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Adkins Out? - Match Thread

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  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    edited October 2021
    Got a horrible feeling he is not going anywhere. 

    If he dont go anywhere you have to wonder after sitting through that last night what TS sees to think Nigel can turn this arorund, he has lost the fans its getting toxic and we are sleep walking into league 2. 

    I am all for oweners not making snap sacking decsions but this will not change and cant continue. If TS does not act it raises questions as to why and concerns me. 

    I felt for Nigel last night, he looked beaten walking off, its no good for anywone to let this carry on. 




  • seth plum said:
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Pause at word number five.
    Yourself.
    Is he also trying to blame Jacko and Euell for not being supportive enough?
    'The people you're surrounded with'?
    If he means the fans, who travel in numbers to Wycombe, and Fleetwood, and Lincoln, who try hope against hope to back the team and any scant things that happen that are good, if Adkins is blaming the fans he is ridiculous.
    Nigel, revisit the word 'yourself', what have you found out, and what change flows from that?

    I don't think it is a blame game, more about the obvious turmoil in our management.  He is saying those around him are not supporting  him.  
    I only saw NA in the 'Technical Area' all night. Never saw Jacko or Jason. Much like Lincoln really until the end when Euell and he were consulting. 
    That’s unusual because another poster who sat behind the dug out was quiet clear on Euell and Jackson’s involvement in the technical area - and it was them arguing with our players. 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    Dismayed Adkins is still in post and what that says about our owner. 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    I dont pretend to be an expert but all season it has looked like our opposition have more players on the field. We are out numbered in all areas of the pitch all the time. As I keep saying whoever is insisting that our defence sits narrow and allows space out wide needs sacking, I dont know who would be dictating this set up but if it continues we are going to keep conceding the same type of goals all season. It is just getting so frustrating now watching us do the same thing and expecting a different outcome
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Looks like Keohane to me, which tallies with information that Sandgaard listens to him. Utterly ridiculous.
  • Just a hunch, but I think Adkins will be manager on Saturday. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Looks like Keohane to me, which tallies with information that Sandgaard listens to him. Utterly ridiculous.
    When you get advice on a subject you personally know fuck all about its impossible to know what's good advice and what's bad advice. 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,621
    edited October 2021
      
    Me coming to terms with the fact Adkins is going to be the Charlton Manager till the end of the season.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited October 2021
      
    Me coming to terms with the fact Adkins is going to be the Charlton Manager till the end of the season.
    Accurate, but for me it's that we're going to finish somewhere bottom half and that could include relegation. All depends on where the actual issue is. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited October 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Looks like Keohane to me, which tallies with information that Sandgaard listens to him. Utterly ridiculous.
    When you get advice on a subject you personally know fuck all about its impossible to know what's good advice and what's bad advice. 
    Never mind Adkins,  Burger Boy shouldn’t still be at the club, sex and travel is advice no one should be in doubt about 😏.
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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    1905 said:
    Got to go. Worst team since I have been supporting in 70s
    And that’s up against some pretty stiff competition 
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    Remember when people on here said "Give him until Christmas"?
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited October 2021
    Is there anyway I can edit this title to add "Please" or Now!!" to it?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    edited October 2021
    Leuth said:
    Bubble said:
    Playing Albie Morgan as a holding midfielder tonight was a sackable offence by itself 
    Tbh I'd feel more like sacking Morgan. He can't play AM and he can't play CM. He can't play
    He's a 7 a side Footy Addicts player. The kind who turns up at Archbishop's Park on a Sunday afternoon and absolutely murders everyone by seemingly having more time and space than everyone else and infinitely more control of the ball, and then after the game you find out from someone else he 'had trials'. Despite that you know that if he actually got asked to play in a real football league he'd get murdered. I've completely lost faith in his ability to play in anything above youth level, he just doesn't know what to do on a football pitch, and the odd brilliant pass isn't going to offset that
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I agree it looks like Keohane.
    Maybe Keohane is negotiating an even bigger eff off club car for his commute from Winchmore Hill.
    I have met and talked to Keohane and felt that his general ignorance knows no boundaries.
    If it is Keohane that has Sandgaard’s ear then we really are deeper in the mire than anybody can imagine.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379

    Gribbo said:
    This is sad I know but the first thing I did this morning after waking up was look on here to see if Adkins had been sacked.

    He hasn't and I am in complete and utter disbelief that he is still here. 
    I've been logging in every half hour through the night mate
    Mate, not even a chance for sleep over here (until shortly) it’s been a very long day for me. It took every last ounce of self discipline not to have a go at some of my lazy (non Charlton supporting) staff today. I was a powder keg. To bed to bed perchance to dream. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Amazing how last night the photo of TS sitting round the table in the boardroom felt like it was happening, but this morning it just looks like a photo of them just having an informal chat.

    TS having his Mrs there pretty much rules out it being a sacking or even a proper roasting as far as I'm concerned.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Has anyone told Sandgaard what Keohane is like? If they haven’t, how would he know?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Leuth said:
    Bubble said:
    Playing Albie Morgan as a holding midfielder tonight was a sackable offence by itself 
    Tbh I'd feel more like sacking Morgan. He can't play AM and he can't play CM. He can't play
    He's a 7 a side Footy Addicts player. The kind who turns up at Archibshop's Park on a Sunday afternoon and absolutely murders everyone by seemingly having more time and space than everyone else and infinitely more control of the ball, and then after the game you find out from someone else he 'had trials'. Despite that you know that if he actually got asked to play in a real football league he'd get murdered. I've completely lost faith in his ability to play in anything above youth level, he just doesn't know what to do on a foobtall pitch, and the odd brilliant pass isn't going to offset that
    I have seen him have a handful of good games in 4 seasons.  1 was the first time I had ever seen him at Donny.   He will be 29 and people will still be asking the question. 
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  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,406
    As Sandgaard was there last night to watch the whole shit show, he can be in no doubt how serious the problems are and also the strength of feeling among the supporters.  If he dismisses these as teething problems, doesn't grasp something is very wrong, and heads back to the USA without doing anything then we are in far more trouble than any of us feared.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Gribbo said:
    Amazing how last night the photo of TS sitting round the table in the boardroom felt like it was happening, but this morning it just looks like a photo of them just having an informal chat.

    TS having his Mrs there pretty much rules out it being a sacking or even a proper roasting as far as I'm concerned.
    they're probably just having a game of Bezzerwizzer
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    Has Adkins resigned from any of his previous jobs or does he always hold on till the bitter end for a pay off? 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    edited October 2021
    Has Adkins resigned from any of his previous jobs or does he always hold on till the bitter end for a pay off? 
    He left Hull if I remember rightly but it was the enough of his contract so no pay off.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Leuth said:
    Bubble said:
    Playing Albie Morgan as a holding midfielder tonight was a sackable offence by itself 
    Tbh I'd feel more like sacking Morgan. He can't play AM and he can't play CM. He can't play
    He's a 7 a side Footy Addicts player. The kind who turns up at Archibshop's Park on a Sunday afternoon and absolutely murders everyone by seemingly having more time and space than everyone else and infinitely more control of the ball, and then after the game you find out from someone else he 'had trials'. Despite that you know that if he actually got asked to play in a real football league he'd get murdered. I've completely lost faith in his ability to play in anything above youth level, he just doesn't know what to do on a foobtall pitch, and the odd brilliant pass isn't going to offset that
    I kept looking for positives in his game. Last night for the second was it, he actually did something good - had Matthews been the Right back, he came across to stop the winger cutting back onto Gunter's left, but in doing so lost his man in the middle as no one covered his man. 

    That was the only decent takeaway last night... 

    I give up. 
  • Scoham said:
    Do we have no imagination? There are talented young managers and coaches out there who would see the job as a step up and could improve us. There are clubs with much smaller budgets playing much better football than us.

    It worked out for Taylor but not so well for Keegan at Newcastle or Dalglish at Liverpool.
    If we were comfortable in mid table I might agree with you. But I'd argue that now isn't the time for taking a huge risk in a talented young manager.
    We have no base to build upon, everything has turned to shit.
    We need someone to come in and instantly give the whole place a massive lift.
    We need someone who can galvanize the fans with the players, and the players need someone to respect and respond to.
    We need round pegs in round holes, grind out some results, then start thinking about pretty football again.
    IMO, Curbs is exactly what's needed at this moment in time, even if it's just until the end of the season.
    Results breed confidence, confidence makes good players, very good players.
    Right now, results mean that every player looks awful, even Wales most capped international!
    I'm pretty sure Curbs would go 442, and blokes like Pearce and Purrington would be put straight back in the side 
    It might not be pretty, but neither is a relegation battle.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    90. Cologne becomes the capital of Germania Inferior.
  • Dazzler21 said:
      
    Me coming to terms with the fact Adkins is going to be the Charlton Manager till the end of the season.
    Accurate, but for me it's that we're going to finish somewhere bottom half and that could include relegation. All depends on where the actual issue is. 

    If he does better with his own staff why haven’t they brought them in (at least some of them) as maybe what he is lacking is experienced staff members.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    What about the idea that Sandgaard is in the UK to meet possible candidates and will sack NA off before the weekend, once he's met them all?


  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Gribbo said:
    What about the idea that Sandgaard is in the UK to meet possible candidates and will suck NA off before the weekend, once he's met them all?


    give him something to remember him by?
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