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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,656
    I’ve always thought that the rebuild required on the pitch and off it would take a lot longer than a couple of windows. Of course I want promotion this season but I’m expecting it to take longer. The signing of decent players on three year deals will build us window by window into promotion contenders. If Wigan and Ipswich want to achieve it all in one then that’s risky in my opinion but good luck to them. Premiership in five years. No chance but steadily build year on year and I think we can be there in 7 - 10. That’ll do me. 
  • Champs85
    Champs85 Posts: 255
    Gotta laugh on here at the justifiers.

     If we had signed any of the players Wigan and Ipswich have signed the flag would be flying on the good ship promotion and not one word would be said about sensible spending, last year’s accounts or the previous owners.

    But because we have spent next to nothing and replaced a keeper with a keeper it’s all very sensible and justified and in Thomas we trust.
    Such self-entitlement from some of you. Why does everyone automatically expect our owner to throw his own money away on potentially overpriced players? He never said he was going to spend a fortune on us. Yes his comment about blowing the league away might have been a bit over the top and premature. But it could be he means by primarily building a sensible club structure and promoting youth. So many teams in this league would love to have signed the players we have so far. 

    Ipswich and Wigan are anomalies because they have rich owners going hell bent on promotion. If they don’t achieve it I’m sure it will all come crashing down and they’ll pull the plug. Many other teams have tried the same and come up well short. I’d far rather play it more sensibly if it means we still exist in 5 years time. 

    I don’t see how people feel they have the right to publicly criticise Sandgaard on social media or directly call him out. He’s the first owner in 10 years that is doing right by us but if idiots keep going at him then his good faith will eventually erode. 

    If in 1/2 years time he is failing then questions can be asked. Not when he hasn’t even owned us 1 whole season. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,960
    I’ve always thought that the rebuild required on the pitch and off it would take a lot longer than a couple of windows. Of course I want promotion this season but I’m expecting it to take longer. The signing of decent players on three year deals will build us window by window into promotion contenders. If Wigan and Ipswich want to achieve it all in one then that’s risky in my opinion but good luck to them. Premiership in five years. No chance but steadily build year on year and I think we can be there in 7 - 10. That’ll do me. 
    If we were in the Championship, then yes I'd entirely agree that we should take it steady and build gradually, rather than the sh*t or bust approach many clubs there have taken

    As we are in L1 though, we surely need to get out of here asap, as without that, none of the longer plans will ever get anywhere. After all that's exactly what the Spivs did when they took over. A new manager given a few months to assess the squad, a new squad recruited early in the summer (on 3 year deals), Yann the icing on the cake and boom, 101 points. 

    Obviously it went wrong afterwards, but it shows it can be done.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited July 2021
    I am fully Charltonised after 50 odd years.  Expect fuck all and you are rarely disapointed with this lot and sometimes, just sometimes you get your nads gently massaged by a good piece of news.

    "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose “ 
    Are you hinting that we are in for Maxime Le Marchand?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I’ve always thought that the rebuild required on the pitch and off it would take a lot longer than a couple of windows. Of course I want promotion this season but I’m expecting it to take longer. The signing of decent players on three year deals will build us window by window into promotion contenders. If Wigan and Ipswich want to achieve it all in one then that’s risky in my opinion but good luck to them. Premiership in five years. No chance but steadily build year on year and I think we can be there in 7 - 10. That’ll do me. 
    But you just lose so much money in League 1. You talk about decent players on three year deals but if they're good they'll want to go. If we had signed Famewo permanently, or go out and buy someone like Dale, they're not going to stick around and wait for us to steadily improve when they'll have other offers on the table, just like at Doughty. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,834
    Jac_52 said:
    You people realise Wigan came 20th last year right? They've made some decent signings sure but they've also weakened Portsmouth and Sunderland in the process.

    Our form under Adkins was top 2 form (1.9pts per game) and we're going into this season stronger than we started with last year.

    People aren't trying to justify anything they're just saying stop crying like a toddler because we haven't signed Pigott, Bonne, Fraser, Cousins, Wyke or Power. Our business isn't done and if it is then throw your tantrums.
    I agree that we should judge when the business has been done.  So far , we’ve
    signed a belter in Famewo, a very good one in Stockley and beyond that probably a replacement for Pratley, so I can kind of understand the angst.  
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Any rumours? No? I’ll get my coat. 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,464
    wmcf123 said:
    Jac_52 said:
    You people realise Wigan came 20th last year right? They've made some decent signings sure but they've also weakened Portsmouth and Sunderland in the process.

    Our form under Adkins was top 2 form (1.9pts per game) and we're going into this season stronger than we started with last year.

    People aren't trying to justify anything they're just saying stop crying like a toddler because we haven't signed Pigott, Bonne, Fraser, Cousins, Wyke or Power. Our business isn't done and if it is then throw your tantrums.
    I agree that we should judge when the business has been done.  So far , we’ve
    signed a belter in Famewo, a very good one in Stockley and beyond that probably a replacement for Pratley, so I can kind of understand the angst.  

    Personally I expected, and would have liked, us to have signed a few more by this point but we haven't and we've been told our business hasn't been concluded.

    A bit of angst I understand, but some of the reactions on here go way beyond that and into the realm of pathetic. Honestly at this exponentially increasing rate of angst it wouldn't surprise me to see a genuine "sandgaard out" comment in the next week when Ipswich or Wigan sign another player we probably weren't interested in.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,709
    I’ve always thought that the rebuild required on the pitch and off it would take a lot longer than a couple of windows. Of course I want promotion this season but I’m expecting it to take longer. The signing of decent players on three year deals will build us window by window into promotion contenders. If Wigan and Ipswich want to achieve it all in one then that’s risky in my opinion but good luck to them. Premiership in five years. No chance but steadily build year on year and I think we can be there in 7 - 10. That’ll do me. 
    I understand the point but another year in this league is another £5m of Sandgaards money. If he’s loaned us £10.5m then that’s half of it gone. 

    Financially it makes most sense to get out of this league as quickly as possible. 

    There’s definitely some overreactions amongst the fan base but equally there’s no problem in questioning why we haven’t done anything in the window yet. 

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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,921
    I’ve always thought that the rebuild required on the pitch and off it would take a lot longer than a couple of windows. Of course I want promotion this season but I’m expecting it to take longer. The signing of decent players on three year deals will build us window by window into promotion contenders. If Wigan and Ipswich want to achieve it all in one then that’s risky in my opinion but good luck to them. Premiership in five years. No chance but steadily build year on year and I think we can be there in 7 - 10. That’ll do me. 
    I understand the point but another year in this league is another £5m of Sandgaards money. If he’s loaned us £10.5m then that’s half of it gone. 

    Financially it makes most sense to get out of this league as quickly as possible. 

    There’s definitely some overreactions amongst the fan base but equally there’s no problem in questioning why we haven’t done anything in the window yet. 
    Maybe the Manager thinks after having a look last year he already has a squad that can get promoted with just a few additions ? 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,284
    edited July 2021
    AndyG said:
    I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?



    I'm no expert but I will stand up right now & put any amount of money up that you want to say, we aren't going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    If the team shows as much fight and pricklyness, as the people on this forum, Ipswich and Wigan will need to spend a lot more!!😂, yes I crowbarred the word prickliness into a post and I don’t know if either way is the correct spelling!!!, everyone just calm ya skins down, it will all work out!!………..I hope😬.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    I thought this was a fans forum where you can share your views whether others agree or not? 

    Swearing and ganging up on other fans because they are quoting what our owner and manager have said publicly isn’t cool guys, whether it’s been taken out of context or not. 



  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited July 2021
    paulfox said:
    If the team shows as much fight and pricklyness pointless aggression, as the people on this forum, Ipswich and Wigan will need to spend a lot more win their games against us on penalties!! 😂, yes I crowbarred the word prickliness into a post and I don’t know if either way is the correct spelling!!!, everyone just calm ya skins down, it will all work out!!………..I hope😬.
    Suggested amendment for you.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    paulfox said:
    If the team shows as much fight and pricklyness pointless aggression, as the people on this forum, Ipswich and Wigan will need to spend a lot more win their games against us on penalties!! 😂, yes I crowbarred the word prickliness into a post and I don’t know if either way is the correct spelling!!!, everyone just calm ya skins down, it will all work out!!………..I hope😬.
    Suggested amendment for you.
    Indeed!!,👍
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    paulfox said:
    If the team shows as much fight and pricklyness pointless aggression, as the people on this forum, Ipswich and Wigan will need to spend a lot more win their games against us on penalties!! 😂, yes I crowbarred the word prickliness into a post and I don’t know if either way is the correct spelling!!!, everyone just calm ya skins down, it will all work out!!………..I hope😬.
    Suggested amendment for you.
    Thanks, I feel important now, I have my own proof reader!!!!. Honestly though there’s a lot of hot under the collar going on, and we’ve obviously not finished recruitment. Let’s wait and see.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Another day done
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,793
    J BLOCK said:
    Another day done
    Shall I turn off the lights and lock up
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,033
    This thread is getting very boring ................ help, someone come up with a genuine rumour so we can stop the petty squabbling

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    J BLOCK said:
    Another day done
    Shall I turn off the lights and lock up
    No Ipswich need the lights on to lift their trophy.  What a waste of 9 months this will be, just waiting for the inevitable........

    Good job they handed France the euros before a ball was kicked. 
  • Leuth said:
    A little bit of perspective is needed here 
    Gonna blow this league away next season. 
    Premier league within 5 years. 
    European football within 7 years. 

    So 
    Watson
    Pearce 
    Gunter 
    Foster Caskey 
    Mathews. 


    Buzzing. 
    Can't fucking wait.
    Your increasing embitterment has been sad to witness
    Happy clappy 
    Has never been my strong point. 
    I call it as I see it. 
    If that offends you I'm sorry 
    No one should be happy clappy, but no one should be wetting the bed…
  • I think tomorrow is going to be a good day for Charlton fans.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    I think tomorrow is going to be a good day for Charlton fans.
    Did you really post this????  Uh oh!!!😂
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,793
    edited July 2021
    I think tomorrow is going to be a good day for Charlton fans.
    Tomorrow never comes though does it, ad infinitum............ B)
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,440
    I think tomorrow is going to be a good day for Charlton fans.

  • Get the bad news about the shocking state of our accounts out to digest today, then bam bam bam …..

    I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes…
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Get the bad news about the shocking state of our accounts out to digest today, then bam bam bam …..

    I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes…
    Are we signing someone from Wet,Wet,Wet??
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,230
    edited July 2021
    paulfox said:
    Get the bad news about the shocking state of our accounts out to digest today, then bam bam bam …..

    I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes…
    Are we signing someone from Wet,Wet,Wet??
    The Bed
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,709
    Get the bad news about the shocking state of our accounts out to digest today, then bam bam bam …..

    I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes…
    The next two weeks are crucial, round and round we go
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