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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,547
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    If Adkins wants to stick with 4-3-3 then he needs another target man / hold up player to compete with Stockley or replace him if he’s unavailable. There’s only room for one target man in 4-3-3 so whoever comes in needs to be similar to Stockley ? From where and to play second fiddle ? Or we could go 4-4-2 with Washington / Jephcott if Stockley isn’t around. Seems crazy not to sign another striker who can offer something else when 4-3-3 isn’t working.

    Adkins has changed up formations at all his previous club's in the past so don't see why he'd now become Karl Robinson MK2 and only play a 433. 

    You also don't have to just play a target man lump in the 433/ lone forward role, plenty of the top clubs and national sides for an extreme example, granted league 1 calls for that though.

    We might not have seen him set up with 2 forwards but, realistically, he's only had Stockley to work with so far. 

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Athletico Charlton said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    £600k on Jephcott would be a bit of a steal. Be interesting if clubs start to take what's on the table 
    No nothing about him but his stats suggest he is a half season wonder so far.  Last season was his break out year but he failed to score in any of the last 20 games.
    He'd made his mark the season before in League 2 as Argyle won promotion.

    Anyway, last season at The Valley, he was good enough to score twice against Charlton.


  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,238
    Dazzler21 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    If Adkins wants to stick with 4-3-3 then he needs another target man / hold up player to compete with Stockley or replace him if he’s unavailable. There’s only room for one target man in 4-3-3 so whoever comes in needs to be similar to Stockley ? From where and to play second fiddle ? Or we could go 4-4-2 with Washington / Jephcott if Stockley isn’t around. Seems crazy not to sign another striker who can offer something else when 4-3-3 isn’t working.
    3-5-2 maybe? Obviously prefer a proper set of wingbacks.

    MacGillivray
    Inniss - Pearce - Famewo
    Matthews - Clare - Morgan - Dobson - Gunter 
    Washington - Jephcott

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    cafc4life said:
    Another 10+ posts talking about Ipswich today . Yawn. Head over to their forum instead of clogging up this one with shit. www.ivegotsevenfingerslife.com
    Ipswich? So yesterday's discussion. Are you still only reading page 439 ....?

    Since then we've moved on to discussing Peteborough's transfer policy, greedy L*le T*ylor refusing to play (again) and wondering whether we should laugh at @redbuttle now being known as redbutthole.

    There might even be a Jephcott rumour. Although probably from a spotty wanked out 16 year old with a fake account winding us up.

  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,553
    Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    I’ve mentioned this briefly before but one of the problems is the cost of housing/living in the SE.
    Attracting young unmarried players is not quite so much of a problem, however it does become quite a thing for older married players with families.
    To uproot from elsewhere and move down to the London area is a considerable increase in outgoings.
    Let’s say a three year deal is on offer. What do they do….buy or rent……take into consideration that they probably already own a property elsewhere as well.
    We then are at a distinct disadvantage because the salaries will be very similar wherever they are in the country, but ‘not’ the cost of living.
    Something to think about and certainly a factor to be taken into account.
    Anyone know how much a 3 bed semi is in Plymouth?  

    Its a massive issue and probably outways the "living in London" bonus. 
    House prices are going mental in the South West .... it seems half of London has decided to move to Cornwall and South Devon, dreaming of a better way of living.


    Yeah, clear off and leave us to our idyllic isolation.

    Seriously, I think far too many people living in and around London have a higher opinion of it than those of us living in the country.

    If you like it, fine but I wouldn't move back into the land of angry drivers not getting anywhere fast in filthy toxic air. Just a short occasional visit is just fine thanks. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,422
    CAFCsayer said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    If Adkins wants to stick with 4-3-3 then he needs another target man / hold up player to compete with Stockley or replace him if he’s unavailable. There’s only room for one target man in 4-3-3 so whoever comes in needs to be similar to Stockley ? From where and to play second fiddle ? Or we could go 4-4-2 with Washington / Jephcott if Stockley isn’t around. Seems crazy not to sign another striker who can offer something else when 4-3-3 isn’t working.
    3-5-2 maybe? Obviously prefer a proper set of wingbacks.

    MacGillivray
    Inniss - Pearce - Famewo
    Matthews - Clare - Morgan - Dobson - Gunter 
    Washington - Jephcott

    I agree, but was in response to the supposition that we go 4-4-2 with Washington and Jephcott, I'd prefer however we kept our central midfield three.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,619
    I’d be well happy if Jephcott signed, sort of player we should be signing.
  • Leaburn Forever
    Leaburn Forever Posts: 351
    edited August 2021
    My Plymouth relative (season ticket holder at Plymouth) said Jephcott scores lots of tap ins, apart from that he's shite.  
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    edited August 2021
    Re Jephcott - He’s young, pretty good with both feet and scores headers too.  He doesn’t have blistering pace and won’t beat 5 men with skill but he does have a knack of being in the right place in the box and finishes calmly rather than lashing it.

    600k would be a lot for a chap playing for Truro up until a couple of years ago especially when that player isn’t vastly different to Stockley

    Time will tell I guess
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,463
    Pavoren007 said:
    purrington following Jephcott on Instagram Don’t know if that means anything but there you have it…
    They played together..

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,389
    edited August 2021
    I'd rather Charles than Jephcott, personally. Charles has more to his all-round game and is the kind of striker who can turn his man and score. Jephcott is a poacher, and I think they are valued less and less in the modern game. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,289
    Chunes said:
    I'd rather Charles than Jephcott, personally. Charles has more to his all-round game and is the kind of striker who can turn his man and score. Jephcott is a poacher, and I think they are valued less and less in the modern game. 
    I don't think we have the choice of either quite frankly and I very much doubt we are in for a striker like that with our formation.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,132
    Billy_Mix said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    I’ve mentioned this briefly before but one of the problems is the cost of housing/living in the SE.
    Attracting young unmarried players is not quite so much of a problem, however it does become quite a thing for older married players with families.
    To uproot from elsewhere and move down to the London area is a considerable increase in outgoings.
    Let’s say a three year deal is on offer. What do they do….buy or rent……take into consideration that they probably already own a property elsewhere as well?
    We then are at a distinct disadvantage because the salaries will be very similar wherever they are in the country, but ‘not’ the cost of living.
    Something to think about and certainly a factor to be taken into account.
    These players will be on £200k to £250k p.a.  that easily gets them a mortgage of £800k to £1M if they're even seriously considering buying.  Yes property prices are high in the SE London region but that sort of budget buys plenty to house a family
    If contracts are 3 years or less, they'll be looking to rent and the cost disparity there is much much smaller
    They've all got agents to help out with this sort of thing.  Charlton also has the very best in player support in TJL
    There's a reason houses are pricier hereabouts than in unflushed sewers like Portsmouth, Crewe, Wigan, Ipswich, Peterborough
    Chislehurst or Southsea?  Really  FFS Dartford's a much nicer place to be than any of those mentioned
    If it's any real factor, housing costs are way down a long list of issues.
    Your penultimate paragraph is way off the mark.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,759
    I'd like us to try to get Baah on loan from Watford. He is at an age where he has to play games and it is surely unlikely he will feature in the Premier League, although not impossible. If Watford decide it is a bit early for him, we ought to be there ready.
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,443
    TellyTubby said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    I’ve mentioned this briefly before but one of the problems is the cost of housing/living in the SE.
    Attracting young unmarried players is not quite so much of a problem, however it does become quite a thing for older married players with families.
    To uproot from elsewhere and move down to the London area is a considerable increase in outgoings.
    Let’s say a three year deal is on offer. What do they do….buy or rent……take into consideration that they probably already own a property elsewhere as well.
    We then are at a distinct disadvantage because the salaries will be very similar wherever they are in the country, but ‘not’ the cost of living.
    Something to think about and certainly a factor to be taken into account.
    Anyone know how much a 3 bed semi is in Plymouth?  

    Its a massive issue and probably outways the "living in London" bonus. 
    House prices are going mental in the South West .... it seems half of London has decided to move to Cornwall and South Devon, dreaming of a better way of living.


    Yeah, clear off and leave us to our idyllic isolation.

    Seriously, I think far too many people living in and around London have a higher opinion of it than those of us living in the country.

    If you like it, fine but I wouldn't move back into the land of angry drivers not getting anywhere fast in filthy toxic air. Just a short occasional visit is just fine thanks. 
    Yep. Swapped London to living in West Yorkshire, would not consider going back. Much better quality of life and bigger house 
  • Red_Chester
    Red_Chester Posts: 750
    robroy said:
    TellyTubby said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    I’ve mentioned this briefly before but one of the problems is the cost of housing/living in the SE.
    Attracting young unmarried players is not quite so much of a problem, however it does become quite a thing for older married players with families.
    To uproot from elsewhere and move down to the London area is a considerable increase in outgoings.
    Let’s say a three year deal is on offer. What do they do….buy or rent……take into consideration that they probably already own a property elsewhere as well.
    We then are at a distinct disadvantage because the salaries will be very similar wherever they are in the country, but ‘not’ the cost of living.
    Something to think about and certainly a factor to be taken into account.
    Anyone know how much a 3 bed semi is in Plymouth?  

    Its a massive issue and probably outways the "living in London" bonus. 
    House prices are going mental in the South West .... it seems half of London has decided to move to Cornwall and South Devon, dreaming of a better way of living.


    Yeah, clear off and leave us to our idyllic isolation.

    Seriously, I think far too many people living in and around London have a higher opinion of it than those of us living in the country.

    If you like it, fine but I wouldn't move back into the land of angry drivers not getting anywhere fast in filthy toxic air. Just a short occasional visit is just fine thanks. 
    Yep. Swapped London to living in West Yorkshire, would not consider going back. Much better quality of life and bigger house 
    Morning all the sun is shining the birds are singing and this thread is a mess again. 
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    To be fair, the standard of this thread is only as bad as it is because there is literally nothing to talking about.

    We dont even get linked with any players, let alone sign them. I cant remember there ever being a first game of the season where there has only been 3 new faces in the squad.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    To be fair, the standard of this thread is only as bad as it is because there is literally nothing to talking about.

    We dont even get linked with any players, let alone sign them. I cant remember there ever being a first game of the season where there has only been 3 new faces in the squad.
    There was only 2 last season, wasn't there? 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    To be fair, the standard of this thread is only as bad as it is because there is literally nothing to talking about.

    We dont even get linked with any players, let alone sign them. I cant remember there ever being a first game of the season where there has only been 3 new faces in the squad.
    I’ve got a feeling we will sign a player today.  It’s probably the last day to get a player in with a view to him being involved on Saturday and getting at least 1 training session in with the rest of the squad.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,428
    We don’t even get linked with players in the media... with Cawley on holiday we don’t even get confirmation that there’s no truth in the made up rumours from Twitter and other social media.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    To be fair, the standard of this thread is only as bad as it is because there is literally nothing to talking about.

    We dont even get linked with any players, let alone sign them. I cant remember there ever being a first game of the season where there has only been 3 new faces in the squad.
    There was only 2 last season, wasn't there? 
    Yes, Washington and Gilbey. Although Levitt was an unused sub. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,259
    @Dazzler21 put yourself on your own naughty list for suggesting Gunter as a left wing back on the other page.  
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    To be fair, the standard of this thread is only as bad as it is because there is literally nothing to talking about.

    We dont even get linked with any players, let alone sign them. I cant remember there ever being a first game of the season where there has only been 3 new faces in the squad.
    There was only 2 last season, wasn't there? 
    LOL. Fair enough!

    Completely forgot the window stayed open till Oct last year. I thought we signed Shinnie, Gunter, Inniss & Watson much earlier.

    Maybe it's the difference in expectation this yr vs being under an embargo last yr which has made this summer seem so quiet (he says back peddling ferociously!)
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,130
    Swisdom said:
    Re Jephcott - He’s young, pretty good with both feet and scores headers too.  He doesn’t have blistering pace and won’t beat 5 men with skill but he does have a knack of being in the right place in the box and finishes calmly rather than lashing it.


    Haven't we already got one of those, never gets a game, don't fit into our system, on a long contract and everybody wants to jog him on?
    Do we really need another?
    Just saying
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,726
    The gaffer does seem extra chipper this morning,hopefully some good news on the way🤞
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    edited August 2021
    TellyTubby said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    I’ve mentioned this briefly before but one of the problems is the cost of housing/living in the SE.
    Attracting young unmarried players is not quite so much of a problem, however it does become quite a thing for older married players with families.
    To uproot from elsewhere and move down to the London area is a considerable increase in outgoings.
    Let’s say a three year deal is on offer. What do they do….buy or rent……take into consideration that they probably already own a property elsewhere as well.
    We then are at a distinct disadvantage because the salaries will be very similar wherever they are in the country, but ‘not’ the cost of living.
    Something to think about and certainly a factor to be taken into account.
    Anyone know how much a 3 bed semi is in Plymouth?  

    Its a massive issue and probably outways the "living in London" bonus. 
    House prices are going mental in the South West .... it seems half of London has decided to move to Cornwall and South Devon, dreaming of a better way of living.


    Yeah, clear off and leave us to our idyllic isolation.

    Seriously, I think far too many people living in and around London have a higher opinion of it than those of us living in the country.

    If you like it, fine but I wouldn't move back into the land of angry drivers not getting anywhere fast in filthy toxic air. Just a short occasional visit is just fine thanks. 

    Likewise - I always thought I would when I retire, but would not move back now. I love to visit London (not just Charlton) but it's great to get back home to peace, empty'ish roads and a less frantic way of life.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,713
    edited August 2021

    Agree Nige does sound upbeat, and you could be right @Henry Irving ,
    Let's not forget Gallen did say last Saturday two permanent's were incoming this week, so today just could be a good day for us all,... keep smiling B)
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