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  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,890
    Off_it said:
    Any of our budding Wincey Willis' care to change their forecasts from earlier in the week on this one?
    I think the warmth of the soil will play a major role.  It was very noticeable today how fast our snow was melting despite the air temperature staying below freezing.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,873
    edited February 2021
    Covered End said:
    Off_it said:
    Any of our budding Wincey Willis' care to change their forecasts from earlier in the week on this one?
    What is your prediction as to whether the game will go ahead?
    Well, I reckon it will be perfectly playable by the standards of, say, 10 years ago and beyond. But these days it seems it doesn't take much for refs to call off games. So let's hope a fox doesn't piss in the goalmouth overnight or something trivial.

    But the real point is that on Monday/Tuesday it was impossible to say whether the game was "definitely off", but that doesn't stop people. I just find it funny how some people can be so definite about something they can have no possible means of knowing.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    Was fucking freezing here today in the wind. Still have snow on the ground and on the van (Westcombe Park). However, I’ve just done a ground inspection in the garden and the soil is not frozen. 

    Assuming the Valley is covered, I’m reckon the game will go ahead. 


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited February 2021
    Off_it said:
    Covered End said:
    Off_it said:
    Any of our budding Wincey Willis' care to change their forecasts from earlier in the week on this one?
    What is your prediction as to whether the game will go ahead?
    Well, I reckon it will be perfectly playable by the standards of, say, 10 years ago and beyond. But these days it seems it doesn't take much for refs to call off games. So let's hope a fox doesn't piss in the goalmouth overnight or something trivial.

    But the real point is that on Monday/Tuesday it was impossible to say whether the game was "definitely off", but that doesn't stop people. I just find it funny how some people can be so definite about something they can have no possible means of knowing.
    I'm wondering if you're talking about CL or elsewhere?
    I'm not aware of anyone saying the game will definitely be off, just discussing matters sensibly on  a forum.
    Although there was one single comment about all london games without undersoil heating being off.

    Comments of doubt by those that looked at the weather forecast appear to be valid to me, as we still have a doubt 3/4 days later as you have just confirmed.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,656
    -4 tonight at The Valley, not rising above zero before ko.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815

    Google tells me:

    In the winter, soil temperatures tend to be higher than air temperatures. 
    Soil can hold heat better than air does. It is also insulated by soil above it, vegetation, and snow. 

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    Covered End said:
    Off_it said:
    Covered End said:
    Off_it said:
    Any of our budding Wincey Willis' care to change their forecasts from earlier in the week on this one?
    What is your prediction as to whether the game will go ahead?
    Well, I reckon it will be perfectly playable by the standards of, say, 10 years ago and beyond. But these days it seems it doesn't take much for refs to call off games. So let's hope a fox doesn't piss in the goalmouth overnight or something trivial.

    But the real point is that on Monday/Tuesday it was impossible to say whether the game was "definitely off", but that doesn't stop people. I just find it funny how some people can be so definite about something they can have no possible means of knowing.
    I'm wondering if you're talking about CL or elsewhere?
    I'm not aware of anyone saying the game will definitely be off, just discussing matters sensibly on  a forum.
    Although there was one single comment about all london games without undersoil heating being off.

    Comments of doubt by those that looked at the weather forecast appear to be valid to me, as we still have a doubt 3/4 days later as you have just confirmed.
    Especially as we have had a game called off not that long ago for a frozen pitch, and the club did say that The Valley being in a dip is extra cold
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
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  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    They don’t call it the frozen North for nothing 🥶.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    Feckin grim up there. Only redeeming feature is that even with games called off for a frozen pitch and with COVID restrictions in force the local lovely ladies will still be out exercising in no more than a crop top and Lycra shorts.

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  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 378
    Seem to remember a game being called off not that long ago because the strip along the East stand was deemed unplayable - for the linesman?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    I’ve just checked the ground in my back yard and it’s like concrete, but then it was -41degC here a few nights ago. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    I think there are a few posts above about the replacement of grass on the touch lines with Astro. Not sure how much that helps tbf.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,873
    I've just checked my back garden and it looks rather like decking
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    I think it’s touch and go,... if we end winning and have to celebrate accordingly I think there is going to have to be a frozen custard inspection at around 4pm. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,048
    I would be pretty surprised if today’s match is going ahead 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,908
    i think the sun will be a big factor - temperatures are taken in the shade
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Clear blue sky at the moment with the sun coming out.
    Still quite hopefull the game will go ahead 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,817
    Seems like it’s gonna take a miracle with temps not going above freezing.

    play it tomorrow?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    My garden is totally frozen now. All down to the performance of the pitch covers I reckon. Keeping fingers crossed.

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,812
    AFC Wimbledon game has been called off 
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,890
    DOUCHER said:
    i think the sun will be a big factor - temperatures are taken in the shade
    Unfortunately, not all of the pitch is in the sun.

  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,668
    I'm in SE13 and it's very sunny at the moment.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    I presume Gillingham will be on their way soon. They will probably want to tell them if the game is likely not to go ahead before they leave.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I presume Gillingham will be on their way soon. They will probably want to tell them if the game is likely not to go ahead before they leave.
    Unless they’re coming by horse and cart, I’m not sure the effort of driving up the A2 is that arduous  :D
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    killerandflash said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I presume Gillingham will be on their way soon. They will probably want to tell them if the game is likely not to go ahead before they leave.
    Unless they’re coming by horse and cart, I’m not sure the effort of driving up the A2 is that arduous  :D
    We've given them directions via Longfield, Bexleyheath, Eltham, Bromley and on to Charlton.
    They left half an hour ago.
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,352
    I think Gillingham travelled last night, I can see all the caravans in the Valley car park 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Covered End said:
    killerandflash said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I presume Gillingham will be on their way soon. They will probably want to tell them if the game is likely not to go ahead before they leave.
    Unless they’re coming by horse and cart, I’m not sure the effort of driving up the A2 is that arduous  :D
    We've given them directions via Longfield, Bexleyheath, Eltham, Bromley and on to Charlton.
    They left half an hour ago.
    Don't forget the short cut past Selhurst Park, which is only a short distance to the Valley.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Given the current temperatures, I suppose they may be leaving the removal of the covers to the last minute. 
  • chilham
    chilham Posts: 297
    Match preview posted on the CAFC twitter account at 11.00am, so looks positive. Temperature forecast is less cold by 3pm...

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