The Ashes 2021/22

Chizz said:

Addick Addict said:

Andyessgee90 said:

Ponting going in on the officials and he has a point. Stokes first FOUR deliveries before the wicket taking ball to Warner were no balls. Not a single one was called and the 3rd umpire responsible for checking didn’t tell the infield umpire to tell Ben to watch his front foot. 

You can say a bowler shouldn’t be bowling no-balls which is fair but, for someone who’s been out of the game for a period of time, desperate to make a breakthrough and known for pushing himself to the absolute limit, the umpires have a duty to give him that information. 

In terms of performance I feel that yesterday went as well as we could have hoped for up until the last hour. The extended days play for a reduced bowling attack suffering with fitness and injury problems, Australia could take advantage of that late in the day. Obviously the dropped catch and missed run outs are things that could have been the difference between a lead of 120 odd or 250 but it just shows you have to be absolutely flawless when playing Ashes cricket and I think our current group just aren’t experienced, technically able or (barring a couple) fully understand playing test cricket. 

It’s obviously a lot easier to sit and say what I think they should do compared to them facing 90mph hostile bowling from Hazwelwood, Cummins and Starc but I just don’t feel like any of our batsmen other than Root and Stokes have the patience, ability or frame of mind to just stick around ignoring the score for an hour and just properly getting themselves in like Labuschagne did. 

Tonight might be the first night I don’t watch the entire days play. If we are 50/4 again at lunch then I’ll probably write this one off and watch the NFL before going to sleep. 

As you say this is so wrong on so many counts. Stokes shouldn't be getting his run up so wrong from the off right up until he is corrected. He has been bowling in the nets AND practice games. If the standing Umpire isn't calling them then the 3rd Umpire has to call it each and every time. Sides are missing out on runs and a bowler like Stokes doesn't know he's doing it until he's called for it only because a wicket has fallen.

There's an issue with the video relay to the third umpire.  Normally, every delivery can be checked in real time and then reviewed immediately afterwards, on request from the third umpire.  Those requests and the immediate replays were not available at the start of this match, so the Umpires agreed, between them, that the standing umpires would call the no-balls and only those that resulted in wickets would (and could) be reviewed.  

The third umpire calling every no ball was not an option.  So, we don't know how many no balls either side have bowled that have been missed in this match.  But we do know of one, very expensive one.  

It's 100% Stokes's fault.  

killerandflash said:

Chizz said:

Addick Addict said:

Andyessgee90 said:

Ponting going in on the officials and he has a point. Stokes first FOUR deliveries before the wicket taking ball to Warner were no balls. Not a single one was called and the 3rd umpire responsible for checking didn’t tell the infield umpire to tell Ben to watch his front foot. 

You can say a bowler shouldn’t be bowling no-balls which is fair but, for someone who’s been out of the game for a period of time, desperate to make a breakthrough and known for pushing himself to the absolute limit, the umpires have a duty to give him that information. 

In terms of performance I feel that yesterday went as well as we could have hoped for up until the last hour. The extended days play for a reduced bowling attack suffering with fitness and injury problems, Australia could take advantage of that late in the day. Obviously the dropped catch and missed run outs are things that could have been the difference between a lead of 120 odd or 250 but it just shows you have to be absolutely flawless when playing Ashes cricket and I think our current group just aren’t experienced, technically able or (barring a couple) fully understand playing test cricket. 

It’s obviously a lot easier to sit and say what I think they should do compared to them facing 90mph hostile bowling from Hazwelwood, Cummins and Starc but I just don’t feel like any of our batsmen other than Root and Stokes have the patience, ability or frame of mind to just stick around ignoring the score for an hour and just properly getting themselves in like Labuschagne did. 

Tonight might be the first night I don’t watch the entire days play. If we are 50/4 again at lunch then I’ll probably write this one off and watch the NFL before going to sleep. 

As you say this is so wrong on so many counts. Stokes shouldn't be getting his run up so wrong from the off right up until he is corrected. He has been bowling in the nets AND practice games. If the standing Umpire isn't calling them then the 3rd Umpire has to call it each and every time. Sides are missing out on runs and a bowler like Stokes doesn't know he's doing it until he's called for it only because a wicket has fallen.

There's an issue with the video relay to the third umpire.  Normally, every delivery can be checked in real time and then reviewed immediately afterwards, on request from the third umpire.  Those requests and the immediate replays were not available at the start of this match, so the Umpires agreed, between them, that the standing umpires would call the no-balls and only those that resulted in wickets would (and could) be reviewed.  

The third umpire calling every no ball was not an option.  So, we don't know how many no balls either side have bowled that have been missed in this match.  But we do know of one, very expensive one.  

It's 100% Stokes's fault.  

Why isn't the video replay system working? This isn't some outground in a developing country

Andyessgee90 said:

Chizz said:

killerandflash said:

Chizz said:

Addick Addict said:

Andyessgee90 said:

Ponting going in on the officials and he has a point. Stokes first FOUR deliveries before the wicket taking ball to Warner were no balls. Not a single one was called and the 3rd umpire responsible for checking didn’t tell the infield umpire to tell Ben to watch his front foot. 

You can say a bowler shouldn’t be bowling no-balls which is fair but, for someone who’s been out of the game for a period of time, desperate to make a breakthrough and known for pushing himself to the absolute limit, the umpires have a duty to give him that information. 

In terms of performance I feel that yesterday went as well as we could have hoped for up until the last hour. The extended days play for a reduced bowling attack suffering with fitness and injury problems, Australia could take advantage of that late in the day. Obviously the dropped catch and missed run outs are things that could have been the difference between a lead of 120 odd or 250 but it just shows you have to be absolutely flawless when playing Ashes cricket and I think our current group just aren’t experienced, technically able or (barring a couple) fully understand playing test cricket. 

It’s obviously a lot easier to sit and say what I think they should do compared to them facing 90mph hostile bowling from Hazwelwood, Cummins and Starc but I just don’t feel like any of our batsmen other than Root and Stokes have the patience, ability or frame of mind to just stick around ignoring the score for an hour and just properly getting themselves in like Labuschagne did. 

Tonight might be the first night I don’t watch the entire days play. If we are 50/4 again at lunch then I’ll probably write this one off and watch the NFL before going to sleep. 

As you say this is so wrong on so many counts. Stokes shouldn't be getting his run up so wrong from the off right up until he is corrected. He has been bowling in the nets AND practice games. If the standing Umpire isn't calling them then the 3rd Umpire has to call it each and every time. Sides are missing out on runs and a bowler like Stokes doesn't know he's doing it until he's called for it only because a wicket has fallen.

There's an issue with the video relay to the third umpire.  Normally, every delivery can be checked in real time and then reviewed immediately afterwards, on request from the third umpire.  Those requests and the immediate replays were not available at the start of this match, so the Umpires agreed, between them, that the standing umpires would call the no-balls and only those that resulted in wickets would (and could) be reviewed.  

The third umpire calling every no ball was not an option.  So, we don't know how many no balls either side have bowled that have been missed in this match.  But we do know of one, very expensive one.  

It's 100% Stokes's fault.  

Why isn't the video replay system working? This isn't some outground in a developing country

'Technological issue', expected to be fixed in time for the second test.  Both teams were aware.  England should have had a spotter, with binoculars.  That they didn't confirms that it's 100% down to Stokes to put his feet in the right place. 

The technological issue is with snicko, not the video replay system. COVID restrictions prevented maintenance coming to fix it. Agree they should have had a spotter but it’s still on the umpire to advise when the bowler is getting close to or overstepping. Rumour is they missed something like 15 no balls in Stokes bowling. 

superclive98 said:

Playing one day shots.