for oranges too, how does it compare to a monthly Sky Sports subscription where I get access to multiple channels, gazillions of matches and world leading production quality?
    Its a different scenario to a simple Sky Sports Subscription though

    These streams are keeping clubs afloat... I think we're lucky we're not being charged full matchday ticket price for them

    I honestly wouldnt blame the clubs if they did

    Would be stupid because they would turn people away given the fact they've already charged so cheaply

    But I wouldnt blame them
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?

    I’m not sure that’s an apples for apples comparison. I can do apples for oranges too, how does it compare to a monthly Sky Sports subscription where I get access to multiple channels, gazillions of matches and world leading production quality?
    Its a different scenario to a simple Sky Sports Subscription though

    These streams are keeping clubs afloat... I think we're lucky we're not being charged full matchday ticket price for them

    I honestly wouldnt blame the clubs if they did

    Would be stupid because they would turn people away given the fact they've already charged so cheaply

    But I wouldnt blame them
    I know...

    My point was that I think the away matches are often poor value for £10 - that’s all. Didn’t realise I had committed blasphemy! 

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,894
    edited January 2021
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?

    I’m not sure that’s an apples for apples comparison. I can do apples for oranges too, how does it compare to a monthly Sky Sports subscription where I get access to multiple channels, gazillions of matches and world leading production quality?
    It's simple for me. I want to watch my team play. Currently we can't go to live matches. 

    Paying a tenner to watch the game live plus all of the add-ons is great value. 

    Not bothered about "world leading production quality", high definition, apples or oranges. A family of four watching a game for a tenner - the price of a bag of chips each - is great value.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,853
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Where else can you watch the match for cheaper? And compare it to the price of a match ticket. 
    I can’t watch it anywhere cheaper, it’s a totally captive market hence the (in my opinion) high price.
    And compared to the price of a match ticket, if it were possible to go to games?

    I’m not sure that’s an apples for apples comparison. I can do apples for oranges too, how does it compare to a monthly Sky Sports subscription where I get access to multiple channels, gazillions of matches and world leading production quality?
    Its a different scenario to a simple Sky Sports Subscription though

    These streams are keeping clubs afloat... I think we're lucky we're not being charged full matchday ticket price for them

    I honestly wouldnt blame the clubs if they did

    Would be stupid because they would turn people away given the fact they've already charged so cheaply

    But I wouldnt blame them
    I know...

    My point was that I think the away matches are often poor value for £10 - that’s all. Didn’t realise I had committed blasphemy! 

    Hellfire and damnation awaits you!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    I think they have to produce a stream that most subscribers can watch with varying levels of equipment/internet speeds. No complaints here.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,892
    So as we didn’t lose and can’t complain about that we criticise the stream even though we know in advance it won’t be the quality  of a Sky / BBC live selected match with multiple cameras (nor reasonably can be). 

    For what it’s worth I thought the stream was ok today and decent value all in. 

    As others have said be good if this can remain a viewing option even post COVID   
  • £10 a complete rip off
    Seriously. Why?
    Because as said, at places like Bristol Rovers today, the quality of the camera work and the technical aspects impacting definition and stream speed just weren’t up to a required standard for a paid service.

    Im sure someone like @bobmunro will confirm, there are hundreds of compliancy levels that need to be met by clubs to participate in the league. Health and safety etc 

    ifollow and streamed coverage has proved a financial lifeline for Football League clubs. There should be more stringent rules in place to deliver a consistent product to an acceptable level imo 
    I think @Off_it has largely answered your point but I'll just add this.

    No-one - least of all me - is saying the camera work today was good. But you've got to look at the whole picture as to what you are getting for your tenner.

    As well as seeing a game you wouldn't otherwise be able to, you've got all the punditry and pre and post match comment - which is of pretty high quality. Throw in you can watch it with as many people who are in your household for that one payment and I can only say I think its excellent value.

  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,387
    Averaged out a tenner is ok.  Some good quality, some poor.  Bit like if I’d seen the game live :-) I’ve saved a small fortune during lockdown, partly on fuel working from home but mainly 50 notes on a home game and £100+ away so (for me) its good value.  It will never replace being there in person and I appreciate its a stretch for some but for a closed market its not bad
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    Of course it can't replace a live game but as you say it isn't bad. And unless you travel home and away, a positive is you can see more games. Another positive is you can turn the stream off and you don't have to travel home after a depressing defeat.
  • raymondao
    raymondao Posts: 391
    Tithe home coverage may have better camera angles.   But still 30frames per second.   I have no problem with pundits or comms.   But the picture quality is substandard.  Fact.    I would like to see our team in 60 Dom 1080 p.   It’s quite a reasonable request.  It’s 2021.  Tech has moved on. But maybe not so much at se 7.   Just saying !
  • raymondao
    raymondao Posts: 391
    Sorry for spelling etc.  Send from my phone. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    bobmunro said:
    se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    I’m not sure if it really does equate to good value. 

    It amounts to about £50 a month for 10 hours of content - circa half of which is not very good quality (the away match footage). 
    Content? It’s watching OUR club in the only way we can.
    And only £50 a month 

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  • While the away game production isn't great - Isn't the price of the stream set by the EFL?
    £10 is the cheapest we're allowed to charge no? 
    I'm with the 'Great-Value' brigade on this one. Enjoying all games being accessible this season!
  • Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    You missed off easy-on-the-eye ex pro(s)

    Im shocked at some people’s very high expectations. And we won. Imagine if we lost. 
    I'm almost hoping they now use Iain Dowie next week  :D
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    You missed off easy-on-the-eye ex pro(s)

    Im shocked at some people’s very high expectations. And we won. Imagine if we lost. 
    I'm almost hoping they now use Iain Dowie next week  :D
    Surely he’d get lost en route....
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,369
    Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Live TV coverage of the game. Tick.
    Knowledgeable commentators. Tick.
    In-match replays of major incidents. Tick.
    Pre match preview show. Tick.
    In depth half-time analysis and replays. Tick.
    In depth post-match analysis and replays.  Tick.
    Post match interviews. Tick.

    All that for a tenner is absolutely excellent value. As someone said earlier, less than the cost of a couple of pints and something any number of people in your house can watch for the price.

    (I still think I'm going to be "Whooshed" here.)

    You missed off easy-on-the-eye ex pro(s)

    Im shocked at some people’s very high expectations. And we won. Imagine if we lost. 
    Indeed, Browny always did float my boat!
    I couldn't decide whether to LOL or like that :)
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,190
    edited January 2021
    Okay, you might not have been able to pick out the individual hairs in Johnny Williams’ beard but I always knew where the ball was and which Charlton player was which. It was hardly Iike it had been deliberately pixelated to save innocent eyes from seeing something unsavoury (might have actually improved things in recent matches). It was perfectly watchable and when you you factor in all the ‘extras’ we’ve only been treated to since Sandgaard took over, I’d hardly call £10 a “complete rip off”.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    I'm puzzled why VP allows more than one login on the account when you've purchased a game?
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Is there a few thousand still buying the streams?.
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    The picture quality is fine as it is
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    Ferryman said:
    I'm puzzled why VP allows more than one login on the account when you've purchased a game?
    I think it allows two.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,040
    edited January 2021
    I feel sorry for the Gasheads watching that quality every other match. I agree there definately needs to be some minimum standards and that yesterday's offering, particularly frame rate, wasn't good enough. It was ok when the camera was still but the slightest zooming or panning resulted in a horrible blur. The quality that we are get from the Charlton end is absolutely brilliant though and a real credit to the club. I think the League should step in with some quality standards and some financial support for those clubs that are struggling to afford the requisite technology.
    Everyone will have their own views on how much value it represents, largely depending on their disposable income and their personal desparation to see the match.  I'm lucky enough to live in a three Addick household - a tenner between three of us seems pretty good value. I might feel a little different if I was on my own, but overall if there's one thing I'll miss about the covid situation it'll be the ability to see every single game.