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IN-DEPTH | Summer transfer window 2021

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    My faith was wavering at the season of the start ..  the recent signings have reignited my belief .. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Aggghhh it's Ged the root of evil!
  • Aaaaargh, even Thomas says "the proof is in the pudding"
    Validation is not a fecking threepenny bit ffs
  • Great article, nice to see the club come out and give a full update from all corners. 

    “Smart, sensible and sustainable is the transfer strategy in place” what a beautiful sentence to see associated with our club, we bloody deserve it too! 
  • What does the black box think of Jacob Roddy? 😏
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Many fans thought they deserved an explanation about the direction we were taking in the transfer window. It's good that there is transparency as to the policies in place. 
  • Nice to have a plan other than 'let's milk this club for all its worth '.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited September 2021
    We knew they'd be rebuilding our recruitment set up but great to find out more about it. As you'd hope to hear we're combining analytics, video and traditional scouting, they all have a part to play.

    It's not so much a revolution but bringing us in line with where we should be, the kind of things well run clubs have done well for years.

    Interesting to see a few people named on the OS for the first time, recruitment analysts Ruben Sammut and Aaron Barnes (our former academy player, explains why he was at a game recently), and Dan Pelchen.

    Looking at Pelchen's LinkedIn he was at Chelsea as Lead Recruitment and Data Analyst:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pelchen-7b78a674

    Sammut is also on LinkedIn, his role with us is '1st Team Recruitment Coordinator'. 'Ruben' was mentioned in an interview (Adkins I think) earlier this year and from what a few had said it seemed clear it was him.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruben-sammut-67292712a

    Roddy also mentions looking at what we can learn. It's clear they did that ahead of this summer with younger players joining on permanent deals and older loan players rather than the Smith/Smyth/Levitts coming in. This summer should give them a better picture of our position in the market. Hopefully we won't need to sign so many late on or even after the window.

    They've also been open that we'll sell players. We've already seen signs of it, Bonne being the best example, ultimately sold because the offer was too good to turned down. Nothing wrong with that if it's combined with ambition and some of the money is reinvested in the squad, something we never saw under RD.

    Looking forward to seeing how our squad develops over the next few years.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited September 2021
    Just looked at Dan Pelchen's LinkedIn profile. Worked with Collingwood Football Club (Aussie Rules) and Chelsea over the last seven years in an analytics capacity (both performance analytics and recruitment).

    Have to say I'm mega jealous - think that would be my dream job!
  • It’s a great article and great to have the transparency 

    it still won’t be enough for some though 
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  • Interesting article.

    Hope the club does more of this sort of longer, more in depth article.

    Good to find out who the analysts are and some of the process. Some young guys in there like Barnes.

    I thought the use of both stats and human factors was the most important alongside it being long term.

    It won't please everyone and yes it's from the club so not unbiased.

    But the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

  • LoOkOuT said:
    Just looked up Dan Pelchen on LinkedIn. Looks young, but he’s got great hair!

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    Don't ever do that again
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Oh and 51% is a majority - can we have less spin and pr please?
  • We can only wait and see if this system works, if they are pleased with the business we have done and it has all been generated by the 'Black Box' then anything less than promotion this year will be a failure.

    What I find strange is they speak as if the players we have signed will take us all the way to The Premiership on their long term contracts with age on their side however we all know in reality to compete in a league above you have to strengthen again to remain competitive.

    A lot of our players are average to good League One players at best, they may well struggle in the Championship.    


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    razil said:
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
    Rome wasn’t built in a day. What did you want them to do? Out everyone and then sign a whole new squad on four year deals? It will take two/three/four seasons to sort out the squad issues inherited but I’m sure they will get there.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    razil said:
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
    Where did they claim we wouldn't use loans, short contracts and sign free agents?
  • So Pelchen is an Aussie with a doctorate in Human Resources Analysis who worked at Chelsea for a couple of years.

    Aaron Barnes is a former player now at Dulwich doing some analysis alongside his non-league career.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    So Pelchen is an Aussie with a doctorate in Human Resources Analysis who worked at Chelsea for a couple of years.

    Aaron Barnes is a former player now at Dulwich doing some analysis alongside his non-league career.
    Barnes is at Welling! I win this round!! 
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited September 2021
    We can only wait and see if this system works, if they are pleased with the business we have done and it has all been generated by the 'Black Box' then anything less than promotion this year will be a failure.

    What I find strange is they speak as if the players we have signed will take us all the way to The Premiership on their long term contracts with age on their side however we all know in reality to compete in a league above you have to strengthen again to remain competitive.

    A lot of our players are average to good League One players at best, they may well struggle in the Championship.    


    Just as well we only have a few with contracts long enough to play in the PL in that dream scenario. 

    We have a good number due to end next season too. I think we'll see players leaving and *hopefully* being replaced with better year on year by default.

    We just have to hope that each time we're moving up a level.
  • Good PR and glad they're being more transparent about their processes than other set-ups in the past. 

    Proof is in the League Table though. Everything is just words until we start (or continue) winning. 
  • Football espionage moves on from the spy at the training ground. 

    Tech savvy agents could break into our black box, insiders could sell our data, our systems could be hacked, accessed remotely and compromised.  B)

    Even worse Dan Pelchen might get kidnapped and have tea cups thrown at him.  Once he cracks and reveals the secrets of our algorithm, we'll all be done for  :#

     


  • Also the honesty that we will sell players to raise money just as most clubs do.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    razil said:
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
    Barnie, are you only posting the shittest takes possible at the moment
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    Scoham said:
    razil said:
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
    Where did they claim we wouldn't use loans, short contracts and sign free agents?
    The strategy is not to (loans count as short contracts for a year or less)

    ‘In the recent past, with the previous ownerships, the strategy has been focused on free agents and/or players on a one year contract. That existence has been hand to mouth. It is one which wasn’t sustainable. ‘
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    edited September 2021
    People who don’t admit when things didn’t go quite to plan worry me,

    it’s pretty much back to pre Duchatelet hands off (when the club was in limbo), hardly a revelation 

    they even talking about selling players - hardly learning from the past, again better than Duchatelet limbo I suppose when players went for nothing

    so far a long way from equalling the spivs first window
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    LoOkOuT said:
    Just looked up Dan Pelchen on LinkedIn. Looks young, but he’s got great hair!






    Deserves a ‘lol’ but prefer to press the ‘would like to punch in the face’ button
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    razil said:
    Scoham said:
    razil said:
    So no loans, short contracts, free transfers… ok right. That might have been the intention but it certainly wasn’t the outcome, maybe address that?
    Where did they claim we wouldn't use loans, short contracts and sign free agents?
    The strategy is not to (loans count as short contracts for a year or less)

    ‘In the recent past, with the previous ownerships, the strategy has been focused on free agents and/or players on a one year contract. That existence has been hand to mouth. It is one which wasn’t sustainable. ‘
    And we have signed DJ, long term contract
    Kirk, long term contract
    Stockley, long term contract
    Levelle, long term contract
    MacGillivray, Clare, JFC and Dobson, 2 years
    We have an option on Famewo, I am assuming on a long term contract

    In two windows.  There was a suggestion we wanted to buy Leko, so we still might, that would be on a long term contract. 

    If we had 25 players on 4 year contracts and didn't go up everyone would be kicking off that we couldn't get rid of the useless feckers. 

  • Can’t we have one thread on this website that gets to page 2 before someone shits on the original post/link, even when it’s a superb open letter to the fans from the club!