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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
  • Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
    Can understand why it would annoy people, we've work hard for the little many earn and like to spend it at the Valley

    It almost feels like he doesnt give a shit about the game today (which is why I agree that its a dangerous move as there will be some who'll voice their displeasure on Social Media)... But then its surely better to move on from a bad performance as quickly as possible?

    Just take that Alex Gilbey interview this week where he discusses that he let his performances get in his head each week, ultimately making things worse for himself, rather than finding distractions like his daughter now.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
    Can understand why it would annoy people, we've work hard for the little many earn and like to spend it at the Valley

    It almost feels like he doesnt give a shit about the game today (which is why I agree that its a dangerous move as there will be some who'll voice their displeasure on Social Media)... But then its surely better to move on from a bad performance as quickly as possible?

    Just take that Alex Gilbey interview this week where he discusses that he let his performances get in his head each week, ultimately making things worse for himself, rather than finding distractions like his daughter now.
    Yeah point taken re' mental health. Just think a little bit of tact wouldn't go a miss
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited September 2021
    A few moments from his performance today stood out for me today.

    Albie tracking a Cheltenham player as they countered and ran with the ball into our half, and instead of standing him up, Albie goes to ground in some weak attempt at a tackle, leaving the guy free to run at our defenders with men over. 

    Albie on the edge of the box, daydreaming, not noticing his man has run beyond him, now free in the box to receive the pass and should have scored. 

    Albie charging headlessly to get a 'loose' ball, missing it completely, their man breaking into the huge gap behind and creating a chance.

    Is it harsh to say the defensive side of his game looks schoolboy level at times?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782
    edited September 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    Webbja77 said:
    He’s not good enough, simple. 
    Yet Adkins and Bowyer both see/saw enough in him to persist.
    Bowyer never rated his tactical awareness / nous / whatever you want to call it. Fans couldn’t understand that decision because he’s a gifted talent but I think we’re now seeing exactly what LB saw day in day out at Sparrows Lane.

    All his reservations were why LB usually stuck him out on a wing where it wouldn’t damage us too much if he got caught out. We’ve kept him around because his technical talent is undeniable. And we’ve been hoping he can learn the rest of the game as he gains experience.

    Unfortunately, he’s now at 78 senior appearances and he isn’t getting it. He is just a walking liability in the middle of the pitch. He needs to drop a couple of levels where his mistakes won’t be so often punished, learn the thinking side of the game and maybe he can grow into a role in the EFL later in his career when he’s a bit older.
  • Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
    Can understand why it would annoy people, we've work hard for the little many earn and like to spend it at the Valley

    It almost feels like he doesnt give a shit about the game today (which is why I agree that its a dangerous move as there will be some who'll voice their displeasure on Social Media)... But then its surely better to move on from a bad performance as quickly as possible?

    Just take that Alex Gilbey interview this week where he discusses that he let his performances get in his head each week, ultimately making things worse for himself, rather than finding distractions like his daughter now.
    Yeah point taken re' mental health. Just think a little bit of tact wouldn't go a miss
    Hope you dont think that the mental health comment was a dig mate

    Was just one example that suddenly sprang to mind when replying - Agree that the difference is Gilbey chose to do something that didnt leave him in the public eye so didnt have to put up with any extra potential hate
  • We’re in our worst footballing period in 90 years 
    players like him aren’t out of place in this shit show 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    I’d love Albie to do well but I’m worried I don’t have enough years left in me….hurry up Gilbert & Arter
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
    Can understand why it would annoy people, we've work hard for the little many earn and like to spend it at the Valley

    It almost feels like he doesnt give a shit about the game today (which is why I agree that its a dangerous move as there will be some who'll voice their displeasure on Social Media)... But then its surely better to move on from a bad performance as quickly as possible?

    Just take that Alex Gilbey interview this week where he discusses that he let his performances get in his head each week, ultimately making things worse for himself, rather than finding distractions like his daughter now.
    Yeah point taken re' mental health. Just think a little bit of tact wouldn't go a miss
    Hope you dont think that the mental health comment was a dig mate

    Was just one example that suddenly sprang to mind when replying - Agree that the difference is Gilbey chose to do something that didnt leave him in the public eye so didnt have to put up with any extra potential hate
    No not in the slightest mate. 👍
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Fumbluff said:
    I’d love Albie to do well but I’m worried I don’t have enough years left in me….hurry up Gilbert & Arter
    Who is Gilbert ?
    Clearly an autocorrect on Gilbert and Arthur :lol:

    Or it was obviously Gilbey.
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    I have always thought he had something about him and could kick on, but today he really showed some bad signs.  These clever balls he kept trying to play over the top, the long sprayed passes.  He needs to get the basics right in the first instance.  
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Not playing a simple ball to Souare on the left, while on the left as wanted to go blockbuster across to the right did not impress the coaching staff.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    AM Took to Insta about hour ago to say how proud he is of Zemura scoring for Bournemouth today. Appreciate that's really sweet and all that, but come on, have some of these players not got a filter ffs 
    Really brave of him to do that after a defeat.

    Doesnt mean that he should go home and sit at the wall to think about his performance

    But more the fact that a lot of people will be upset and that'll just fuel their displeasure
    Maybe it's just me (which wouldn't be unusual tbh), but shouldn't players take defeat really badly, or at least act like they do? I'd expect him to at least acknowledge how bad they were today before congratulating someone who is irrelevant to us at the moment. 
    Can understand why it would annoy people, we've work hard for the little many earn and like to spend it at the Valley

    It almost feels like he doesnt give a shit about the game today (which is why I agree that its a dangerous move as there will be some who'll voice their displeasure on Social Media)... But then its surely better to move on from a bad performance as quickly as possible?

    Just take that Alex Gilbey interview this week where he discusses that he let his performances get in his head each week, ultimately making things worse for himself, rather than finding distractions like his daughter now.
    Yeah point taken re' mental health. Just think a little bit of tact wouldn't go a miss
    Hope you dont think that the mental health comment was a dig mate

    Was just one example that suddenly sprang to mind when replying - Agree that the difference is Gilbey chose to do something that didnt leave him in the public eye so didnt have to put up with any extra potential hate
    5 years older and 5 years wiser it seems.

    I doubt Morgan does not care. It's a weird assumption that many make that footballers do not take defeats badly.

    I won't assume why he chose to message his mate on social media instead of a private message or text, but it's probably an age thing.  
  • Lay off the lad, he’s not playing great at the moment but who is, when he wasn’t in the team under Bowyer people were clamouring for him to be in the side.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    At least he looked for the ball in the second half and didn’t hide.  I think he gets a harder ride than many on here.  
  • wmcf123 said:
    At least he looked for the ball in the second half and didn’t hide.  I think he gets a harder ride than many on here.  
    I agree with you to an extent, but I do find myself getting frustrated with him when I’m at games, and it seems to be every game. I just don’t see the improvement in his game particularly since he broke into the first team. I really want him to do well but I never come out of game thinking Albie was class today, it’s usually average & this season poor. But no player has been great so far. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    wmcf123 said:
    At least he looked for the ball in the second half and didn’t hide.  I think he gets a harder ride than many on here.  
    I agree with you to an extent, but I do find myself getting frustrated with him when I’m at games, and it seems to be every game. I just don’t see the improvement in his game particularly since he broke into the first team. I really want him to do well but I never come out of game thinking Albie was class today, it’s usually average & this season poor. But no player has been great so far. 
    I agree that he’s been poor but so has almost everyone else .  Adkins has set us up to play no football and therefore it’s no wonder that a footballer won’t be playing well 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Adkins has publically come out and said we did not play the football we were supposed to today and instead resorted to hoof balls. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Dazzler21 said:
    Adkins has publically come out and said we did not play the football we were supposed to today and instead resorted to hoof balls. 
    The buck stops with him.  I’m so bored of him already 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited September 2021
    wmcf123 said:
    At least he looked for the ball in the second half and didn’t hide.  I think he gets a harder ride than many on here.  
    Who deserves a harder ride but doesn't get it?
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  • Far too slow and can’t tackle, not the main criteria for a central midfielder.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Adkins has publically come out and said we did not play the football we were supposed to today and instead resorted to hoof balls. 
    I feel like we've been doing that for most of the season though
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    wmcf123 said:
    At least he looked for the ball in the second half and didn’t hide.  I think he gets a harder ride than many on here.  
    There is a reason for this.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,000
    The whole team has zero identity and imo Morgan has the least. Can’t tackle, doesn’t score, hardly creates. 
    He’s one of our own, so I’m not throwing him on the scrap heap, but he more than any of them needs to sit out. Watch from the stands and take a step back. See how he can play in this team, then hopefully come back stronger.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,030
    Fumbluff said:
    I’d love Albie to do well but I’m worried I don’t have enough years left in me….hurry up Gilbert & Arter
    Who is Gilbert ?

  • Cant be easy for any of our midfielder that get on the ball and then seeing a team full of statues hiding. The whole first half it was constantly going back to famewo from midfield because there was no movement.

    Famewo then had a choice of playing it back to the keeper to hoof or just hoof it himself.
  • How many appearances has Morgan made for Charlton. Been in the first team for 4 years is it 100+ yet? 
    78-games now in all competitions
    Thanks. Most likely be 100+ end of the season. Out of contract in the summer. Unless we seem huge improvements in key areas, goal scoring, tackling, positioning etc. I would probably be inclined to let him leave on a free. Big season ahead for Morgan.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    How many appearances has Morgan made for Charlton. Been in the first team for 4 years is it 100+ yet? 
    78-games now in all competitions
    Thanks. Most likely be 100+ end of the season. Out of contract in the summer. Unless we seem huge improvements in key areas, goal scoring, tackling, positioning etc. I would probably be inclined to let him leave on a free. Big season ahead for Morgan.
    I’d defy anyone to look good in that team with those tactics 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    edited September 2021
    wmcf123 said:
    How many appearances has Morgan made for Charlton. Been in the first team for 4 years is it 100+ yet? 
    78-games now in all competitions
    Thanks. Most likely be 100+ end of the season. Out of contract in the summer. Unless we seem huge improvements in key areas, goal scoring, tackling, positioning etc. I would probably be inclined to let him leave on a free. Big season ahead for Morgan.
    I’d defy anyone to look good in that team with those tactics 
    There was a big moment in the first half when we had a counter attack. Kirk was one on one with the full back and Morgan under hit a pass from 30 yards or so (No one else was in their half, except those two).Any player should be 100% over hitting the pass and giving the full back a torrid time by having him to chase the winger on the turn. Morgan under hit in and they stopped the attack. One of the most frustrating moments from yesterday’s IMO. Alongside, DJ’s miss.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    I have no idea why, but he takes too long to decide where or who to pass to. That leaves him caught sometimes, but otherwise we lose impetus because the oppo’s defence have had time to write the book and then read the danger chapter again before it materialises. This is one of the biggest things that frustrate me around his game. Other than that please put Lee/Kirk on set pieces. One has come off in 6 games from recollection. Just not what we need right now.