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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Nothing to say, but it's OK.......... Good Morning .....Good Morning.....Good Morning0
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Nope, telecoms.Maccn05 said:
$4.9m PA unbelievable how much these people earn. I assume this is in the banking world?Ormiston_Addick said:As someone who has been “in the room” when CEO level people are leaving a business I have to say that these things can take time to nut out.
Adkins will have a contract in place obviously but there is a good chance that his agent will also now be angling for odds and sods as part of a termination deal.
The likes of @bobmunro will be well versed in these HR matters but it can often come down to things like when a termination payment is made.
I worked for a CEO here that negotiated a deal where his last day at the company was July 2nd - this enabled him to save a fortune in tax on his $2 million severance payment - his base salary was $4.9 million.
I sit here thinking I’m doing ok for myself then read that, oh well! I’d be retired in a year ☺️
By putting his resignation to July 2nd (new tax year) he saved himself a fortune in tax.
Absolute piss take but all the corporate types pull these sort of stunts and boards let them run with it.1 -
Maccn05 said:
$4.9m PA unbelievable how much these people earn. I assume this is in the banking world?Ormiston_Addick said:As someone who has been “in the room” when CEO level people are leaving a business I have to say that these things can take time to nut out.
Adkins will have a contract in place obviously but there is a good chance that his agent will also now be angling for odds and sods as part of a termination deal.
The likes of @bobmunro will be well versed in these HR matters but it can often come down to things like when a termination payment is made.
I worked for a CEO here that negotiated a deal where his last day at the company was July 2nd - this enabled him to save a fortune in tax on his $2 million severance payment - his base salary was $4.9 million.
I sit here thinking I’m doing ok for myself then read that, oh well! I’d be retired in a year ☺️I sit here as a retired Carer, who earned less than £10.00 an hour, and wonder how many people on earth have to suffer poverty, hunger, deprivation, suffering and death to enable the select few to "earn"such a good salary milking the system. Their wealth is built on misery. Enough is enough. I have enough, that is sufficient, and frankly, now retired, have quite had enough of this failed and greedy capitalism. Thanks for destroying the planet.7 -
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To be honest we could have Clough, Shankley and Fergie in the dugout of Sunderland and the result would probably be the same.shirty5 said:The longer Sandgaard leaves Adkins in charge, the worse it will get. If he is charge on Saturday and we lose up at Sunderland we could be 7 points adrift in the relegation places. Now is not the time for waiting. Announce he has gone first thing tomorrow morning and we can move forward on from a manager that has been tactically naive this season3 -
Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?6
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NoCH4RLTON said:Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?12 -
It might not smell very nice thoughCafc43v3r said:
To be honest we could have Clough, Shankley and Fergie in the dugout of Sunderland and the result would probably be the same.shirty5 said:The longer Sandgaard leaves Adkins in charge, the worse it will get. If he is charge on Saturday and we lose up at Sunderland we could be 7 points adrift in the relegation places. Now is not the time for waiting. Announce he has gone first thing tomorrow morning and we can move forward on from a manager that has been tactically naive this season
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Dick Tydeman has GONE??????captainbob said:I messaged the club tonight as I was getting impatient about hearing nothing - and they emailed me this:
'We met in the boardroom last night to discuss a replacement for Dick Tydeman. We urge our fans to be patient just a little bit longer.'0 - Sponsored links:
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Not me. I really don’t get the desire for brown. He has had two non league managerial jobs and two sackings. At least Adkins is failing in the professional leaguesCH4RLTON said:Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?8 -
I think because there’s no outright denial and public backing, along with “no statement on Adkins tonight”, I think sandgaard and co want to announce his replacement before announcing his sacking.4
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Talks a good game though.Todds_right_hook said:
Not me. I really don’t get the desire for brown. He has had two non league managerial jobs and two sackings. At least Adkins is failing in the professional leaguesCH4RLTON said:Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?
Bit like the bloke up the pub 2 -
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40 minutes time, no ifs, no buts1
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Based on how it’s unraveled, it’s quite viable that TS wouldn’t even know where to start re: a replacement. I get the feeling that he was certain NA would do the business and is still in a state of shock about how badly it’s gone. This, coupled with his general positive attitude has probably left him reeling a bit.This is why I think giving Jackson and Euell a go on either a caretaker basis or till the end of the season wouldn’t be a bad idea. A lot of posts have been about a total clear out, but that’s never going to happen in a million years. Additionally, a lot of posts have said the squad/team whatever are better than where we are. If that’s a general consensus (which I think it is), then why wouldn’t Jackson & Euell be given the job?
I have no clue as to Jackson’s long term potential, but in all the way he carries himself and his experience in the game, the fact he sees the players everyday in training and is respected, that ticks a lot of boxes for me.
people make the point he’s the defensive coach and granted, our defending has been abysmal, but I believe that’s in a large part to the likes of Gunter and Matthews going through the motions. There was some sort of player in Famewo last year, and Lavelle may come good (I have my doubts about them as a partnership). However, we just don’t know how much of the poor performances are down to players not giving a crap or limited ability.15 -
The “delay” makes me think it might be a clear out. Jacko, Euall et al to go too. Taken a full day to sort it all out. Just guessing.3
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No way ….AdTheAddicK said:
NoCH4RLTON said:Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?0 -
Several valued posters on here said yesterday that he'd gone.
I think we'll get an announcement early today.
No way he'll still be in charge on Saturday1 - Sponsored links:
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If he has gone we are getting a battling point away at Sunderland, nailed on. Money going on it.
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I think that's likely 👍kentaddick said:I think because there’s no outright denial and public backing, along with “no statement on Adkins tonight”, I think sandgaard and co want to announce his replacement before announcing his sacking.0 -
Is Laudrop still an option? (Anyone of them will do, Michael Brian, Agnitha)
very fitting name. If we have to get relegated, we may as well go down with a bang0 -
Adkinswatch - his car is in the training ground car park2
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But I don't think he's shown anything to show he could actually solve it. His own record is far from stellar.Crusty54 said:
My thoughts yesterday. Brownie has identified a lot of the defensive problems.CH4RLTON said:Who’d love to see Curbs and Brownie in the dugout vs Sunderland on Saturday?
His comments are accurate but I think most people could spot the issues he did, that does not mean that just anyone could take the job.1 -
Or there's just a lot of headless chickens not knowing what to do and protecting their own backs. I don't recall any 'management' statement about Adkins at all, all season, and don't expect one if he isn't sacked.kentaddick said:I think because there’s no outright denial and public backing, along with “no statement on Adkins tonight”, I think sandgaard and co want to announce his replacement before announcing his sacking.
It all really boils down to how much of it is Adkins fault, or more importantly how much TS believes is Adkins fault.
If it's decided that the main issue has been poor recruitment then you've got a committee to blame (including TS himself).
If it's decided that the whole playing set up is wrong then it could fall on Roddy if Adkins is simply implementing his ideas.
If it's decided that Adkins simply hasn't got the best out of what he has, despite having full autonomy then his head roles....
There are a lot of variables, for me it's who has been the driving force of the structure, playing style, recruitment etc and I'm yet to be convinced that falls wholly onto Adkins.
Many have been very quick to put all the blame on Adkins and to a lesser extent JJ and Euell, but none of us truly know under what circumstances and authority they are operating under. I've absolutely no inside information but just fail to believe Adkins who was a decent enough manager has suddenly lost the plot as it would, externally, appear. He's not a fool in footballing circles.
Add to that, it is believed from what we've heard that post games TS refers to Gallen & Roddy, another reason that it makes me believe Adkins doesn't have the autonomy a manager should.
If we see Adkins, and Adkins only sacked then clearly TS believes it all lays at his door (whether true or not), if others go as well then maybe the problem isn't just Adkins. If Adkins doesn't go then clearly the belief is he's doing the best with the cards he's been dealt.
I personally believe there's a lot more to all of this and where we find ourselves than Adkins being an awful manager with the tactics of a goldfish.6 -
I would not bet on it.Gravesend_Addick said:Several valued posters on here said yesterday that he'd gone.
I think we'll get an announcement early today.
No way he'll still be in charge on Saturday1
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