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Can’t help but think that far too much detail and importance is being linked to this affiliation aspect7
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Not sure. @MadGerman has all the details, but the merchandise the NA Addicks have invested in is the deal breaker for them.Rob7Lee said:
Not sure how that effects being affiliated - or are you saying NA Addicks wanted to use the term Addicks International and that someone was already registered as International Addicks? I thought both were turned down? (only going by this thread I have no inside knowledge!)PragueAddick said:
That isn't the problem . Its rather that - and this is nobody's fault - you have international groups that already existed before this initiative started. I believe (and @MadGerman can confirm if I got this right) that the North American group have invested money in merchandise, and it bears the legend "Addicks International" or something like that. I can think of solutions in terms of names, but not a solution that won't result in the NA Addicks finding their merchandise a bit redundant.Rob7Lee said:I don't recall reading anything that said you have to be within a certain geographical area. If that's the case how have non geographical groups (such as CADSA or Armed forces) been able to sign up? Was their membership addresses checked?0 -
Quite possibly. The benefits (other than the priceless tour round the museum) are a bit vague at the moment but that could change and it is, IMHO, as much for the club as for the groups themselves. Then again, that there is this interest and debate shows the idea, if not the execution, is sound.AFKABartram said:Can’t help but think that far too much detail and importance is being linked to this affiliation aspect
Scottish Addicks (not sure what they are called officially) have signed up according to someone on twitter (who I assume is Mr @Weegie Addick )
@MadGerman "United Nations not otherwise connected to an affiliated Group Addicks" might be a bit too much
But I can see why "International Addicks" for a group based in North America raised eyebrows. It's a bit all encompassing.0 -
North London based fan club?0
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PragueAddick said:
Not sure. @MadGerman has all the details, but the merchandise the NA Addicks have invested in is the deal breaker for them.Rob7Lee said:
Not sure how that effects being affiliated - or are you saying NA Addicks wanted to use the term Addicks International and that someone was already registered as International Addicks? I thought both were turned down? (only going by this thread I have no inside knowledge!)PragueAddick said:
That isn't the problem . Its rather that - and this is nobody's fault - you have international groups that already existed before this initiative started. I believe (and @MadGerman can confirm if I got this right) that the North American group have invested money in merchandise, and it bears the legend "Addicks International" or something like that. I can think of solutions in terms of names, but not a solution that won't result in the NA Addicks finding their merchandise a bit redundant.Rob7Lee said:I don't recall reading anything that said you have to be within a certain geographical area. If that's the case how have non geographical groups (such as CADSA or Armed forces) been able to sign up? Was their membership addresses checked?The point with the group in North America is, they started before the announcement of the club. They've chosen the name "Addicks International" and orderd t-shirts, scarves, sticker and more with the group's name on it. After that they got in contact with the club over affiliation. They coudn't solve the issue wiht the name and pulled out.We, as "International Addicks" came a bit later, but we became aware of the North American group and are in contact with them.1 -
The North American Charlton Athletic Supporters Club just became official recently as well!
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Hi ThomasStatesideAddick said:The North American Charlton Athletic Supporters Club just became official recently as well!5 -
Bromley Addicks or to use our new name "Bromley and anywhere inside the M25 Addicks"Solidgone said:North London based fan club?
Seriously, if there are enough people great time to start a group0 -
I don't believe either the Chair or Secretary of Charlton Fans in Scotland post on here. The Secretary happens to be called Robert but is not my husband.Henry Irving said:
Quite possibly. The benefits (other than the priceless tour round the museum) are a bit vague at the moment but that could change and it is, IMHO, as much for the club as for the groups themselves. Then again, that there is this interest and debate shows the idea, if not the execution, is sound.AFKABartram said:Can’t help but think that far too much detail and importance is being linked to this affiliation aspect
Scottish Addicks (not sure what they are called officially) have signed up according to someone on twitter (who I assume is Mr @Weegie Addick )
@MadGerman "United Nations not otherwise connected to an affiliated Group Addicks" might be a bit too much
But I can see why "International Addicks" for a group based in North America raised eyebrows. It's a bit all encompassing.
Strangely there are at least three "Heathers" and three "Roberts" in the group. Myself and Mr W are mere members and intend to keep it that way.
Isn't it briiliant that we have found so many Addicks North of the Border?1 -
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No worries.Henry Irving said:1 -
East Kent Addicks have signed up3 -
No FF for c18 months now..
Some people may not see the value of the meeting, but the best moment for me was when the group united to tell LdT it wasn't going to let him manipulate the FF to apologise on behalf of CAFC fans for some graffiti in Belgium.
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That was a very united front and it was a flat refusal to apologise on behalf of the fanbase, something we had no mandate to do even if there was an act to apologise for.
The evening was very bizarre from start to finish. Graffiti gate, plus LdT announcing that they were going to demand the Football League bought Charlton for a pound and almost expecting us to applaud and support the notion.
It all seems such a surreal time in our history.0 -
Bromley Addicks chair Ian Wallis @killerjerrylee raised the issue of no fans forum meetings with the new fans liaison officer, Lucy Bishop, last week when she joined our zoom meeting.
She said there were plans for a meeting to be held but there were no details or dates.
I believe Ian has been in touch with her since but haven't heard anymore.0 -
Lucy has confirmed since the Bromley Addicks meeting that a Fans Forum meeting is high on the agenda so hope to hear further very soon.0
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Lucy is seeking thoughts on the Fans’ Forum:
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/60952ff693abc/column-fan-adviser-lucy-bishop-on-her-first-month-in-the-role
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She is also arranging a meeting with CADSA very soon, so seems to be getting active now.killerjerrylee said:Lucy has confirmed since the Bromley Addicks meeting that a Fans Forum meeting is high on the agenda so hope to hear further very soon.0 -
Get involved with Charlton Athletic by setting up your own supporters’ group and gain access to a wide range of exclusive club benefits.
The club has a long history of engaged supporter groups across the UK and around the world, and this summer are launching a new structure, developed by representatives of the Charlton Advisory Board, in consultation with fans, to give supporters’ groups official recognition - helping existing groups grow and supporting the formation of new groups.
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I'm very confused by this.
As I've said I help admin the International FB page (not the one set up by the Germans).
The fella who started it received a questionnaire from the club a few days ago.
This is the 3rd one since the new owners took over & not once have they actually been in contact after he completed the first two.
He has completed it again but he's a tad disgruntled understandably.
What's going on I wonder 🤔4 -
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They are working out how they can make some money from the groups.1
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By getting them to fill out the same form 3 times & then completely ignore it?valleynick66 said:They are working out how they can make some money from the groups.
Strange.2 -
Have they spoken to Ed?KBslittlesis said:
By getting them to fill out the same form 3 times & then completely ignore it?valleynick66 said:They are working out how they can make some money from the groups.
Strange.
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One of many questions that require a response sooner rather than later....KBslittlesis said:I'm very confused by this.
As I've said I help admin the International FB page (not the one set up by the Germans).
The fella who started it received a questionnaire from the club a few days ago.
This is the 3rd one since the new owners took over & not once have they actually been in contact after he completed the first two.
He has completed it again but he's a tad disgruntled understandably.
What's going on I wonder 🤔0 -
Well of course I’m just being facetious.KBslittlesis said:
By getting them to fill out the same form 3 times & then completely ignore it?valleynick66 said:They are working out how they can make some money from the groups.
Strange.But cynically a ‘survey’ suggests they are gathering information about the groups which they may or may not see a way to monetise in due course.In fairness they may find a ‘win win’ on incentives to the members / associates to encourage ticket sales.But of course to your point actually collating and using the responses would be a start.0 -
This is not about monetising - I hope!Sandgaard started a registration of supporter groups. This is the update. Some members of the Advisory Board and other fans did a lot of work on it quite a few months ago.The overall intention as I understand is an official register of defined supporter groups ie with some form of paid membership or geographic limitation eg Swedish Addicks or particular characteristic eg CADSA, Proud Valiants.The form isn’t a survey here - it’s an application form. Perhaps that is where the confusion is for your group @KBslittlesis? Sorry if you feel the same questions have been asked multiple times!0
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The longest running active group, Bromley Addicks, didn't even receive an application email.
It's a badly thought out, superficial process which adds no value and doesn't achieve its stated aim of increasing "fan engagement".
But we've filled in the questionnaire anyway.5 -
Funnily enough CAST hasn’t received the email either. Maybe the club assumes some of us know a bit about it already.
Being an officially registered group includes involvement in the Supporters’ Forum which is part of the club’s formal fan engagement plan. Though it’s more accurate for the club to say the overall objective here is about strengthening fan connections.1 -
Not accurate at all.Weegie Addick said:Funnily enough CAST hasn’t received the email either. Maybe the club assumes some of us know a bit about it already.
Being an officially registered group includes involvement in the Supporters’ Forum which is part of the club’s formal fan engagement plan. Though it’s more accurate for the club to say the overall objective here is about strengthening fan connections.
They already had all those connections.
They are reinventing the wheel, just very badly after taking very poor advice from the advisory board.4 -
Ain't that the truth !Henry Irving said:
Not accurate at all.Weegie Addick said:Funnily enough CAST hasn’t received the email either. Maybe the club assumes some of us know a bit about it already.
Being an officially registered group includes involvement in the Supporters’ Forum which is part of the club’s formal fan engagement plan. Though it’s more accurate for the club to say the overall objective here is about strengthening fan connections.
They already had all those connections.
They are reinventing the wheel, just very badly after taking very poor advice from the advisory board.
Basically a case of the blind leading the blind IMO.
I understand that no members of the few SG s ( I know 2 of the Chairs of those still in existence ) had any meaningful input in the discussions held & no-one at Board level who would have rubber stamped this "initiative"
would have the slightest idea of what might work !
But of course, this would have been initiated following "guide lines" as to how Premier League clubs run theirs.
Another example of trying to run before you can walk.?
Weegie mentions the possibility of some kind of paid membership. But paid to whom ? The Groups themselves for obvious outgoings or to the Club ? If the former, Groups will need a Treasurer, a Membership Sec, a bank account etc. Oh & a venue for holding meetings, probably with a hire fee.
As for " exclusive club benefits " , and "access to competitions & prize draws", isn't that what VG offers to its members ? Surely this initiative won't affect that well regarded scheme which actually benefits the Academy ?
It will be very interesting to hear feedback on this & of course, how many new Groups will sign up. The guidelines that will be issued to potential new ones will need to be well researched in advance.
However, anyone that has been involved in running a successful SG before or has attended a meeting in the past will testify that the most successful evenings are those with a player/s as the guest....as long as said Group's "area" isn't too far from SE7....
Wonder whether anyone's thought to ask Nathan how he feels about allowing HIS lads out during the season ?
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