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The rise of the vegans.

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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    edited January 2021
    AddickUpNorth said:
    Last time I had a cholesterol check my GP was very happy with my score of 3.6. I haven’t eaten ‘food with a face’ for twenty four years.

    For the record my choice not to consume animal products was not because it was ‘trendy’ or a fad, it was because I could no longer consume the body parts or secretions of animals with a clear conscience. I’m happy to eat a balanced diet of vegetables, fruits, beans, legumes, grains and the occasional bit of faux meat and am perfectly healthy with it.
    I used to have a cholesterol reading of 6.2 - not coincidentally due to having a shit diet, with loads of saturated fats and fuck all exercise once I stopped playing football. Oddly enough, it came down once I started eating more vegetables and lily fish, less red meat and fried foods and did some exercise...

    We're in the territory of 'anecdotal evidence' again here... 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    AddickUpNorth said:
    Last time I had a cholesterol check my GP was very happy with my score of 3.6. I haven’t eaten ‘food with a face’ for twenty four years.

    For the record my choice not to consume animal products was not because it was ‘trendy’ or a fad, it was because I could no longer consume the body parts or secretions of animals with a clear conscience. I’m happy to eat a balanced diet of vegetables, fruits, beans, legumes, grains and the occasional bit of faux meat and am perfectly healthy with it.
    I used to have a cholesterol reading of 6.2 - not coincidentally due to having a shit diet, with loads of saturated fats and fuck all exercise once I stopped playing football. Oddly enough, it came down once I started eating more vegetables and lily fish, less red meat and fried foods and did some exercise...

    We're in the territory of 'anecdotal evidence' again here... 

    Well, I’ve given an anecdote about my personal evidence so I guess we are Leroy.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,974
    Rob7Lee said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    I've never found an alternative to milk that works well in tea or coffee or porridge - they're all varying degrees of vile. I just don't think they 'work' when heated up.

    On cereal I like unsweetened almond milk - it's nicer than cow's milk. 
    I must have spent about £100 the last two months on every type of milk replacement you can get, just doesn’t work in tea, sadly.
    TBH I think it's like giving up sugar in tea/coffee. Once you get used to it and then have sugar by mistake it tastes awful. I use unsweetened almond milk in tea. Someone put semi skimmed 'normal' milk in by mistake and it tasted really odd.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    AddickUpNorth said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    AddickUpNorth said:
    Last time I had a cholesterol check my GP was very happy with my score of 3.6. I haven’t eaten ‘food with a face’ for twenty four years.

    For the record my choice not to consume animal products was not because it was ‘trendy’ or a fad, it was because I could no longer consume the body parts or secretions of animals with a clear conscience. I’m happy to eat a balanced diet of vegetables, fruits, beans, legumes, grains and the occasional bit of faux meat and am perfectly healthy with it.
    I used to have a cholesterol reading of 6.2 - not coincidentally due to having a shit diet, with loads of saturated fats and fuck all exercise once I stopped playing football. Oddly enough, it came down once I started eating more vegetables and lily fish, less red meat and fried foods and did some exercise...

    We're in the territory of 'anecdotal evidence' again here... 

    Well, I’ve given an anecdote about my personal evidence so I guess we are Leroy.
    Remember what the plural of anecdote is not chaps... :-) 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    https://youtu.be/zJHdMqgZMiY
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    So this week I found almond milk was acceptable with my porridge, not quite as nice as with cows milk but I could certainly live with it.

    Adding it to coffee was without doubt one of the lost disgusting things I’ve ever tasted. 

    Oat milk next week 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    AFKABartram said:
    So this week I found almond milk was acceptable with my porridge, not quite as nice as with cows milk but I could certainly live with it.

    Adding it to coffee was without doubt one of the lost disgusting things I’ve ever tasted. 

    Oat milk next week 

    I used to put unsweetened almond milk in coffee but because of the heat of the water found it split. Apparently it’s better if you warm the milk first but that’s too much faff. Now I just drink my coffee black.
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
    Yes, but only plants. We are very wary of watching animals, especially carnivores.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?

    All the time.
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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    I want to be a vegan with commitment but don't really think I have what it takes.

    What's the best source of protein? In general and for vegans 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    edited January 2021
    Dave2l said:
    I want to be a vegan with commitment but don't really think I have what it takes.

    What's the best source of protein? In general and for vegans 

    @Dave2l here’s a rough guide for starters.

    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/best-sources-protein-vegans
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Cheers 🙂👍
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    73 Cows is an interesting film. It tells the story of ex beef farmer, Jay Wilde and his wife Katja, who turned their backs on the cattle industry and re-invented themselves as organic vegan farmers.

    https://lockwoodfilm.com/73-cows

    https://www.animalaid.org.uk/former-dairy-farmers-with-change-of-heart-bringing-oat-drink-to-midlands/


  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    edited January 2021
    https://youtu.be/imgLK6CI8eI @Dave2l I highly recommend the Avantgardevegan YouTube channel for ideas. There are so many others as well so if you want to know more let me know.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Anna_Kissed said:
    73 Cows is an interesting film. It tells the story of ex beef farmer, Jay Wilde and his wife Katja, who turned their backs on the cattle industry and re-invented themselves as organic vegan farmers.

    https://lockwoodfilm.com/73-cows

    https://www.animalaid.org.uk/former-dairy-farmers-with-change-of-heart-bringing-oat-drink-to-midlands/


    Really is a good film. The interview that Joey Carbstrong did with Jay on his YouTube channel is also worth a watch.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
    As a card carrying omnivore, may I be the first to congratulate you on posting the most irrelevant, stupidest reply on this thread. And - considering the utter dreck that a few people early in came out with, that is high praise indeed. 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
    As a card carrying omnivore, may I be the first to congratulate you on posting the most irrelevant, stupidest reply on this thread. And - considering the utter dreck that a few people early in came out with, that is high praise indeed. 

    I think I know where SamBO9 was going with that question. Just waiting for his/her response to confirm.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    Me too. And it's as utterly dense as the imbecile earlier in the thread who said they tried to make their cat a vegetarian.... 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    AFKABartram said:
    So this week I found almond milk was acceptable with my porridge, not quite as nice as with cows milk but I could certainly live with it.

    Adding it to coffee was without doubt one of the lost disgusting things I’ve ever tasted. 

    Oat milk next week 
    I think it’s alright mate.  My missus got me into it.  I have no issue with it in coffee or on cereal 
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  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
    As a card carrying omnivore, may I be the first to congratulate you on posting the most irrelevant, stupidest reply on this thread. And - considering the utter dreck that a few people early in came out with, that is high praise indeed. 
    It was a simple question, no need to get triggered.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    edited January 2021
    SamB09 said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    SamB09 said:
    Do vegans watch nature documentaries? Or youtube footage of events that happen in nature?
    As a card carrying omnivore, may I be the first to congratulate you on posting the most irrelevant, stupidest reply on this thread. And - considering the utter dreck that a few people early in came out with, that is high praise indeed. 
    It was a simple question, no need to get triggered.
    I think the word you're looking for is 'stupid'

    Congrats, though, on falling straight back on to the 'snowflake' school of responses. Especially since - as I said - I'm not a vegan, or even a vegetarian. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    I found oatley to be ok for a latte although didn’t stick with it as I only have one a week or so and drink most of my coffee black. 
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    edited January 2021
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTxzzztRBU&t=355s

    This Ted talk has definitely made me think a bit more positively about veganism, especially the following points

    1) An animals life is taken  away so you can have a meal that lasts 10-20 minutes and you don't really think about it much after so was it really worth it - very thought provoking 

    2) Animals often eat other animals alive which must cause awful suffering  - But the predator literally knows no other way of survival and thats the difference with humans, again it is thought provoking

    Having thought some more i'm starting to think that low quality meat products are very wasteful. For example, sausage rolls, processed ham, cocktail sausages, chicken nuggets ect ect. An animal died for that crap stuff, it does feel wrong.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    AddickUpNorth said:
    Anna_Kissed said:
    73 Cows is an interesting film. It tells the story of ex beef farmer, Jay Wilde and his wife Katja, who turned their backs on the cattle industry and re-invented themselves as organic vegan farmers.

    https://lockwoodfilm.com/73-cows

    https://www.animalaid.org.uk/former-dairy-farmers-with-change-of-heart-bringing-oat-drink-to-midlands/


    Really is a good film. The interview that Joey Carbstrong did with Jay on his YouTube channel is also worth a watch.
    I found it quite mooving.
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302

  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    https://youtu.be/xcUNse0nhZ0 Vegan men: fragile, weak and feminised.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    cabbles said:
    AFKABartram said:
    So this week I found almond milk was acceptable with my porridge, not quite as nice as with cows milk but I could certainly live with it.

    Adding it to coffee was without doubt one of the lost disgusting things I’ve ever tasted. 

    Oat milk next week 
    I think it’s alright mate.  My missus got me into it.  I have no issue with it in coffee or on cereal 
    Worth trying Mylk, it’s a blend of a number of plant based mills abs I find it virtually indistinguishable from cows milk. Our Sainsbury’s (Greenwich peninsula) stopped stocking it for a while but is now stocking it again. 

    Like most plant based mills you have to wait for your tea to cool a bit before adding as it separates if chucked into water at 100 degrees but is fine at slightly lower.

    personally use it on cereal and for hot chocolate. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    edited February 2021
    AddickUpNorth said:
    https://youtu.be/xcUNse0nhZ0 Vegan men: fragile, weak and feminised.
    It makes me so fkn angry seeing them pigs lowered and struggle in fear. Like actually breaks my heart, I try and not be a preachy vegan but when I see shit like that and people try and make remarks to me I do start to get worked up a bit. I cried so much watching earthlings. I just don't get how people can harm something completely innocent and sentient 

    Anyway even though that vid is a debunk it's mental that there are still people out there who think you need to eat meat to be stronger. Vegan now since 2017, I am just about three times stronger, down 3 stone and look like a completely different person. Not that it's just cause I'm vegan, had a lifestyle change but the point is I can sway it that way to push my agenda which is exactly what meat eaters do.

    Stop f*****g eating animals please :) 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    I wonder where he got his protein.

    https://plantbasednews.org/culture/sport/vegan-powerlifter-gets-gold-in-championships/


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