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England Cricket 2021 (excluding Ashes)

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Is there any actual statistical evidence that the 50 over score is usually double the 30 over score ?


  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Two wickets down early doors. 
  • Sounds like after timing, but I can't see any particular reason not to bat first on this pitch.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    MrOneLung said:
    Is there any actual statistical evidence that the 50 over score is usually double the 30 over score ?


    Yes. Using data for ODIs between 2001 and 2015, the fifty percent score, on average, was reached after 29.2 overs. 


  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Nice one Chizz. 

    Didn’t know if it was fact or just a target 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    Livingstone looks as good as anyone in this side.

    Great series for him so far.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    edited March 2021
    Is Livingstone (note not Lawrence) our potential T20 finisher?

    As I've said numerous times previously, I would prefer Root to be batting at 3 and Buttler further down the order. Unfortunately, I don't think the selectors are going to do either as they seem to want Buttler to open and Stokes to bat at 3 so could we see this:

    Buttler (RH)
    Roy (RH)
    Stokes (LH)
    Bairstow (RH)
    Morgan (LH)
    Livingstone (RH)
    Moeen/S. Curran (LH)

    Of course Livingstone could also give you the 2nd/3rd spinning option too

  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    I presume so :)
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    We have absolutely thrown this away again. Cheap wickets everywhere.
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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,447
    Laddick01 said:
    We have absolutely thrown this away again. Cheap wickets everywhere.
    Agreed
  • Slimmest of slim chances here, but... it's a chance.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Less slim now. Still slim
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    You’ve got to question the umpiring when he think that was doing more than clipping
  • Laddick01 said:
    You’ve got to question the umpiring when he think that was doing more than clipping
    Just came on to say exactly the same - he was jumping and it hit him above the kneeroll...
  • Come on Sam!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    If those four catches were dropped by certain other countries there would be questions about possible match fixing
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    There was a clear 2 Curran turned down. Gonna cost us
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    Great shame. Sam Curran batted superbly although I do wonder if, on that wicket, he really needed to protect Wood, who is no mug with the bat, to the extent that he did.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited March 2021
    Massive choke at the end unfortunately. 15 runs from last three overs isn’t good enough after you’ve put yourself in a position to win. Turning down runs to keep strike isn’t smart cricket in that position.
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  • Great effort Sam Curran.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Well played Sam
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Really enjoyable tour, nothing much between two excellent teams.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    Well played Surrey. 
    I meant sam
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Brilliant innings from Curran but as above he was winding me up turning down simple singles and even then next ball half looking (obviously it’s automatic ) for a tough one before realising.
    Whatever we lost , made a fist of it but being a completely harsh git maybe a bit more faith in Wood may have got the same result .... or maybe not .
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    I have seen Wood smack it around a bit. He is no mug. Take the runs. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    On another note, Josh de Caires, Michael Atherton's son (though no one is meant to know that hence Josh using his mother's maiden name) hit a century against a decent Yorkshire bowling attack today for Leeds/Bradford Universities. A chip off the old block.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,915
    Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



    Agreed and they've payed more money for Bairstow and Williamson than Roy so I can't see the purpose for him going there. 

    I understand that there are still some murmurs about his suitability for Indian conditions ahead of the world T20. But I'm sure he'd be better served playing 8 County champ games rather than having the odd net in india.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    Ashley Giles has rightly said that England can't stand in the way of players if they want to play in the IPL but "play" might not be the right word. Take the Sunrisers Hyderbad for example. With Jason Roy now enlisted to replace Mitchell Marsh, these are their 8 overseas players:

    David Warner
    Jason Roy
    Jonny Bairstow
    Kane Williamson
    Jason Holder
    Mohammad Nabi
    Rashid Khan
    Mujeeb-Ur-Rahman

    Now Warner is captain so unless he has a run of bad form he will virtually be a fixture. Rashid Khan will be too. So that leaves 2 places for the other 6 players. In a lot of games, one from the three other overseas bowlers will be picked so that leaves one place for Williamson, Bairstow and Roy.



    Agreed and they've payed more money for Bairstow and Williamson than Roy so I can't see the purpose for him going there. 

    I understand that there are still some murmurs about his suitability for Indian conditions ahead of the world T20. But I'm sure he'd be better served playing 8 County champ games rather than having the odd net in india.
    Money talks and Roy's got no longevity in red ball. A central England white ball contract plus the Hundred, BBL, IPL etc etc will do the trick for him.