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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    My opinion is to advertise the job formally, and see who applies.
    Don’t put out feelers and beg  ask anybody, look for somebody who wants it.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    I hope this isn't an audition for Jackson and he's merely filling in till a new manager is appointed.

    I have no problem with JJ or JE staying on as long as that is in addition to the new manager bringing in his own people.

     
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,104
    edited October 2021
    I'm a pretty tolerant sort of guy. I gave him a chance even though he wasn't my first choice at the time. And to be fair he did well last season given the circumstances. But after most of the performances this season, he'd lost me. Just couldn't get behind him. His tactics were just naive and he persisted with this 433 formation when everyone could see it just didn't work. Letting him go is the right decision and gives us an opportunity for a mid-table position or better (Wishful thinking). He's a nice bloke and I wish him all the best. Is Jacko the right man for the job ... Hmmn. Let's just ponder that thought
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Wish him well.  Horrible situation all round, but it was never going to work and it would've gotten more acrimonious as the weeks went by.  

    Big statement of intent needed from the players now, and I am expecting them to step up massively if playing for NA has been the problem.  They owe us for the level of crap they've produced over the last 13 games and there's nowhere left for them to hide now
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    C'mon Jacko - time to prove the doubters wrong.


  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Yes Jacko. Time to shut up the naysayers.

    Johnnie Jackson’s Red Army!
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,889
    kentaddick said:
    Jacko’s time to shine. Have a feeling we’ll be seeing a very different side on Saturday…
    It feels like we see a different team every game   :)
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Do yourself a favour, Jacko.

    Get on the phone to Curbs and ask where he thinks we've been going wrong.
    You know, he'll tell it as he sees it.

    An experienced outside view could be helpful.



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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    I would be delighted if it works for Jacko, the transition from captain to manager would be great, and he’s a smart cookie who I think has a idea of how he would like to get the team playing. Fingers crossed it works 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    my concern is how long do we give JJ to try and sort this out and if in the short term he can't then will it be too late to save our season for anyone permanently coming in. Let's forget Sunderland results wise, although hoping for a much improved performance, we then have two homes games in four days. If we fail to win one of those is that it for him? Harsh maybe but if that happens we will really be deep in the brown stuff by then. Obviously I hope he wins both.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    seth plum said:
    My opinion is to advertise the job formally, and see who applies.
    Don’t put out feelers and beg  ask anybody, look for somebody who wants it.
    This
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Elthamaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
    Pretty sure it would be short lived, and we'd be in the same situation come this time next year
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Go on Jacko 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Elthamaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
    I said "get a couple of points on the board" meaning any slight improvement will see JJ get the job. I doubt anyone at The Valley today is working on a spread sheet of possible managers.

    This season id dead and gone, avoiding relegation is the only target now, if JJ achieves that Tommy will see it as saving a few quid. 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Gribbo said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
    Pretty sure it would be short lived, and we'd be in the same situation come this time next year
    why though? - interested as to what makes you think that way?? - Euell is good enough to work in the England set up but not good enough for League 1?
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    Gribbo said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
    Pretty sure it would be short lived, and we'd be in the same situation come this time next year
    Pretty sure Jacko has more coaching experience than Bowyer did when he took over 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Elthamaddick said:
    C'mon Jacko - time to prove the doubters wrong.


    According to the OS Jackson was caretaker for the Bristol Rovers match last March before Adkins came in. 

    That was the last time that we came from behind to win. 2-0 down we won 3-2.

    At least Jacko knows how to do a Golfie  !!!
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    Johnnie Jackson's red & white army does have a ring to it. 
    Good luck Nigel, shame it didn't work out. I hope he gets himself a good job elsewhere. 
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Elthamaddick said:
    Gribbo said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Gribbo said:
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    TEL said:
    It's been pretty obvious for a good 2-3 weeks his job was untenable. Rarely does anyone come back from being openly castigated by the fans. Wish him well, I'm sure the pay off will soften the blow. 

    Wilder please Mr Sandgaard 
    1,000,000% never gonna happen. If Wilder is your expectation then you will be let down on a biblical scale. You might well ask Sangaard for Bill Shankley.
    Not saying it will be Wilder, but would love it to be a big name that everyone is happy with and exceeds all expectations, just so people who are so confident with their predictions get egg in the face.
    If JJ & JE improve things and we get a couple of points on the board I suspect Thomas will take the cheap option and appoint them full time.
    if they do improve things and we start winning then why on earth wouldn't/shouldn't they get the job?
    Pretty sure it would be short lived, and we'd be in the same situation come this time next year
    why though? - interested as to what makes you think that way?? - Euell is good enough to work in the England set up but not good enough for League 1?
    People seem to have a downer on the whole club at the moment, yes the football has been shit, but things seem to elsewhere to be going in the right direction.


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited October 2021
    Sunderland is a free hit. Not expecting a result but anything resembling a performance with some effort will be a bonus. 

    Next few games afterwards:

    Doncaster (H)

    FA Cup
    Pizza trophy

    Burton (A)
    Plymouth (H)

    I imagine the plan is to appoint someone for the Burton game. 
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722
    Dazzler21 said:
    Where's @flyingkiwiDK @VFR4life @DubaiCAFC with their inside tracks too?!
    No inside tracks from me I’m afraid but I was just talking to a Charlton supporting mate of mine about what odds we might get on Michael Laudrup as our new Manager. He’s been out of football a long time though. 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,353
    Wish NA well in the future, just didn't work out. 
  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,914
    I love Jacko but is it really time to bring in an experienced Manager to turn things around as apposed to a inexperienced manager?
    The club is crying out for a Wilder or even a Warnock type manager (not that I’d want him here) but we are desperate to move on and up. With Jacko, I am sure we’d get the “new manager bounce” but could he sustain it? Personally I have my doubts 
  • BFG94
    BFG94 Posts: 457
    Don’t like to see anyone sacked but there was no real option in this case. NA seemed a nice enough bloke but it just didn’t work out. Wish him all the best for the future. 
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    Would like to have seen Jackson and euell supported some way officially by curbs and peacock- that surely would have been a great learning experience
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    edited October 2021
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Be interesting to see what team/set up JJ opts for.  We'll know if the 4-2-3-1 was an issue if JJ changes it 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    The Red Robin said:
    Sunderland is a free hit. Not expecting a result but anything resembling a performance with some effort will be a bonus. 

    Next few games afterwards:

    Doncaster (H)

    FA Cup
    Pizza trophy

    Burton (A)
    Plymouth (H)

    I imagine the plan is to appoint someone for the Burton game. 
    we are home to Rotherham four days after Donny Rovers.
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