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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    I feel like the Simms rumour came from one poster mentioning him as an option and another mentioning that he and Adkins were at Southampton together... No rumour was ever spoken.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Premier league within five years is looking a bit optimistic atm…… why say that? All it did was raise expectations! 
    If you didn't think it was optimistic then, you're a fool.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,823
    Weird, always thought Charlton supporters were ones who liked kids breaking into the first team, seems that's changed. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,738
    Valley11 said:
    It does seem particularly quiet on the signings front. No rumours or hints from Cawley. Either they’re running a much tighter ship as has been suggested. Or nothing is anywhere near close. 
    No one knew about Matthews or Famewo as far as I could see, then they happened out of the blue. Patience is a virtue...
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    edited July 2021
    12th Sept 2020 vs Crewe

    Amos 
    Barker - Pratley - Oshilaja - Purrington
    F.Caskey - Lapslie - Gilbey
    Doughty - Bonne - Washington 

    Subs:
    M.Brewer, Vennings, Levitt, Morgan, Oztumer, Williams, Aneke

    10 July 2021 (Taken from two squads vs Celtic)

    MacGillivray
    Matthews - Inniss - Famewo - Purrington
    Morgan - Dobson - Gilbey
    Jaiyesimi - Stockley - Washington

    Subs:
    Harness, Gunter, Pearce, Watson, Henry, Clayden, Davison

    I'd say our potential starting 11 is better now, we just need to add some depth and a few loanees. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,395
    Loving that bench from the Crewe game though. Five attacking (or at least, 'progressive') midfielders! 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    edited July 2021
    Leuth said:
    Loving that bench from the Crewe game though. Five attacking (or at least, 'progressive') midfielders! 
    That's because at that stage we didn't have our other players yet, in reality that bench was dangerously inexperienced and ill equipped to benefit us if required in defensive positions. Admittedly we were still under restrictions thanks to the EFL.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,001
    Comparing us with a year ago and saying we are in a better place is  hardly a great compliment, seeing that we were under a transfer embargo at the time, and facing the abyss due to the ownership

    And I don't see much difference in the quality of the 2 starting 11s, other than the defence (due to Pearce being injured and Lockyer exercising his option to leave). That 2020 front 3 was decent enough and the 2020 team while lacking defenders on the bench had some great creative options 
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,823
    So we're comparing a line up from a pre season game in early July, to a possible first team in August, OK, that's some stretch. 

    We've probably got 3-4 more loans to come in, I suspect 3-4 more signings, there is still a lot of movement to be done. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,884
    Probably stuck on the M1 somewhere...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,292
    MattF said:
    Chief sports writer for the local Portsmouth paper so Cawley's counterpart for Pompey.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,933
    edited July 2021
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    MattF said:
    Chief sports writer for the local Portsmouth paper so Cawley's counterpart for Pompey.

    MattF said:
    Perhaps they need a chat then.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Rothko said:
    So we're comparing a line up from a pre season game in early July, to a possible first team in August, OK, that's some stretch. 

    We've probably got 3-4 more loans to come in, I suspect 3-4 more signings, there is still a lot of movement to be done.  
    The comparison was last season's first game to now... and highlighting that we are already looking better and have a month til the first game.

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  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,239
    Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought. 
    But equally he must've known then that players like that don't come cheap. Thomas is a football man.  No player like that is going to come for a free pair of boots and a 12 chip lunch.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Premier league within five years is looking a bit optimistic atm…… why say that? All it did was raise expectations! 
    If you didn't think it was optimistic then, you're a fool.
    Said tongue in cheek!  Would rather play down expectations than big them up. Guess TS is quite Americanised now & it’s their way!  
    Still expecting some good signings though, long way to go! 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited July 2021
    Accounts are over due aren't they?

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466

    Isn't that an automatic embargo now?




  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Accounts are over due aren't they?

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466

    Isn't that an automatic embargo now?




    Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday.  It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,870
    edited July 2021
    Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought. 
    But equally he must've known then that players like that don't come cheap. Thomas is a football man.  No player like that is going to come for a free pair of boots and a 12 chip lunch.
    Agree, unless there is a nice portion of cod and mushy peas included B)
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,757
    edited July 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Accounts are over due aren't they?

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466

    Isn't that an automatic embargo now?




    Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday.  It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.
    I should think the 2019/20 CAFC Ltd accounts are a nightmare, as they cover three different periods of control, none of them under Thomas, but he is responsible for filing them and disclosing relevant post-accounting date information, of which there might be quite a bit.

    It's interesting that Duchatelet was late with Charlton Holdings (far and away the simplest of the three relevant UK companies) and did a technical tweak to get an extension. In practice they were signed off on June 30th, so very nearly filed on time (taking into account the three-month Covid extension). That suggests we might see Baton 2010, which includes CAFC Ltd up to January 21st, 2020, as a subsidiary, soon as well. 

    Companies House has flagged CAFC Limited as overdue, which is all that I noted on Twitter. I doubt if a few days' delay is enough to trigger a transfer ban given the very complicated circumstances. If CAFC was expected to be very late, I should think TS would have used the same (legitimate) trick as Duchatelet to get a further three-month extension. The fact he hasn't suggests that they are close to filing or that the club's accountants/auditors don't know what they are doing. I favour the former.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,731
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Accounts are over due aren't they?

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466

    Isn't that an automatic embargo now?




    Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday.  It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.
    In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,757
    edited July 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Accounts are over due aren't they?

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466

    Isn't that an automatic embargo now?




    Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday.  It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.
    In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.
    Agreed re CH delays, but the point is that they have flagged them as late, which they would only do if they weren't received by the deadline of June 30th. They wouldn't flag them as late before the deadline, because that makes no sense. They could have gone in since and the status not yet been updated, but only since the flag was raised.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Just for back ground Gillingham were placed under an embargo a month after their accounts were due.  However there is also the issue of the monitored loan which I don't think we took.

    We wouldn't have been able to sign Stockley for a fee, if that was the case.

    Although the accounts would be very messy a lot of it should/would/could have been unravelled in the due diligence work that was undertaken.

    They are going to be very embarrassing for a number of people. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,394
    Dazzler21 said:
    Leuth said:
    Loving that bench from the Crewe game though. Five attacking (or at least, 'progressive') midfielders! 
    That's because at that stage we didn't have our other players yet, in reality that bench was dangerously inexperienced and ill equipped to benefit us if required in defensive positions. Admittedly we were still under restrictions thanks to ESI
    Fixed that for ya. 
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