Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

soapboxsam said:

Henry Irving said:

I'd have liked to have seen more signings by now.

But that hasn't happened.

It may still.

It may not.

Football seasons are nine months long.

We can start badly and finish well

We can start well and finish badly

We can be bad or good all season.

We can be mediocre all season.

I hope we do well and get promoted.

I accept that might not happen.

That is all 

LLLBH

Thank you Henry for your predictions for the 2021/22 season. 

Not exactly Mystic Meg, is it?

Scoham said:

Let's play a game to pass the time - which other 'meltdown' players are out there who we could still sign? And which tier would you put them in? A few examples based on signings so far:

God tier - guarantees automatic promotion
Scott Fraser

Quality tier - guarentees top 6
Joe Pigott
Charlie Wyke
Owen Dale
Charlie Kirk
Joel Randall

Good tier - proof of serious investment
Jordan Cousins
Stephen Humphrys
All the other Ipswich and Wigan signings, too many to name

Fraser is a very good signing, but don’t agree he should be classed as a “guarantees automatic promotion” player. 

Wheresmeticket? said:

It's all got very angry on here.

It's only football.

Sadly not just on here @Wheresmeticket? every bloody Charlton forum and Charlton related social media are having the same, insane, arguments!!
The main thrust being what TS said about "blowing the League away" and NA saying "that'll be us next year". They, to me, were two positive statements of how they saw it, AT THE TIME, yet quite a few people are saying we've been let down because players are being signed elsewhere and not by us!

Firstly, how do any of us know that those players (signed elsewhere) were on our target list in the first place?
Secondly, how do any of us know what they are doing behind the scenes and who we are signing?

People think they are entitled to know and because they don't they are throwing the baby out with the bath water!! It is, sadly, a sign of todays "must know now" society. That will not change, but calling out TS (I've seen various descriptions of him) is disingenuous to say the least and darn right disrespectful at the very worse. 
Finally I have seen people say that they are going to ask for a refund of their ST money, well let them and then let them go support someone else, I guarantee that the self same people, if we do sign 'top dollar' players in the upcoming days/weeks, will be moaning, if we don't win our first game, handsomely, that the team didn't have time to gel!!! 
People should be thankful we have a club and, for fear of repeating myself, they should go have have a look at the recently released accounts and see what a financial mess we were in, yet TS still cam to the rescue!!
Rant over!

Fuck it. I’m gonna make one up. Apparently we’re in for Charlie Kirk saw it In a dream

And Andy Delort 

Heard a rumour the museum is open tomorrow.

doronron said:

Every year we seem to end up with lots of loan plays and at the end of the season off they go back to there clubs,then the next season same again,let some of our own youngsters have a go,we are only in div 1,shouldn't be too hard to step up 

It isn't a "problem" unique to us though is it.  Signing players like Cullen, Beilik even Millar on permanents in league 1 is almost impossible.  While 5 loans isn't ideal get 3 or 4 ones of that level and it could make the difference between mid table and promotion. As it did in 18/19 even after the perfect summer window Powell still used loads of loans, although the rules were very different. 

ElliotCAFC said:

Scoham said:

Let's play a game to pass the time - which other 'meltdown' players are out there who we could still sign? And which tier would you put them in? A few examples based on signings so far:

God tier - guarantees automatic promotion
Scott Fraser

Quality tier - guarentees top 6
Joe Pigott
Charlie Wyke
Owen Dale
Charlie Kirk
Joel Randall

Good tier - proof of serious investment
Jordan Cousins
Stephen Humphrys
All the other Ipswich and Wigan signings, too many to name

Intresting that Crewe haven't sold anyone yet.........  

Pelling1993 said:

RedJohn said:

Scott Fraser is 26 years old and has played for the teams below..... Years	Team	Apps	(Gls)
2014–2018	Dundee United	81	(9)
2014–2015	→ Airdrieonians (loan)	28	(5)
2018–2020	Burton Albion	72	(11)
2020–2021	Milton Keynes Dons	44	(14)
2021–	Ipswich Town	0	(0)
Why is he so special that everybody wants him, his last game that most fans saw, he didnt get a kick, Pratley marked him out of the game.

He tore us apart the first time MK Dons played us last season, I'd guess that's probably the main thought process for most 

Plenty of average players did at the valley last season

rumour .. we won't be signing anyone else on a permanent basis

Scoham said:

AndyG said:

I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?

Because NA mentioned the academy so it means we’ll get a few loans at most then fill the remaining gaps in the squad with youth players.

They’ve decided our lack of activity recently is proof that this is the strategy.

Without any evidence to the contrary then I go by what I've seen & heard.

AndyG said:

addick1956 said:

stoneroses19 said:

addick1956 said:

FishCostaFortune said:

addick1956 said:

Jonniesta said:

Think I'm right in saying we're off the back of 1 defeat in 15. Stabilised the team, stabilised the accounts, saved us from the leeches, brought in the women's team, revamped the medical centre, opened a new training centre for the women's team, brought in a highly qualified manager, let go a lot of the driftwood, kept it open and refreshingly positive. Yet apparently by making an overly ambitious comment about where he'd like the team to be in 1/2/5 years, and because the squad isn't filled as quickly as the pampered masses were hoping, he's fair game for criticism? F'ing disgraceful. 

You sound like Boris moaning that not everyone is supporting  him after he fails though deliver on  promises.

It is simple.  People are grateful but they had hopes raised and the response was 9,000 season  tickets. 

It is wrong to mislead or over egg promises.  People will feel  they are let down. 

I would buy a season ticket anyway. However we are way short of a viable squad and time IS running out as is the choices available.  We all know the better players in this division.  One of them DJ. 
We do need more . Too many young players are not the answer apparently. 

What's misleading exactly? Thomas said he want's us to be in the premiership in 5 years - we are currently over 3 weeks before his first full season as owner. 

I find it utterly staggering how many adults on this forum are getting seemingly aggrieved due to an ambitious comment our owner made, and we've not even kicked a ball in anger yet.

Try the following. 

1) Next year we are going to storm this league.

2) Next year that will be us celebrating like Hull, who win the league. 

3) We will make a marquee signing( I think was said too, or misquoted to
me )

If that were true I don't see the full intent yet to be honest. I don't know who we failed to get except Graham from Gillingham and Solomon , ex Wigan. 

That is why people are complaining. 

We are 3 weeks from ko of the season. 

You’re of an age where you should know the difference between positive comments and true facts. Sandgaard and Adkins don’t know we will storm the league and lift the trophy, but they have belief that this club will do it. 

That is why people are not complaining. 

 So they were positive remarks and not ones that were meant to convey intent.  My mistake , sorry .

Are they nor showing intent ?

All these players that clubs have bought so far. Would you swap them for players we have in their position ?

Would be nice to have someone in their position for a start.....