Managerial sackings, comings and goings

MillwallFan said:

robroy said:

Gillingham or Southend next for Harris 

Have nothing but respect for Harris as a player and a bloke, but unfortunately, as a manager, that’s about his level. 

some managers only suit one club, usually where they have played and have a nice comfy history .. Harris I suspect is one of those as is Bowyer ? .. I suspect so

MillwallFan said:

Lincsaddick said:

MillwallFan said:

robroy said:

Gillingham or Southend next for Harris 

Have nothing but respect for Harris as a player and a bloke, but unfortunately, as a manager, that’s about his level. 

some managers only suit one club, usually where they have played and have a nice comfy history .. Harris I suspect is one of those as is Bowyer ? .. I suspect so

I think you could be right. Said it on another thread a while back, as a manager I’d put Bowyer in the same mould as Harris. Great motivator. Tactically limited. Doesn’t react very well when things start to go wrong. Tend to blame others.  Lacks a bit of humility maybe. 

think Bowyer is more of a de-motivator ….

Frank Lampard is set be sacked by Chelsea less than 24 hours after the club's FA Cup victory over Luton Town.

Confirmation could come as soon as today after Chelsea players were told not to report to the training ground until this afternoon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/01/25/frank-lampard-sacked-chelsea/

Since taking over Chelsea Abramovich has spent £110m on manager payoffs. 

killerandflash said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55780955

Rafa Benitez has stepped down from his job in China, Coronavirus being one of the reasons who presumably he wants to come back home. Expect to see his name linked with jobs...

After achieving a top four finish last season which was respectable during a transfer ban they spent a few quid this summer and the team hasn't really got going. Seems extremely harsh to be sacked after 19 league games considering they're through in the Champions League too.     

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/01/25/statement-on-frank-lampard?cardIndex=0-0

stoneroses19 said:

Interesting to see if Lampard just leaves it as that and disappears to a relaxing retirement now. The Chelsea job should have been what he worked up to over years and years, now he's already done it, difficult to see what he'd work towards now. Seems pointless just to manage for the sake of it now. Unless he carries on in lower league and returns to Chelsea again in 5 years or so. 

I could easily see him sticking to MOTD work etc, easy job, decent pay, bright bloke who comes across well etc.

But then I've got a feeling that he's young enough to fancy another go at management, and I think he could get another Premier League job, bottom half team.

Chelsea are a joke of a club. Such delusions of grandeur about them

North Lower Neil said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Chelsea are a joke of a club. Such delusions of grandeur about them

They finished 4th last year then spent £220m in the summer.  I don't think it's unreasonable to view 9th (10th if Southampton draw or win their game in hand) as not good enough. 

My comment is more how they sack managers in general. Nobody is ever given time to build anything there. It's win a trophy or be sacked. Also interesting to know how many of those summer signings were made at Lampard's request.

MattF said:

Interesting snuppet from The Athletic, one of the reasons for Lampard's sacking being given as "the dressing room felt manager showed no empathy and were hurt by his public criticism."

Imagine being a grown man, earning 200k a week, playing shit then getting upset because the manager said you'd played shit. Bless their poor little souls, all they needed was a hug and a cup of tea.

iaitch said:

Do you think he has too many players and doesn't know what his best side/formation is and where to get the best from players?

He has to decide on this and who his preferred players are but keeps chopping and changing to keep everyone happy. Giroud was out the side a few weeks ago and was complaining in the press, next he's back in the side and now out of it again.
 

Possibly but no manager is ever going to complain because he has too many options.

I think the main issue is they signed a lot of players from abroad and you can't expect them all to gel immediately, especially when they're not used to English football. Werner said after 1-2 games that the premier league was much tougher than the bundesliga.

Salah at Liverpool and Fernandes at United are the obvious examples of players who've needed no time to adjust, but they were just 1 player coming into a team. Chelsea have had Thiago Silva, Ziyech, Werner, Havertz, Mendy getting used to a new league and style of play all at the same time. 

iaitch said:

Do you think he has too many players and doesn't know what his best side/formation is and where to get the best from players?

He has to decide on this and who his preferred players are but keeps chopping and changing to keep everyone happy. Giroud was out the side a few weeks ago and was complaining in the press, next he's back in the side and now out of it again.
 

agree with this .. signing the two Germans for huge fees was signing a striker (or two) too many .. he also kept switching his defenders around, never finding the best combination .. shades of Bowyer, too many strikers (but still tool few goals) and too few decent defenders