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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    JamesSeed said:
    Saying 'Davidson is good enough' is clearly a cover for the fact we've been priced out of getting a good replacement for Aneke. 

    Going into this season with clearly worse striking options than last season. 
    The window hasn't closed yet.
    What happened to ," A good preseason is essential "?
    If the core of the squad has a good preseason those outside of it should be able to catch up if they have been training with their previous clubs. 
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Sage said:
    I don’t think people are having a meltdown. Fans are allowed to believe that the strike force as it is right now is not strong enough and will put enormous pressure on Stockley.

    Aneke may have only scored one for us previous to last season, but he had proven it at this level before. I remember this time last year saying he’ll be an asset and being laughed at. He was a fantastic player at this level who unfortunately couldn’t last a full game. But when he played he made a huge difference.

    Without that additional quality up front, you can see why people believe we will find it harder this season. I don’t find that being negative, to me that is being realistic.

    If Stockley was to miss a chunk of the season, we would see the quality in the attack drop dramatically. That’s not a criticism of Davison because he has potential, I just don’t see anything that says he will be at the level required to get promoted this season.
    Speaking for myself (as somebody who opposed the view) it was more coming from an angle that we appear to be writing off us actually signing a striker with many weeks left before the window closes. I trust the club and if they genuinely think Davidson is up to it then time will tell, but I do think it's more a game of public poker with inflated club prices for League One strikers.
  • What's happened to the winger that was very close to signing? 
    Tyreece Campbell?  ;)
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,959
    Vfrf said:
    Sage said:
    I don’t think people are having a meltdown. Fans are allowed to believe that the strike force as it is right now is not strong enough and will put enormous pressure on Stockley.

    Aneke may have only scored one for us previous to last season, but he had proven it at this level before. I remember this time last year saying he’ll be an asset and being laughed at. He was a fantastic player at this level who unfortunately couldn’t last a full game. But when he played he made a huge difference.

    Without that additional quality up front, you can see why people believe we will find it harder this season. I don’t find that being negative, to me that is being realistic.

    If Stockley was to miss a chunk of the season, we would see the quality in the attack drop dramatically. That’s not a criticism of Davison because he has potential, I just don’t see anything that says he will be at the level required to get promoted this season.
    Speaking for myself (as somebody who opposed the view) it was more coming from an angle that we appear to be writing off us actually signing a striker with many weeks left before the window closes. I trust the club and if they genuinely think Davidson is up to it then time will tell, but I do think it's more a game of public poker with inflated club prices for League One strikers.
    Adkins said himself that he's been really impressed with Davison in pre-season.

    I think I'll leave judgement to the experts.

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Sage said:
    I don’t think people are having a meltdown. Fans are allowed to believe that the strike force as it is right now is not strong enough and will put enormous pressure on Stockley.

    Aneke may have only scored one for us previous to last season, but he had proven it at this level before. I remember this time last year saying he’ll be an asset and being laughed at. He was a fantastic player at this level who unfortunately couldn’t last a full game. But when he played he made a huge difference.

    Without that additional quality up front, you can see why people believe we will find it harder this season. I don’t find that being negative, to me that is being realistic.

    If Stockley was to miss a chunk of the season, we would see the quality in the attack drop dramatically. That’s not a criticism of Davison because he has potential, I just don’t see anything that says he will be at the level required to get promoted this season.
    This. Feels like you can only be too optimistic or too pessimistic on the forum these days, and are criticised either way. 

    I think Schwartz will go though, so maybe Davison will just be 4th choice and we'll bring one in. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,513
    Oggy Red said:
    Vfrf said:
    Sage said:
    I don’t think people are having a meltdown. Fans are allowed to believe that the strike force as it is right now is not strong enough and will put enormous pressure on Stockley.

    Aneke may have only scored one for us previous to last season, but he had proven it at this level before. I remember this time last year saying he’ll be an asset and being laughed at. He was a fantastic player at this level who unfortunately couldn’t last a full game. But when he played he made a huge difference.

    Without that additional quality up front, you can see why people believe we will find it harder this season. I don’t find that being negative, to me that is being realistic.

    If Stockley was to miss a chunk of the season, we would see the quality in the attack drop dramatically. That’s not a criticism of Davison because he has potential, I just don’t see anything that says he will be at the level required to get promoted this season.
    Speaking for myself (as somebody who opposed the view) it was more coming from an angle that we appear to be writing off us actually signing a striker with many weeks left before the window closes. I trust the club and if they genuinely think Davidson is up to it then time will tell, but I do think it's more a game of public poker with inflated club prices for League One strikers.
    Adkins said himself that he's been really impressed with Davison in pre-season.

    I think I'll leave judgement to the experts.

    Your right…. Davison got the build to be a very good striker , he did ok for us in the championship for a few games but saw him play for FGR and he looked awful at times .. suppose it’s last chance saloon for him .. good luck to him 

  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,280
    JamesSeed said:
    Sage said:
    Chunes said:
    Only two other teams scored more goals than us last season... And yet we still had a thread titled: "Where are the goals going to come from?"

    More of the same.
    3 other teams scored more than us last season.

    We have lost our top scorer who got 15, but also because of his presence caused us to score more goals even if it wasn’t him putting the ball in the back of the net.

    Take out that contribution of just Aneke’s goals and we would have had 55, only 8 teams scoring fewer.

    We won’t get near the total of goals we scored last season with the current 4 strikers. Davison is not Aneke. We need to bring in a striker and would be very disappointed if we don’t.
    But we wouldn't have been playing with ten men without Aneke, and whoever would have replaced him would have chipped in.
    Still pretty sure we'll bring in a striker/winger.
    Not necessarily, we had Bogle and Smyth remember, neither were of the required standard either. Just because we have someone else doesn’t mean they’re going to be good enough or replace that impact.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    Who was it that suggested Gomes was training with us?

    A quick google suggests last season was his first full season so 3 goals and 3 assists whilst not phenomenal isn't awful.

    Any updates on his progress?
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Oggy Red said:
    Vfrf said:
    Sage said:
    I don’t think people are having a meltdown. Fans are allowed to believe that the strike force as it is right now is not strong enough and will put enormous pressure on Stockley.

    Aneke may have only scored one for us previous to last season, but he had proven it at this level before. I remember this time last year saying he’ll be an asset and being laughed at. He was a fantastic player at this level who unfortunately couldn’t last a full game. But when he played he made a huge difference.

    Without that additional quality up front, you can see why people believe we will find it harder this season. I don’t find that being negative, to me that is being realistic.

    If Stockley was to miss a chunk of the season, we would see the quality in the attack drop dramatically. That’s not a criticism of Davison because he has potential, I just don’t see anything that says he will be at the level required to get promoted this season.
    Speaking for myself (as somebody who opposed the view) it was more coming from an angle that we appear to be writing off us actually signing a striker with many weeks left before the window closes. I trust the club and if they genuinely think Davidson is up to it then time will tell, but I do think it's more a game of public poker with inflated club prices for League One strikers.
    Adkins said himself that he's been really impressed with Davison in pre-season.

    I think I'll leave judgement to the experts.

    Me too - I said as much on the previous page.

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  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,556
    edited July 2021
    Davison needs a good hair cut before he gets my support.
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…. How does that work happy clappers?

    He’s a physical presence and a willing runner but in the 5 or 6 games I seen him in it’s clear he’s not a natural finisher and doesn’t have any guile to his game.

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap.

    If Jayden is injured and JD starts we aren’t going up and we also have nothing off the bench to change or save a game. 

    Let’s hope we sign our Malik Wilks 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,886
    From the few times I’ve seen him, I think he is a good finisher.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,680
    Davison needs a good hair cut before he gets my support.
    Short back and sides and a bit off the top eh,  B)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    edited July 2021
    Maccn05 said:
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap. 
    In fairness I think it's the same people complaining... But I haven't checked. 

    Where is Adkins telling us the bold bit?

    Finally where do you get off calling people happy clappers? After the last 6-7 years fans have a reason to be happy we have a good manager an owner who appears to understand the fans and how to remain sustainable (so we don't end up in dire financial situations like under the spivs and end up being sold to a crazy belgian narcissist)

    I honestly think some people choose to be miserable and enjoy doing so. 
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    Maccn05 said:
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…. How does that work happy clappers?

    He’s a physical presence and a willing runner but in the 5 or 6 games I seen him in it’s clear he’s not a natural finisher and doesn’t have any guile to his game.

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap.

    If Jayden is injured and JD starts we aren’t going up and we also have nothing off the bench to change or save a game. 

    Let’s hope we sign our Malik Wilks 
    Posh chairman didn't say we were one of the clubs bidding on Eisa

  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,213
    Maccn05 said:
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…. How does that work happy clappers?

    He’s a physical presence and a willing runner but in the 5 or 6 games I seen him in it’s clear he’s not a natural finisher and doesn’t have any guile to his game.

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap.

    If Jayden is injured and JD starts we aren’t going up and we also have nothing off the bench to change or save a game. 

    Let’s hope we sign our Malik Wilks 
    People are saying they are happy with Davison because the manager is so happy with him he’s decided not to loan him out.

    He’s 21 and you’ve decided he hasn’t got guile from the 5/6 games you’ve seen of him when he was 19?  You do realise young players get better, that’s the idea of keeping them around.

    Each to their own but I’d suggest you’ve jumped the gun a bit on the guy.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,513
    Maccn05 said:
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…. How does that work happy clappers?

    He’s a physical presence and a willing runner but in the 5 or 6 games I seen him in it’s clear he’s not a natural finisher and doesn’t have any guile to his game.

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap.

    If Jayden is injured and JD starts we aren’t going up and we also have nothing off the bench to change or save a game. 

    Let’s hope we sign our Malik Wilks 
    Peterbro chairman did not mention us by name and Richard Cawley denied we made any bid at all … don’t think paying 800,000 for two players is doing it on the cheap we just not paying the stupid prices that we are being quoted …
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,311
    Running out of time to announce the new sponsor "this week" aren't we?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited July 2021
    sam3110 said:
    Running out of time to announce the new sponsor "this week" aren't we?
    "Kit sponsors: Charlton and Charlton Athletic Women’s kit sponsors for the 2021/22 season are set to be confirmed this week"

    Doesn't say announced does it?

    If they did the kit photos yesterday I would say it has been confirmed, wouldn't you? 

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,370
    Davison needs a good hair cut before he gets my support.
    Jealousy is a terrible trait 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    thought Monday was mentioned
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    sam3110 said:
    Running out of time to announce the new sponsor "this week" aren't we?
    There's a load of hour left in the working day
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    I would be more surprised than dissapointed if we don't bring a forward in.  It feels this season might be weirder than the one hit by covid.

    Football has been hit by long covid perhaps!
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,928
    Kits are released on Monday, for those that are overly excited to learn of our new sponsor... so we'll know by then at least. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,311
    I just think the sponsor will be an indicator of where TS is at in terms of realising his dreams and ambitions. I'm not expecting Amazon, Tesla or Google to be sponsoring us, but again I'd be worried if "Dave's pie shop" is emblazoned on the new kit
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,487
    So which betting company are we going to have? 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,636
    So which betting company are we going to have? 
    That would be a significant blow imho
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,382
    Sage said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Sage said:
    Chunes said:
    Only two other teams scored more goals than us last season... And yet we still had a thread titled: "Where are the goals going to come from?"

    More of the same.
    3 other teams scored more than us last season.

    We have lost our top scorer who got 15, but also because of his presence caused us to score more goals even if it wasn’t him putting the ball in the back of the net.

    Take out that contribution of just Aneke’s goals and we would have had 55, only 8 teams scoring fewer.

    We won’t get near the total of goals we scored last season with the current 4 strikers. Davison is not Aneke. We need to bring in a striker and would be very disappointed if we don’t.
    But we wouldn't have been playing with ten men without Aneke, and whoever would have replaced him would have chipped in.
    Still pretty sure we'll bring in a striker/winger.
    Not necessarily, we had Bogle and Smyth remember, neither were of the required standard either. Just because we have someone else doesn’t mean they’re going to be good enough or replace that impact.
    Yeah, actually Aneke did have a very good goals per minute ratio. I wonder if Josh Parker was available?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,423
    Maccn05 said:
    So so two weeks ago everyone was saying we shouldn’t sign Mullen (L2’s top scorer) as he was a one season wonder but now we’re happy to have Davison - a no season wonder who wasn’t scoring or even good enough to start for a promotion chasing FGR…. How does that work happy clappers?

    He’s a physical presence and a willing runner but in the 5 or 6 games I seen him in it’s clear he’s not a natural finisher and doesn’t have any guile to his game.

    Adkins is telling us he’s in the squad because we can’t afford to buy an Eisa (bid confirmed by Darragh) but MK can. We are doing this on the cheap.

    If Jayden is injured and JD starts we aren’t going up and we also have nothing off the bench to change or save a game. 

    Let’s hope we sign our Malik Wilks 
    I wouldn’t be happy with Mullin or Davison, however I’m not completely writing Davison off or seeing it as proof that we won’t sign/loan a better striker, perhaps one who can also play wide - maybe our Malik Wilks as you say.

    I don’t see how not signing Eisa is proof we’re doing anything on the cheap. Cawley said we weren’t in for him and there are other players out there, including some who are probably better value for money.
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